• Startup issues with http:// site

    From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat May 16 10:23:28 2026
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    My home page is on an insecure host. Not in itself a bad idea, hell there's nothing there
    I could care about. Okay you can see what stores I like to visit on my 'shopping' page. LOL

    I have a link that launches thunderbird: thunderbird %u
    and in settings my home page, which is set to open on startup, is set to http://....

    If I hit the home key on the toolbar I do get the home page.

    But when TB launches now and then I get something like 'appache server is operating normally.

    What? If I click the url and try editing it just to see what it is, it shows https://.

    Any ideas what I can tweak.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun May 17 02:53:41 2026
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    On Sat, 16 May 2026 10:23:28 -0400, Alan K. wrote:

    But when TB launches now and then I get something like 'appache
    server is operating normally.

    That sounds like the default home page you get on an Apache
    installation when it cannot identify which virtual site the browser is
    asking for, and falls back to the default one.
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun May 17 10:53:05 2026
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    Alen,

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote :
    That sounds like the default home page you get on an Apache
    installation when it cannot identify which virtual site the browser is
    asking for, and falls back to the default one.

    IOW, likely no (or unrecognised) "host" entry in the request headers.

    IIRC you can set Apache to return the HTTP request as a HTML page. Enable
    it and see what you send to it.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun May 17 11:43:16 2026
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    On 5/17/26 4:53 AM, R.Wieser wrote:
    Alen,

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote :
    That sounds like the default home page you get on an Apache
    installation when it cannot identify which virtual site the browser is
    asking for, and falls back to the default one.

    IOW, likely no (or unrecognised) "host" entry in the request headers.

    IIRC you can set Apache to return the HTTP request as a HTML page. Enable
    it and see what you send to it.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


    Problem is, it's not my server to admin. Not that I can't contact them.
    If the consensus is the server needs a tweak, I'll pass it on.
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun May 17 18:25:57 2026
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    "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> Wrote in message:

    My home page is on an insecure host. Not in itself a bad idea, hell there's nothing there
    I could care about. Okay you can see what stores I like to visit on my 'shopping' page. LOL

    I have a link that launches thunderbird: thunderbird %u
    and in settings my home page, which is set to open on startup, is set to http://....

    If I hit the home key on the toolbar I do get the home page.

    But when TB launches now and then I get something like 'appache server is operating normally.

    What? If I click the url and try editing it just to see what it is, it shows https://.

    Any ideas what I can tweak.

    IIUC you have an http link in Thunderbird which takes you to an https page in Firefox.

    Do you have 'https-only' mode set in Firefox settings?
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun May 17 19:39:57 2026
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    Alan,

    IOW, likely no (or unrecognised) "host" entry in the request headers.

    IIRC you can set Apache to return the HTTP request as a HTML page.
    Enable it and see what you send to it.

    Problem is, it's not my server to admin. Not that I can't contact them.

    Ah, thataway. My bad. I assumed it was yours to do with as you pleased.

    If the consensus is the server needs a tweak, I'll pass it on.

    I'm not at all *sure* about it, but checking the request headers would be a good first step..

    Instead of changing the webites PHP code to check your requests headers you can use the below link instead :

    https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-http-headers-is-my-browser-sending/

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun May 17 15:39:53 2026
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    On 5/17/26 1:25 PM, Dave Royal wrote:
    "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> Wrote in message:

    My home page is on an insecure host. Not in itself a bad idea, hell there's nothing there
    I could care about. Okay you can see what stores I like to visit on my 'shopping' page. LOL

    I have a link that launches thunderbird: thunderbird %u
    and in settings my home page, which is set to open on startup, is set to http://....

    If I hit the home key on the toolbar I do get the home page.

    But when TB launches now and then I get something like 'appache server is operating normally.

    What? If I click the url and try editing it just to see what it is, it shows https://.

    Any ideas what I can tweak.

    IIUC you have an http link in Thunderbird which takes you to an https page in Firefox.

    Do you have 'https-only' mode set in Firefox settings?
    Thanks but no it's off.
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  • From lisa@not.in.use@home.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon May 18 14:34:42 2026
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    On Sat, 16 May 2026 10:23:28 -0400, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    My home page is on an insecure host. Not in itself a bad idea, hell there's nothing there
    I could care about. Okay you can see what stores I like to visit on my 'shopping' page. LOL

    I have a link that launches thunderbird: thunderbird %u
    and in settings my home page, which is set to open on startup, is set to http://....

    If I hit the home key on the toolbar I do get the home page.

    But when TB launches now and then I get something like 'appache server is operating normally.

    What? If I click the url and try editing it just to see what it is, it shows https://.

    Any ideas what I can tweak.

    maybe this have some usefull help? https://www.lifewire.com/change-the-default-browser-in-thunderbird-2532751
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon May 18 23:30:45 2026
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    Dunno if I misunderstood:

    thunderbird open non https link <https://www.google.com/search?channel=entpr&q=thunderbird+open+non+https+link> --

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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon May 18 21:16:01 2026
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    On Mon, 18 May 2026 14:34:42 +0200, lisa wrote:


    maybe this have some usefull help? https://www.lifewire.com/change-the-default-browser-in-thunderbird-2532751

    Thanks for this. Just this week I noticed that when I clicked on a
    link in a message, Betterbird would open it in Firefox though my
    system default browser is Chrome. Setting those two preferences to
    True fixed the problem, and I didn't even need to do the third step.
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