"One long-standing theory among chemists holds that ribose, a sugar that forms the structural backbone of RNA, arose spontaneously through a
chemical process. However, new research challenges this idea."
"In a study published in Chem, scientists from Scripps Research and the Georgia Institute of Technology question the validity of the rCLformose reactionrCY hypothesis. This hypothesis proposes that simple formaldehyde molecules reacted under early Earth conditions to form ribose. But the
new findings reveal a key limitation: under controlled experimental conditions, the formose reaction does not yield linear sugars like
ribose. Instead, it predominantly produces branched sugar structures,
which are incompatible with the formation of RNA."
"Since almost all of the sugars that are used as molecular building
blocks in living organisms are linear and unbranched, this suggests that
the formose reaction cannot explain the origins of biotic sugars."
"rCLThe concept of the formose reaction as a prebiotic source of ribose needs serious reconsideration,rCY says corresponding author Ramanarayanan Krishnamurthy, professor of chemistry at Scripps Research."
The problem is, unbranched sugars are are needed on a prebiotic earth
and difficult to synthesise.
rCLOur goal was to point out all the problems that you will face if you
are thinking about the formose reaction in the context of the prebiotic sugar synthesis, but we arenrCOt saying this is the endpoint; our results might inspire somebody to come up with a better way to somehow overcome these issues,rCY says Krishnamurthy. rCLWe encourage the community to think differently and search for alternative solutions to explain how sugar molecules arose on early Earth.rCY
https://scitechdaily.com/new-research-challenges-160-year-old-long- standing-origin-of-life-theory/ #:~:text=%E2%80%9COur%20work%20might%20be%20helpful, %2C%2023%20April%202025%2C%20Chem.&text=j.chempr.2025.102553-,What%20is%20this?,Grant%2020%2DEXO%2D0006.
Alternatives to the formose reaction have been proposed (e.g. https:// pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsearthspacechem.5c00097), but this case is another data point in a trend I've been predicting: OoL stalling as
reality bites - prebiotic chemistry constraints and protocell complexity.
_______
"Whoa-hoh-oh, the gaps are gettin' bigger
-aYeah-eah, mmm they're gettin' bigger"
On 4/16/2026 1:25 AM, MarkE wrote:
"One long-standing theory among chemists holds that ribose, a sugar
that forms the structural backbone of RNA, arose spontaneously through
a chemical process. However, new research challenges this idea."
"In a study published in Chem, scientists from Scripps Research and
the Georgia Institute of Technology question the validity of the
rCLformose reactionrCY hypothesis. This hypothesis proposes that simple
formaldehyde molecules reacted under early Earth conditions to form
ribose. But the new findings reveal a key limitation: under controlled
experimental conditions, the formose reaction does not yield linear
sugars like ribose. Instead, it predominantly produces branched sugar
structures, which are incompatible with the formation of RNA."
"Since almost all of the sugars that are used as molecular building
blocks in living organisms are linear and unbranched, this suggests
that the formose reaction cannot explain the origins of biotic sugars."
"rCLThe concept of the formose reaction as a prebiotic source of ribose
needs serious reconsideration,rCY says corresponding author
Ramanarayanan Krishnamurthy, professor of chemistry at Scripps Research."
The problem is, unbranched sugars are are needed on a prebiotic earth
and difficult to synthesise.
rCLOur goal was to point out all the problems that you will face if you
are thinking about the formose reaction in the context of the
prebiotic sugar synthesis, but we arenrCOt saying this is the endpoint;
our results might inspire somebody to come up with a better way to
somehow overcome these issues,rCY says Krishnamurthy. rCLWe encourage the >> community to think differently and search for alternative solutions to
explain how sugar molecules arose on early Earth.rCY
https://scitechdaily.com/new-research-challenges-160-year-old-long-
standing-origin-of-life-theory/
#:~:text=%E2%80%9COur%20work%20might%20be%20helpful,
%2C%2023%20April%202025%2C%20Chem.&text=j.chempr.2025.102553-,What%20is%20this?,Grant%2020%2DEXO%2D0006.
Alternatives to the formose reaction have been proposed (e.g. https://
pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsearthspacechem.5c00097), but this case is
another data point in a trend I've been predicting: OoL stalling as
reality bites - prebiotic chemistry constraints and protocell complexity.
_______
"Whoa-hoh-oh, the gaps are gettin' bigger
-a-aYeah-eah, mmm they're gettin' bigger"
Gee whiz bumble bees can't fly.-a You should know that ribose has been
found on asteroids like Bennu.-a Bennu has evidence that it once had some liquid water inside of it, but it has been out in space, orbiting the
sun, for a very long time.-a How did ribose get made on an asteroid under likely less than optimal conditions?-a Bennu also had all the nucleobases
of DNA and RNA.
You are likely experiencing a nervous breakdown with your inability to
deal rationally with reality.-a You likely need to take some time to put yourself back together.-a Torturing yourself by putting up this junk
isn't going to help you.
Ron Okimoto
On 17/04/2026 12:23 am, RonO wrote:
On 4/16/2026 1:25 AM, MarkE wrote:
"One long-standing theory among chemists holds that ribose, a sugar that forms the structural backbone of RNA, arose spontaneously through a chemical process. However, new research challenges this idea."
"In a study published in Chem, scientists from Scripps Research and the Georgia Institute of Technology question the validity of the rCLformose reactionrCY hypothesis. This hypothesis proposes that simple formaldehyde molecules reacted under early Earth conditions to form ribose. But the new findings reveal a key limitation: under controlled experimental conditions, the formose reaction does not yield linear sugars like ribose. Instead, it predominantly produces branched sugar structures, which are incompatible with the formation of RNA."
"Since almost all of the sugars that are used as molecular building blocks in living organisms are linear and unbranched, this suggests that the formose reaction cannot explain the origins of biotic sugars."
"rCLThe concept of the formose reaction as a prebiotic source of ribose needs serious reconsideration,rCY says corresponding author Ramanarayanan Krishnamurthy, professor of chemistry at Scripps Research."
The problem is, unbranched sugars are are needed on a prebiotic earth and difficult to synthesise.
rCLOur goal was to point out all the problems that you will face if you are thinking about the formose reaction in the context of the prebiotic sugar synthesis, but we arenrCOt saying this is the endpoint; our results might inspire somebody to come up with a better way to somehow overcome these issues,rCY says Krishnamurthy. rCLWe encourage the community to think differently and search for alternative solutions to explain how sugar molecules arose on early Earth.rCY
https://scitechdaily.com/new-research-challenges-160-year-old-long- standing-origin-of-life-theory/ #:~:text=%E2%80%9COur%20work%20might%20be%20helpful, %2C%2023%20April%202025%2C%20Chem.&text=j.chempr.2025.102553-,What%20is%20this?,Grant%2020%2DEXO%2D0006.
Alternatives to the formose reaction have been proposed (e.g. https:// pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsearthspacechem.5c00097), but this case is another data point in a trend I've been predicting: OoL stalling as reality bites - prebiotic chemistry constraints and protocell complexity.
_______
"Whoa-hoh-oh, the gaps are gettin' bigger
-a-aYeah-eah, mmm they're gettin' bigger"
Gee whiz bumble bees can't fly.-a You should know that ribose has been found on asteroids like Bennu.-a Bennu has evidence that it once had some liquid water inside of it, but it has been out in space, orbiting the sun, for a very long time.-a How did ribose get made on an asteroid under likely less than optimal conditions?-a Bennu also had all the nucleobases of DNA and RNA.
You are likely experiencing a nervous breakdown with your inability to deal rationally with reality.-a You likely need to take some time to put yourself back together.-a Torturing yourself by putting up this junk isn't going to help you.
Ron Okimoto
Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and
switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop
trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots.
I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained
the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner?
On 2026/04/16 5:09 PM, MarkE wrote:
Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop
lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and
idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth
to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent
rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the
perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to
reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for
you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support
beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been
wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself
about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial
even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've
told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not
deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your
dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and
stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you
to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you
have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely
closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal
with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs
with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie
to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are
not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because
of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are
dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would
demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a
perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any
sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch.
You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other
rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and
explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully
ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as
bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any
sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is
absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the
scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with
reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance
and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to
keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your
beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot,
scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your
denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying
to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots.
I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you
but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube,
but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the
perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to
reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for
you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support
beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been
wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself
about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial
even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've
told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not
deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your
dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and
stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you
to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you
have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely
closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal
with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs
with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie
to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are
not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because
of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are
dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would
demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a
perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any
sane manner?
One long, tedious gaslighting. Way cool! talk.origins hasn't changed in
30+ years.
On 17/04/2026 12:23 am, RonO wrote:
On 4/16/2026 1:25 AM, MarkE wrote:
"One long-standing theory among chemists holds that ribose, a sugar
that forms the structural backbone of RNA, arose spontaneously
through a chemical process. However, new research challenges this idea." >>>
"In a study published in Chem, scientists from Scripps Research and
the Georgia Institute of Technology question the validity of the
rCLformose reactionrCY hypothesis. This hypothesis proposes that simple >>> formaldehyde molecules reacted under early Earth conditions to form
ribose. But the new findings reveal a key limitation: under
controlled experimental conditions, the formose reaction does not
yield linear sugars like ribose. Instead, it predominantly produces
branched sugar structures, which are incompatible with the formation
of RNA."
"Since almost all of the sugars that are used as molecular building
blocks in living organisms are linear and unbranched, this suggests
that the formose reaction cannot explain the origins of biotic sugars."
"rCLThe concept of the formose reaction as a prebiotic source of ribose >>> needs serious reconsideration,rCY says corresponding author
Ramanarayanan Krishnamurthy, professor of chemistry at Scripps
Research."
The problem is, unbranched sugars are are needed on a prebiotic earth
and difficult to synthesise.
rCLOur goal was to point out all the problems that you will face if you >>> are thinking about the formose reaction in the context of the
prebiotic sugar synthesis, but we arenrCOt saying this is the endpoint; >>> our results might inspire somebody to come up with a better way to
somehow overcome these issues,rCY says Krishnamurthy. rCLWe encourage the >>> community to think differently and search for alternative solutions
to explain how sugar molecules arose on early Earth.rCY
https://scitechdaily.com/new-research-challenges-160-year-old-long-
standing-origin-of-life-theory/
#:~:text=%E2%80%9COur%20work%20might%20be%20helpful,
%2C%2023%20April%202025%2C%20Chem.&text=j.chempr.2025.102553-,What%20is%20this?,Grant%2020%2DEXO%2D0006.
Alternatives to the formose reaction have been proposed (e.g.
https:// pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsearthspacechem.5c00097), but
this case is another data point in a trend I've been predicting: OoL
stalling as reality bites - prebiotic chemistry constraints and
protocell complexity.
_______
"Whoa-hoh-oh, the gaps are gettin' bigger
-a-aYeah-eah, mmm they're gettin' bigger"
Gee whiz bumble bees can't fly.-a You should know that ribose has been
found on asteroids like Bennu.-a Bennu has evidence that it once had
some liquid water inside of it, but it has been out in space, orbiting
the sun, for a very long time.-a How did ribose get made on an asteroid
under likely less than optimal conditions?-a Bennu also had all the
nucleobases of DNA and RNA.
You are likely experiencing a nervous breakdown with your inability to
deal rationally with reality.-a You likely need to take some time to
put yourself back together.-a Torturing yourself by putting up this
junk isn't going to help you.
Ron Okimoto
Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop
lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and
idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to
you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube,
but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps.
Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile
your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to
continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that
you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and
dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the
issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though
it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in
any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch.
You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained
the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and
dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane
manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is
absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the
scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with
reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance
and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs
are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist.
Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been
a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to
being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality
in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality.
There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself
about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent
with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful
ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest
enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your
denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at
best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not
deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie
to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of
wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are
dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a
perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any
sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You
must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes,
perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained
the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and
dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane
manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is
absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the
scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with
reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance
and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs
are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist.
Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner?
On 4/16/2026 6:58 PM, ShyDavid wrote:'
On 2026/04/16 5:09 PM, MarkE wrote:
Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and
switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop
trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots.
I've told you to stop denying reality and explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? Your denial shows your dishonesty and bait and switch. You must stop lying to yourself and stop trying to scam the other rubes, perps and idiots. I've told you to stop denying reality and
explained the truth to you but at best you have been a wilfully ignorant and incompetent rube, but you are likely closer to being as bogus and dishonest as the perps. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner? You need to reconcile your beliefs with reality. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue to lie to yourself about the scam just to support beliefs that you know are not consistent with reality. You have been wrong and dishonest because of wilful ignorance and lying to yourself about the issue. You are dishonest enough to keep pursuing the denial even though it would demonstrate that your beliefs are wrong. I've told you to stop being a perp, rube, idiot, scam artist. Can you not deal with reality in any sane manner?
One long, tedious gaslighting. Way cool! talk.origins hasn't changed in 30+ years.
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