• ROT: Aurora (Northern Lights), Scotland, 2026-01-19

    From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to alt.photography,uk.tech.digital-tv on Sat Feb 14 11:50:38 2026
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    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of the spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 14 12:08:42 2026
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    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of the spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    Some working links might helprCa
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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 14 12:26:07 2026
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    On 2026-02-14 12:08, Spike wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of the
    spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    Some working links might helprCa

    They work for me in TB/FF.
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 14 12:43:25 2026
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    On 14/02/2026 12:26, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-14 12:08, Spike wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of the >>> spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    Some working links might helprCa

    They work for me in TB/FF.

    +1

    Great photos.

    Even when the aurora makes it down south, we always seem to have cloud! :-(
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.photography,uk.tech.digital-tv on Sat Feb 14 13:09:35 2026
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    Java Jive wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of the spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    How do they look to the eye vs the camera?


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  • From Indy Jess John@bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com to alt.photography,uk.tech.digital-tv on Sat Feb 14 15:07:36 2026
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    On 14/02/2026 11:50, Java Jive wrote:
    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of the spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg> <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    If anyone is interested, the red colour is produced by high energy rays
    from the sun hitting the atmosphere, and the green colour is produced by
    lower energy rays from the sun.

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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to alt.photography,uk.tech.digital-tv on Sat Feb 14 15:15:36 2026
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    On 2026-02-14 13:09, Andy Burns wrote:

    Java Jive wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of
    the spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    How do they look to the eye vs the camera?

    One of the few occasions when the eye could see pretty much as well as
    the camera, easily and certainly the best I've ever seen personally, as opposed to other peoples' photos, and I can't remember many of those
    that were as good. Although normally I have the University Of Lancaster
    app running on my phone, on this occasion I'd disabled its notifications
    for fear of potentially disturbing my cousin, with whom I was staying,
    in the middle of the night, so I wasn't aware of the aurora until his
    son rang us about it, because he'd seen it from the back of his house.
    By contrast, what normally happens is that the phone notifies me, and I
    take it out to the back window of my house to see if there is sufficient
    clear sky to see anything, which often of course there isn't, but even
    when there is, usually I can only see a vague smear in the sky, which
    the phone's photos show to be green.
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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 14 21:07:48 2026
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    On 14/02/2026 12:43, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 14/02/2026 12:26, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-14 12:08, Spike wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of
    the
    spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    Some working links might helprCa

    They work for me in TB/FF.

    +1

    And for me. If I copy-and-paste the URLs (*), they also open in Opera,
    Google Chrome and MS Edge.

    (*) My default browser is set to FF, so that's what opens when I click
    on one of the links.


    Great photos.

    Even when the aurora makes it down south, we always seem to have cloud! :-(


    I've only seen an aurora once in my life, and that was a couple of years
    ago, and even long exposures of a few minutes on a tripod didn't give
    such intense colours as the ones that JJ has posted. That was in East Yorkshire. With the naked eye, I could just make out very faint colours
    after spending half an hour outside for my eyes to get dark-adjusted. My
    wife (before I met her) saw an aurora down south in Berkshire which had
    vivid colours that were visible with the naked eye. But yes, periods of
    high activity on the Lancaster app invariably correspond with dense
    cloud and/or heavy rain :-(

    The aurora must have been very bright to get such vivid bright colours
    with exposures as short as 1/4 second at f2, even though the image info
    claims that you camera was using ISO 14046 ;-) I think my exposures were
    about 5 mins at f4 at ISO 3200 (the fastest that my camera will do).

    I discovered a very annoying thing about the lens on my camera. It
    focuses "beyond infinity"... I knew that the light was far too faint for
    auto focus to work, so I disabled it and turned the focussing ring to
    the infinity setting. Long exposures showed that everything was blurred.
    I was prepared for stars to be short sharp tracks rather than points
    because of the earth's rotation, but not for them to be blurred. I had
    to focus manually on the furthest bright object (a neighbour's outside
    light) and then take care not to jog the focus ring. In normal light, autofocus or manual focussing avoids the problem; I'd never before
    turned the ring hard against the infinity end-stop and expected distant objects to be in focus.

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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 14 21:25:01 2026
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    On 14/02/2026 21:07, NY wrote:
    I've only seen an aurora once in my life, and that was a couple of years ago, and even long exposures of a few minutes on a tripod didn't give
    such intense colours as the ones that JJ has posted.

    I wonder whether what I saw was a true aurora because that is usually
    low in the sky (like your examples), facing vaguely north, whereas what
    I saw was very high in the sky (*). Good thing it wasn't low in the
    north sky because there is a street light outside our house on the
    northern side, and a floodlit church beyond that. Elsewhere, the sky is
    pretty dark - just two small towns roughly east and south west of us
    about 5 miles away, and otherwise small villages - so not *too* many
    street lights.


    (*) I had to lie on my back on the patio underneath my camera to point
    it upwards at about 70-80 degrees from the horizon, roughly in the
    direction of the brightest coloured blobs: the image was too faint to
    see through the viewfinder.
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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 14 22:34:02 2026
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    On 2026-02-14 21:07, NY wrote:

    The aurora must have been very bright to get such vivid bright colours
    with exposures as short as 1/4 second at f2, even though the image info claims that you camera was using ISO 14046 Efye I think my exposures were about 5 mins at f4 at ISO 3200 (the fastest that my camera will do).

    It was certainly very bright, but I don't believe the exposure was as
    short as 1/4s. The phone used was my Pixel 8a, and when photographing
    these things with it, the usual exposure is from 1 to 3s, and I have to
    brace it against something to keep it steady enough to get an unblurred
    image. My recollection is that this was the case here as well, and that
    the exposures were 1-1.5s, so I suspect that the phone has recorded the exposure wrong.
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 14 23:00:38 2026
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    NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    On 14/02/2026 12:43, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 14/02/2026 12:26, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-14 12:08, Spike wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of >>>>> the
    spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    Some working links might helprCa

    They work for me in TB/FF.

    +1

    And for me. If I copy-and-paste the URLs (*), they also open in Opera, Google Chrome and MS Edge.

    (*) My default browser is set to FF, so that's what opens when I click
    on one of the links.

    Sorry, chaps, but a URL starts with the scheme, such as https: while
    something beginning with www. is a hostname, commonly referred to as a www subdomain or a www web address. A link would be a URL, but a hostname
    isnrCOt.
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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sun Feb 15 00:51:16 2026
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    On 2026-02-14 23:00, Spike wrote:
    NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    On 14/02/2026 12:43, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 14/02/2026 12:26, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-14 12:08, Spike wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures of >>>>>> the
    spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    Some working links might helprCa

    They work for me in TB/FF.

    +1

    And for me. If I copy-and-paste the URLs (*), they also open in Opera,
    Google Chrome and MS Edge.

    (*) My default browser is set to FF, so that's what opens when I click
    on one of the links.

    Sorry, chaps, but a URL starts with the scheme, such as https:

    Well, if you must be pedantic, the correct term is a 'protocol'.

    while
    something beginning with www. is a hostname, commonly referred to as a www subdomain or a www web address.

    Which, with modern browsers, is enough, because they choose the
    protocol, usually by default as 'https' but that may be configurable by
    the user somewhere amongst the more obscure settings. Any which way, as you've seen, everyone else can load the images perfectly well.

    A link would be a URL, but a hostname
    isnrCOt.

    Whatever, it's your problem, not mine.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sun Feb 15 08:31:06 2026
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    Java Jive wrote:

    I don't believe the exposure was as short as 1/4s.-a The phone used was
    my Pixel 8a, and when photographing these things with it, the usual
    exposure is from 1 to 3s, and I have to brace it against something to
    keep it steady enough to get an unblurred image.

    Did you try "night sight" mode?
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sun Feb 15 08:47:03 2026
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    On 15/02/2026 00:51, Java Jive wrote:
    ubdomain or a www web address.

    Which, with modern browsers, is enough, because they choose the
    protocol, usually by default as 'https' but that may be configurable by
    the user somewhere amongst the more obscure settings. Any which way, as you've seen, everyone else can load the images perfectly well.

    Getting off the thread now, but I see that Firefox omits the https:// in
    the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing that, but it seems
    strange that some websites now have very short domain names. For example imgbb.com in Fx becomes https://imgbb.com in Vivaldi (although it can be shortened to imgbb.com by changing one of Vivaldi's prefs. I'm not sure
    if the URL can be expanded to include the https:// in Fx).
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sun Feb 15 10:44:05 2026
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    On 15/02/2026 08:54, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jeff Layman wrote:

    I see that Firefox omits the https:// in the address bar.

    If you want them back, toggle "browser.urlbar.trimURLs" in about:config

    Thanks. It wasn't obvious in the Settings, and there were so many prefs
    with "urlbar"... I gave up. What seems strange is that from: <https://www.ghacks.net/2023/09/19/firefox-119-will-launch-with-an-important-address-bar-change/>
    it notes:

    "Mozilla plans to launch the change in Firefox 119. A number of
    about:config preferences define the browser's behavior:

    browser.urlbar.trimHttps -- defines if Firefox displays (FALSE) or hides (TRUE) the https:// protocol."

    So did browser.urlbar.trimURLs take over from that? I see that browser.urlbar.trimHttps is set to False by default.
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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sun Feb 15 16:35:20 2026
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    On 2026-02-15 08:31, Andy Burns wrote:
    Java Jive wrote:

    I don't believe the exposure was as short as 1/4s.-a The phone used was
    my Pixel 8a, and when photographing these things with it, the usual
    exposure is from 1 to 3s, and I have to brace it against something to
    keep it steady enough to get an unblurred image.

    Did you try "night sight" mode?

    Yes, I always use that for aurora, normal mode shows little to nothing
    at all.
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to alt.photography,uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 17 11:04:59 2026
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    On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 15:15:36 +0000
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-02-14 13:09, Andy Burns wrote:

    Java Jive wrote:

    Bit late, but I've not seen in any of the NGs I frequent pictures
    of the spectacular aurora on that night ...

    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205131819.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_205311469.NIGHT.jpg>
    <www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/PXL_20260119_210113254.NIGHT.jpg>

    How do they look to the eye vs the camera?

    One of the few occasions when the eye could see pretty much as well
    as the camera, easily and certainly the best I've ever seen
    personally, as opposed to other peoples' photos, and I can't remember
    many of those that were as good. Although normally I have the
    University Of Lancaster app running on my phone, on this occasion I'd disabled its notifications for fear of potentially disturbing my
    cousin, with whom I was staying, in the middle of the night, so I
    wasn't aware of the aurora until his son rang us about it, because
    he'd seen it from the back of his house. By contrast, what normally
    happens is that the phone notifies me, and I take it out to the back
    window of my house to see if there is sufficient clear sky to see
    anything, which often of course there isn't, but even when there is,
    usually I can only see a vague smear in the sky, which the phone's
    photos show to be green.


    Riding a minibus along the Dalton Highway from above the Arctic Circle
    down to Fairbanks, Alaska, in the year after the eruption of Mt.
    Pinatubo in the Philippines, not only did we not have any digital
    cameras (too early for them), but we didn't need them. There were so
    many hours of the Aurora that we got bored watching it, and instead
    watched a video tape of 'The Bear'.

    Sometimes things just work out that you are in the right place at
    the right time.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 21 19:45:36 2026
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    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:


    Sometimes things just work out that you are in the right place at
    the right time.

    Yep. We decided to visit the wiferCOs relatives who live in Scotland in February/ March 2013
    but also decided to make a decent break of it by taking a drive North
    roughly on what has now become the ( and some say ruined by Motor homers
    and publicity ) North Coast 500.
    We used B+BrCOs just hoping we found one before darkness fell and stopped one night in a small settlement called Leirinmore. By the time we settled into
    the room and freshened up and then walked to the pub next door for food it
    had got dark, because of the time of the year menu wasnrCOt elaborate
    and was mainly quick to prepare and serve fare so I think we settled on a
    pie and and chips or similar offering. Thought after awhile it was taking a
    bit of time but as we having a relaxing drink we werenrCOt bothered but the place had gone eerily quiet with just us in it, all of sudden the owner who
    was preparing the food dashed in from outside and said rCLSorry , forgot you were here ,werCOve all gone outside to watch the Northern Lights its one of the best displays we have seen for years.
    I believe they were seen quite a long way South that night possibly the 26
    of February but we were lucky enough to be by chance right in the North of Scotland.
    Previously I did see them once in the Mid 1980rCOs while visiting Mull.
    Both occasions the displays were quite colourful but we had not had our expectations raised like can happen now to some by seeing someones photo
    image filling a spot on the local TV weather forecast and getting disappointed that seeing with the naked eye is not usually as intense .

    GH
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 21 20:23:14 2026
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    On 21/02/2026 19:45, Marland wrote:
    Previously I did see them once in the Mid 1980rCOs while visiting Mull.
    Both occasions the displays were quite colourful but we had not had our expectations raised like can happen now to some by seeing someones photo image filling a spot on the local TV weather forecast and getting disappointed that seeing with the naked eye is not usually as intense .


    I used do some auroral operating as a radio amateur and quite often
    could hear the auroral signal but not see anything. )-:
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.photography on Sat Feb 21 22:16:17 2026
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    On 21 Feb 2026 19:45:36 GMT
    Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:


    Sometimes things just work out that you are in the right place at
    the right time.

    Yep. We decided to visit the wiferCOs relatives who live in Scotland in February/ March 2013
    but also decided to make a decent break of it by taking a drive North
    roughly on what has now become the ( and some say ruined by Motor
    homers and publicity ) North Coast 500.
    We used B+BrCOs just hoping we found one before darkness fell and
    stopped one night in a small settlement called Leirinmore. By the
    time we settled into the room and freshened up and then walked to the
    pub next door for food it had got dark, because of the time of the
    year menu wasnrCOt elaborate and was mainly quick to prepare and serve
    fare so I think we settled on a pie and and chips or similar
    offering. Thought after awhile it was taking a bit of time but as we
    having a relaxing drink we werenrCOt bothered but the place had gone
    eerily quiet with just us in it, all of sudden the owner who was
    preparing the food dashed in from outside and said rCLSorry , forgot
    you were here ,werCOve all gone outside to watch the Northern Lights
    its one of the best displays we have seen for years. I believe they
    were seen quite a long way South that night possibly the 26 of
    February but we were lucky enough to be by chance right in the North
    of Scotland. Previously I did see them once in the Mid 1980rCOs while visiting Mull. Both occasions the displays were quite colourful but
    we had not had our expectations raised like can happen now to some
    by seeing someones photo image filling a spot on the local TV
    weather forecast and getting disappointed that seeing with the naked
    eye is not usually as intense .

    GH
    Many, many years ago, (1970s), I travelled up to the north coast, and as
    I drove westwards, there were some inlets where the road took a detour
    inland. Some years later, I drove the same route, and one particular
    inlet detour had been bypassed by a bridge. Being one of those people
    who always likes to take The Old Road, I started to follow the original
    road around the inlet. But I met a herd of Highland Cattle, who had
    taken control of the road. There was no way that I was going to be
    allowed to go that way, they were much bigger than my Herald 13/60.
    Over on the west coast, there used to be legendary queues for the Strome
    Ferry. It too was bypassed, by a tunnel, which had a very impressive
    concrete coat of arms at the entrance. It so happened that I stopped
    at a B&B which was run by the engineer from Balfour Beatty who had built
    the tunnel. I asked him how they had made the coat of arms, and he told
    me that a specialist had come to stay for a night, he had brought some
    large blocks of expanded polystyrene with him, and he proceeded to carve
    out the reverse image of the coat of arms, using an electric carving
    knife, on the kitchen table. This was then used to mould the concrete.
    He said they were finding specks of the stuff in the kitchen for weeks afterwards.
    --
    Davey.
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.digital-tv on Sun Feb 22 12:59:35 2026
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    On 21/02/2026 22:16, Davey wrote:
    Many, many years ago, (1970s), I travelled up to the north coast, and as
    I drove westwards, there were some inlets where the road took a detour inland. Some years later, I drove the same route, and one particular
    inlet detour had been bypassed by a bridge. Being one of those people
    who always likes to take The Old Road, I started to follow the original
    road around the inlet. But I met a herd of Highland Cattle, who had
    taken control of the road. There was no way that I was going to be
    allowed to go that way, they were much bigger than my Herald 13/60.
    Over on the west coast, there used to be legendary queues for the Strome Ferry. It too was bypassed, by a tunnel, which had a very impressive
    concrete coat of arms at the entrance. It so happened that I stopped
    at a B&B which was run by the engineer from Balfour Beatty who had built
    the tunnel. I asked him how they had made the coat of arms, and he told
    me that a specialist had come to stay for a night, he had brought some
    large blocks of expanded polystyrene with him, and he proceeded to carve
    out the reverse image of the coat of arms, using an electric carving
    knife, on the kitchen table. This was then used to mould the concrete.
    He said they were finding specks of the stuff in the kitchen for weeks afterwards.


    What tunnel is that?

    There is the avalanche shelter on that route but it is hardly a tunnel.
    There are proposals for a long term solution with a tunnel but I do not
    think it has been built?






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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Sun Feb 22 13:51:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 12:59:35 +0000
    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 22:16, Davey wrote:
    Many, many years ago, (1970s), I travelled up to the north coast,
    and as I drove westwards, there were some inlets where the road
    took a detour inland. Some years later, I drove the same route, and
    one particular inlet detour had been bypassed by a bridge. Being
    one of those people who always likes to take The Old Road, I
    started to follow the original road around the inlet. But I met a
    herd of Highland Cattle, who had taken control of the road. There
    was no way that I was going to be allowed to go that way, they were
    much bigger than my Herald 13/60. Over on the west coast, there
    used to be legendary queues for the Strome Ferry. It too was
    bypassed, by a tunnel, which had a very impressive concrete coat of
    arms at the entrance. It so happened that I stopped at a B&B which
    was run by the engineer from Balfour Beatty who had built the
    tunnel. I asked him how they had made the coat of arms, and he told
    me that a specialist had come to stay for a night, he had brought
    some large blocks of expanded polystyrene with him, and he
    proceeded to carve out the reverse image of the coat of arms, using
    an electric carving knife, on the kitchen table. This was then used
    to mould the concrete. He said they were finding specks of the
    stuff in the kitchen for weeks afterwards.


    What tunnel is that?

    There is the avalanche shelter on that route but it is hardly a
    tunnel. There are proposals for a long term solution with a tunnel
    but I do not think it has been built?







    You are asking me to dredge the memory banks. It must have been the Strathcarron tunnel, it is in the right place, and has a big
    decorative frieze at the entrance. It might not be a big tunnel, but
    when the only existing route was the ferry with its massive tailbacks in summer, it was a wonder. The year of construction, 1970, also makes
    sense. I drove through the tunnel in summer 1972.
    Somewhere in the deep archives I have a photo, but that might take weeks
    to unearth.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Sun Feb 22 14:47:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-22 12:59, JMB99 wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 22:16, Davey wrote:

    Many, many years ago, (1970s), I travelled up to the north coast, and as
    I drove westwards, there were some inlets where the road took a detour
    inland. Some years later, I drove the same route, and one particular
    inlet detour had been bypassed by a bridge. Being one of those people
    who always likes to take The Old Road, I started to follow the original
    road around the inlet. But I met a herd of Highland Cattle, who had
    taken control of the road. There was no way that I was going to be
    allowed to go that way, they were much bigger than my Herald 13/60.
    Over on the west coast, there used to be legendary queues for the Strome
    Ferry. It too was bypassed, by a tunnel, which had a very impressive
    concrete coat of arms at the entrance. It so happened that I stopped
    at a B&B which was run by the engineer from Balfour Beatty who had built
    the tunnel. I asked him how they had made the coat of arms, and he told
    me that a specialist had come to stay for a night, he had brought some
    large blocks of expanded polystyrene with him, and he proceeded to carve
    out the reverse image of the coat of arms, using an electric carving
    knife, on the kitchen table. This was then used to mould the concrete.
    He said they were finding specks of the stuff in the kitchen for weeks
    afterwards.

    What tunnel is that?

    There is the avalanche shelter on that route but it is hardly a tunnel. There are proposals for a long term solution with a tunnel but I do not think it has been built?

    Yes, getting a bit OT now, but you're right; it's not so much a
    full-blown tunnel as a protective concrete roof to protect both the rail
    line and the road against rockfalls and avalanches which are common
    along that route, particularly so just there.

    The National Library of Scotland (NLS) has an online map service which
    is very useful for seeing how things have changed, because you can
    choose both a background or base layer map and an overly map, and use a
    slider to 'cross-fade' between the two. This is the area being
    discussed with the current OS map overlaid by a 1950s OS map, the latter
    being what is displayed on first loading ...

    <https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=12.1&lat=57.39732&lon=-5.51559&layers=11&b=OSLeisure&o=100>

    ... You can see where the old Stromeferry used to cross the mouth of
    Loch Carron. If you then move the slider to the left to show the
    current map, you can see that a new section of road has been built which largely follows alongside and inland of the rail line [*]. It is this
    new section that has the 'tunnel' with the 'decorated' concrete which is clearly visible in Google Maps Street View:

    <https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.3820182,-5.4734996,3a,54.6y,51.17h,98.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ss4FRClbCKVRiHCirp3Voww!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-8.657600136125865%26panoid%3Ds4FRClbCKVRiHCirp3Voww%26yaw%3D51.16643292071945!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>

    Loch Carron and the surrounding area is rather beautiful, here are some
    photos I took in 2012:

    <https://www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/20121018_153424_Loch_Carron.jpg> <https://www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/20121018_155100_Loch_Carron_Panorama.jpg> <https://www.macfh.co.uk/Temp/20121022_125936_Loch_Carron_Panorama_From_Viewpoint.jpg>

    * That road is a b*r to drive, because it's largely single track with
    passing places, and even where it's dual-track it has many bends. It's
    also a popular tourist route and some tourists tend not to be very good
    at pulling in to passing places to let any traffic behind them pass.
    You really don't want to get stuck behind something like a caravan just
    there! The road up Loch Lomond side used to be very much like that
    before the new fast road was built. You can only walk that old road
    now. Here's a late 1950s photo taken from the shore alongside it by my mother; when scanning all the family photos, it took me some time to
    work out where it was. According to an old family friend (I was too
    young to remember anything of this), the rear axle of the Ford Zephyr we
    were in broke, and we camped for three days at Tarbet on the shore of
    Loch Lomond while a new one was shipped up to the local garage and they
    did the repair:

    <https://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/FamilyHistory/Loch_Lomond_From_The_Old_Shore_Road.jpg>
    --

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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.digital-tv on Sun Feb 22 16:34:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 22/02/2026 14:47, Java Jive wrote:
    That road is a b*r to drive, because it's largely single track with
    passing places, and even where it's dual-track it has many bends.-a It's also a popular tourist route and some tourists tend not to be very good
    at pulling in to passing places to let any traffic behind them pass. You really don't want to get stuck behind something like a caravan just
    there!-a The road up Loch Lomond side used to be very much like that
    before the new fast road was built.-a You can only walk that old road
    now.-a Here's a late 1950s photo taken from the shore alongside it by my mother; when scanning all the family photos, it took me some time to
    work out where it was.-a According to an old family friend (I was too
    young to remember anything of this), the rear axle of the Ford Zephyr we were in broke, and we camped for three days at Tarbet on the shore of
    Loch Lomond while a new one was shipped up to the local garage and they
    did the repair:


    The A82 up Loch Lomondside still has lots of narrow sections. Whenever someone unfamiliar with the area asks about it, I always advise them to
    treat it like a single track road. There can be a large HGV or tour bus
    just around any bend. And of course many drivers (not just tourists)
    will stop without leaving any gaps, leaving no room for anyone to
    manoeuvre and get things moving. And for days after any heavy rain,
    there will be a lot of surface water that cannot drain away.









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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Sun Feb 22 18:02:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-22 16:34, JMB99 wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 14:47, Java Jive wrote:

    That road is a b*r to drive, because it's largely single track with
    passing places, and even where it's dual-track it has many bends.
    It's also a popular tourist route and some tourists tend not to be
    very good at pulling in to passing places to let any traffic behind
    them pass. You really don't want to get stuck behind something like a
    caravan just there!-a The road up Loch Lomond side used to be very much
    like that before the new fast road was built.-a You can only walk that
    old road now.

    The A82 up Loch Lomondside still has lots of narrow sections.-a Whenever someone unfamiliar with the area asks about it, I always advise them to treat it like a single track road.-a There can be a large HGV or tour bus just around any bend.-a And of course many drivers (not just tourists)
    will stop without leaving any gaps, leaving no room for anyone to
    manoeuvre and get things moving.-a And for days after any heavy rain,
    there will be a lot of surface water that cannot drain away.

    Yes, the new section of the A82 only goes as far as Tarbet, north of
    there it's pretty much like it used to be in the 1950s & 1960s.
    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Sun Feb 22 19:16:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-22 18:09, Davey wrote:

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 14:47:42 +0000
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    <https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.3820182,-5.4734996,3a,54.6y,51.17h,98.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ss4FRClbCKVRiHCirp3Voww!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-8.657600136125865%26panoid%3Ds4FRClbCKVRiHCirp3Voww%26yaw%3D51.16643292071945!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>

    ..which conveniently describes it as Strathcarron Tunnel. Which is
    where we came in.

    Except that visibly it is not a true tunnel, because it doesn't go
    through any part of the mountain, which is where we came in.
    --

    Fake news kills!

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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Mon Feb 23 13:16:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-22 19:16, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-22 18:09, Davey wrote:

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 14:47:42 +0000
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    <https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.3820182,-5.4734996,3a,54.6y,51.17h,98.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ss4FRClbCKVRiHCirp3Voww!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-8.657600136125865%26panoid%3Ds4FRClbCKVRiHCirp3Voww%26yaw%3D51.16643292071945!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>

    ..which conveniently describes it as Strathcarron Tunnel. Which is
    where we came in.

    Except that visibly it is not a true tunnel, because it doesn't go
    through any part of the mountain, which is where we came in.

    Perhaps in danger of overkill on this point now, but I've just noticed
    that on the current OS map it's clearly marked as an 'Avalanche
    Shelter', though in fact, as I can attest from reading local news, the
    road is closed far more often by rockfalls than avalanches ...

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=is+the+road+between+Stromeferry+and+Strathcarron+more+often+closed+by+rock+falls+or+avalanches

    "AI Overview

    The road between Stromeferry and Strathcarron (A890) is
    significantly more often closed by rock falls and landslides rather than avalanches.

    The section of road along the southern shore of Loch Carron, known as
    the Stromeferry Bypass, has been plagued by frequent rock falls since
    opening in 1970.

    * Rock Falls/Landslides: Major rock falls have caused closures
    lasting for weeks or months (e.g., in 2012, 2018), requiring a 130+ mile diversion.

    * Avalanches: While an "avalanche shelter" exists on this route, it
    is often referred to in the context of general rock fall protection, and
    the primary cause of frequent, long-term closures is instability of the
    steep rock face above the road, not snow.

    The road is notoriously unstable, and Highland Council carries out
    regular maintenance and monitoring to manage the falling rock."

    ... And indeed if you drive it today there are many sections where the
    rock faces are covered with wire netting in an attempt to prevent
    smaller rockfalls from landing on the road and rail track ...

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.3638459,-5.5077019,3a,60y,91.33h,92.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIMvAF3M74-d9O8wDfziyxQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.8745155889069878%26panoid%3DIMvAF3M74-d9O8wDfziyxQ%26yaw%3D91.32522546215819!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

    ... and signs tell you how to report rock falls, avalanches are not
    mentioned ...

    <https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Loch+Carron+View+Point/@57.3626673,-5.509129,3a,44.7y,0.27h,85.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSQovgF802F8DB0iGroJpVg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D4.910041738699292%26panoid%3DSQovgF802F8DB0iGroJpVg%26yaw%3D0.27143390447596094!7i16384!8i8192!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x488e8fd17f90a5ed:0xcd9403170b99587f!2sStromeferry,+Strome+Ferry+IV53+8UJ!3b1!8m2!3d57.352444!4d-5.5513921!16zL20vMDhtanNy!3m5!1s0x488e8f892084035f:0x267c92336ad81edb!8m2!3d57.3503067!4d-5.5457118!16s%2Fg%2F11t7c6t6fp?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>

    I think this horse has been well an truly flogged to death now :-)
    --

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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 08:08:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 22/02/2026 18:02, Java Jive wrote:
    Yes, the new section of the A82 only goes as far as Tarbet, north of
    there it's pretty much like it used to be in the 1950s & 1960s.


    Some of the narrowest and with most bends, are South of Tarbet.



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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 13:20:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-24 08:08, JMB99 wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 18:02, Java Jive wrote:

    Yes, the new section of the A82 only goes as far as Tarbet, north of
    there it's pretty much like it used to be in the 1950s & 1960s.

    Some of the narrowest and with most bends, are South of Tarbet.

    I think you may be confused. I've driven that road several times within
    the last five years, and the section between Alexandria and Tarbet is
    almost entirely a new route, and, where it isn't, the road has been
    widened and straightened. You can 'drive' north from here ...

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Loch+Lomond/@55.9996843,-4.5980961,3a,75y,328.44h,88.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sFSc8l5oS8JCAFYTVQ_4i3Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.3313994264715063%26panoid%3DFSc8l5oS8JCAFYTVQ_4i3Q%26yaw%3D328.43565443502575!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x4888ffd3731c51f3:0xc4f1e758e337fb38!8m2!3d56.1113678!4d-4.6288602!16zL20vMDFuY2Nj?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

    ... or you can scroll north from here comparing the two maps ...

    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.1&lat=56.02011&lon=-4.62537&layers=10&b=OSLeisure&o=66
    --

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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 13:29:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-24 13:20, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-24 08:08, JMB99 wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 18:02, Java Jive wrote:

    Yes, the new section of the A82 only goes as far as Tarbet, north of
    there it's pretty much like it used to be in the 1950s & 1960s.

    Some of the narrowest and with most bends, are South of Tarbet.

    I think you may be confused.-a I've driven that road several times within the last five years, and the section between Alexandria and Tarbet is
    almost entirely a new route, and, where it isn't, the road has been
    widened and straightened.-a You can 'drive' north from here ...

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Loch+Lomond/@55.9996843,-4.5980961,3a,75y,328.44h,88.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sFSc8l5oS8JCAFYTVQ_4i3Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.3313994264715063%26panoid%3DFSc8l5oS8JCAFYTVQ_4i3Q%26yaw%3D328.43565443502575!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x4888ffd3731c51f3:0xc4f1e758e337fb38!8m2!3d56.1113678!4d-4.6288602!16zL20vMDFuY2Nj?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

    ... or you can scroll north from here comparing the two maps ...

    Scrub that second link, there's no overlay map from just a little
    further north (NLS were reliant on being able to find and digitise
    surviving hardcopy maps - presumably they couldn't find one covering
    that area). I've checked that this one is covers the whole of that section:

    <https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.4&lat=56.01503&lon=-4.62006&layers=256&b=OSLeisure&o=33>
    --

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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 14:15:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 13:29:02 +0000
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-02-24 13:20, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-24 08:08, JMB99 wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 18:02, Java Jive wrote:

    Yes, the new section of the A82 only goes as far as Tarbet, north
    of there it's pretty much like it used to be in the 1950s &
    1960s.

    Some of the narrowest and with most bends, are South of Tarbet.

    I think you may be confused.-a I've driven that road several times
    within the last five years, and the section between Alexandria and
    Tarbet is almost entirely a new route, and, where it isn't, the
    road has been widened and straightened.-a You can 'drive' north from
    here ...

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Loch+Lomond/@55.9996843,-4.5980961,3a,75y,328.44h,88.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sFSc8l5oS8JCAFYTVQ_4i3Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.3313994264715063%26panoid%3DFSc8l5oS8JCAFYTVQ_4i3Q%26yaw%3D328.43565443502575!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x4888ffd3731c51f3:0xc4f1e758e337fb38!8m2!3d56.1113678!4d-4.6288602!16zL20vMDFuY2Nj?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

    ... or you can scroll north from here comparing the two maps ...

    Scrub that second link, there's no overlay map from just a little
    further north (NLS were reliant on being able to find and digitise
    surviving hardcopy maps - presumably they couldn't find one
    covering that area). I've checked that this one is covers the whole
    of that section:

    <https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.4&lat=56.01503&lon=-4.62006&layers=256&b=OSLeisure&o=33>

    I quote:
    "I think this horse has been well and truly flogged to death now :-)"
    --
    Davey.
    I think this horse has been well an truly flogged to death now :-)
    I think this horse has been well an truly flogged to death now :-)
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 16:01:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    [rCa]

    I quote:
    "I think this horse has been well and truly flogged to death now :-)"

    Be carefulrCafrom February 17th this is the Year of the Fire Horse.

    It comes round once every 60 years, the last one was in 1966. The then
    Chinese New Year kicked off with the PAVN and VC Tet offensive in Vietnam,
    and things got a lot worse there for quite some time.

    But that was a Yin year, this one is a Yang year, meaning things will be
    even more intenserCa

    Apologies to anyone who doesnrCOt understand the terms PAVN, VC, Tet, or Vietnam, or the lessons of history. Take my word for it, them was bad times
    for those affected.
    --
    Spike
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 16:27:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 24/02/2026 13:20, Java Jive wrote:
    I think you may be confused.-a I've driven that road several times within the last five years, and the section between Alexandria and Tarbet is
    almost entirely a new route, and, where it isn't, the road has been
    widened and straightened.-a You can 'drive' north from here ...



    Oooops, Sorry I meant North of Tarbet.
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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 16:48:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-24 14:15, Davey wrote:

    I quote:
    "I think this horse has been well and truly flogged to death now :-)"

    That referred to the 'avalanche shelter' or 'tunnel' in the Stromeferry bypass.
    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 16:50:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2026-02-24 16:27, JMB99 wrote:

    On 24/02/2026 13:20, Java Jive wrote:

    I think you may be confused.-a I've driven that road several times
    within the last five years, and the section between Alexandria and
    Tarbet is almost entirely a new route, and, where it isn't, the road
    has been widened and straightened.-a You can 'drive' north from here ...

    Oooops, Sorry I meant North of Tarbet.

    Yes, as we both have written, that is still original windy road hugging
    the loch shore, though now it's at least dual-track.
    --

    Fake news kills!

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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Feb 24 18:17:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 24/02/2026 16:50, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2026-02-24 16:27, JMB99 wrote:

    On 24/02/2026 13:20, Java Jive wrote:

    I think you may be confused.-a I've driven that road several times
    within the last five years, and the section between Alexandria and
    Tarbet is almost entirely a new route, and, where it isn't, the road
    has been widened and straightened.-a You can 'drive' north from here ...

    Oooops, Sorry I meant North of Tarbet.

    Yes, as we both have written, that is still original windy road hugging
    the loch shore, though now it's at least dual-track.

    Around 40 years ago I drove along the full length of the A897 north to
    south, but can't remember if I saw another car. :-)

    The A836/838 was also interesting, mainly for the kamikaze sheep who,
    instead of eating the grass at the sides of the single-track road,
    insisted on standing in the middle of the road round blind bends
    (travelling from Lybster to Kinlochbervie).
    --
    Jeff
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