Clive Page <clive.g.page@gmail.com> wrote:
On 26/09/2026 10:41, Tweed wrote:
Martin <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2026/sep/23/london-buses-in-terminal-decline-why-public-transport-in-global-cities-is-slowing-to-a-crawl-visualised
If you can work your way through this dreadful, painful eye candy the
underlining facts are very interesting.
WasnrCOt low road speeds why London got the Underground in the first place?
(By the way, you can get rid of the eye candy if using Firefox by using the "Reader view" option in the address bar, or F9 on some computers).
I use buses in London quite often now that I'm getting older and less willing to walk long distances, and it helps that I'm now old enough to qualify for a bus pass.
Speeds are clearly decreasing because of congestion, often caused by junctions and traffic lights poorly designed (by TfL I assume). We
often get a bus outside City Thameslink (south) go to west along the
Fleet St and the Strand. The bus immediately has to go through the
lights at the Blackfriars Road junction, which often takes many minutes because of much higher priority given to N-S traffic than that going E-W.
Buses also get held up rather often by cars and vans parked illegally in bus lanes: they should put cameras on the front of each bus and make
sure that each driver is fined using that as evidence.
I'm also amazed how many private cars are still pootling around central London, obviously driven by people who can easily afford the congestion charge. It's fair enough to allow vans to deliver things and taxis for those rich enough to afford them, but I'd have thought there was a case for raising the congestion charge to maybe 10 times its current level. When it was first brought in it did reduce congestion for a year or two, then the previous traffic levels resumed. So setting the fee high
enough will surely help.
WonrCOt junction capacity always be the limiting factor? Pretty much the same issue with railways.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> posted:In my opinion the largest constraint at Ely is North Junction. Just one service being just a bit late can affect two or more services.
Clive Page <clive.g.page@gmail.com> wrote:
On 26/09/2026 10:41, Tweed wrote:
Martin <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2026/sep/23/london-buses-in-terminal-decline-why-public-transport-in-global-cities-is-slowing-to-a-crawl-visualised
If you can work your way through this dreadful, painful eye candy the >>>>> underlining facts are very interesting.
WasnrCOt low road speeds why London got the Underground in the first place?
(By the way, you can get rid of the eye candy if using Firefox by using
the "Reader view" option in the address bar, or F9 on some computers).
I use buses in London quite often now that I'm getting older and less
willing to walk long distances, and it helps that I'm now old enough to
qualify for a bus pass.
Speeds are clearly decreasing because of congestion, often caused by
junctions and traffic lights poorly designed (by TfL I assume). We
often get a bus outside City Thameslink (south) go to west along the
Fleet St and the Strand. The bus immediately has to go through the
lights at the Blackfriars Road junction, which often takes many minutes
because of much higher priority given to N-S traffic than that going E-W. >>>
Buses also get held up rather often by cars and vans parked illegally in >>> bus lanes: they should put cameras on the front of each bus and make
sure that each driver is fined using that as evidence.
I'm also amazed how many private cars are still pootling around central
London, obviously driven by people who can easily afford the congestion
charge. It's fair enough to allow vans to deliver things and taxis for
those rich enough to afford them, but I'd have thought there was a case
for raising the congestion charge to maybe 10 times its current level.
When it was first brought in it did reduce congestion for a year or two, >>> then the previous traffic levels resumed. So setting the fee high
enough will surely help.
WonrCOt junction capacity always be the limiting factor? Pretty much the same
issue with railways.
What about platform capacity? Still an issue at Cambridge & Ely.
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