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  • Re: Usenet Archive Update (news.blueworldhosting.com)

    From Marion@marion@facts.com to alt.free.newsservers,alt.free.nntp,news.admin.peering on Mon Sep 1 16:13:58 2025
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    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 03:59:35 -0000 (UTC), Jesse Rehmer wrote :


    I will update https://
    usenet.blueworldhosting.com with further status information soon.

    What would be fantastic, if it exists, is to replicate the ability for
    anyone, without an nntp engine, to search & copy a link to articles found.

    Google did it, but as you know, it's now no longer updated after Feb 2024.
    <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.free.newsservers
    <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>

    This replicated that engine, but it's broken more often than not.
    <https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com/>

    This was kindly added by retro guy, as I recall, in the summer of 2024.
    <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=alt.free.newsservers>

    And, at some point, this was added, but I'm not sure if it's working.
    <https://newsgrouper.org/alt.free.newsservers>

    Obviously, what is truly needed is what Google did, which is:
    a. An obvious link that is easy to remember
    b. That does a search on common text newsgroups
    c. Which spits out a single URI to a single article or thread

    Something like this URI for a search engine would be perfect...
    <https:// usenet.blueworldhosting.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>
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  • From Jesse Rehmer@jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com to alt.free.newsservers,alt.free.nntp,news.admin.peering on Mon Sep 1 16:52:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.peering

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 16:13:58 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 03:59:35 -0000 (UTC), Jesse Rehmer wrote :


    I will update https://
    usenet.blueworldhosting.com with further status information soon.

    What would be fantastic, if it exists, is to replicate the ability for anyone, without an nntp engine, to search & copy a link to articles
    found.

    Google did it, but as you know, it's now no longer updated after Feb
    2024.
    <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.free.newsservers
    <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>

    This replicated that engine, but it's broken more often than not.
    <https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com/>

    This was kindly added by retro guy, as I recall, in the summer of 2024.
    <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=alt.free.newsservers>

    And, at some point, this was added, but I'm not sure if it's working.
    <https://newsgrouper.org/alt.free.newsservers>

    Obviously, what is truly needed is what Google did, which is:
    a. An obvious link that is easy to remember b. That does a search on
    common text newsgroups c. Which spits out a single URI to a single
    article or thread

    Something like this URI for a search engine would be perfect...
    <https:// usenet.blueworldhosting.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>

    There are have been a number of attempts at making something to replace
    Google Groups. You've pointed out a few and another:

    https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/alt.free.newsservers

    I'm not a developer, nor am I particularly interested in making the
    archive available via the web. Others have done or are doing that.

    Web application software, regardless of the underlying language, is
    typically buggy and full of vulnerabilities. I foresee headaches and
    potential risk/harm to Usenet with web-based software that has not
    undergone robust vulnerability review, and is not developed by a
    community.

    Most of the efforts in this area seem like a one-person show. That's not sustainable, but should a community come together to develop and take ownership of a tool that's useful and is regularly updated/patched, I'd be interested in it.
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  • From Colin Macleod@user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.free.newsservers,alt.free.nntp,news.admin.peering on Mon Sep 1 18:13:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.peering

    Marion <marion@facts.com> posted:

    And, at some point, this was added, but I'm not sure if it's working.
    <https://newsgrouper.org/alt.free.newsservers>

    That's my site and it is working, except for UK users who our government's over-the-top Online Safety Act has forced me to block.

    If you click "Search" at the top-right of the group page you get a
    page where you can search for posts of that group by substrings of
    subject and/or author and/or maximum date.

    When you click into one of the posts found, there is a "Permalink" link
    at the bottom which gives a direct link to that post in the form:
    https://newsgrouper.org/<message-id>

    I'm afraid it's not practical for me to support full-text search of posts,
    or searching more than one group at a time.
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    Colin Macleod ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ https://cmacleod.me.uk

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