DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-passenger-service-92371/>
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between
the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel
and a steel rail?
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between
the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel
and a steel rail?
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between
the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel
and a steel rail?
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten monthsenger-service-92371/>
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-pass
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between
the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel
and a steel rail?
On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:46:21 +0100
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> gabbled:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten monthsenger-service-92371/>
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-pass
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between >the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel >and a steel rail?
Maybe they put tyres on them
On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:46:21 +0100s
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> gabbled:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months >> >> after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-pas
enger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between
the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel
and a steel rail?
Maybe they put tyres on them
Hm.
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e:Gummibereifung_der_metro.JPG
On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:46:21 +0100As the issue is specifically one of braking performance, some form of
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> gabbled:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
enters-pass
enger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Maybe they put tyres on them ;)
Seriously, how TF can it take 10 months to sort braking issues on a train?
On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:46:21 +0100
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> gabbled:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-pass
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
enger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between
the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel
and a steel rail?
Maybe they put tyres on them ;)
Seriously, how TF can it take 10 months to sort braking issues on a train?
On 09/09/2026 10:31, boltar@caprica.universe wrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:46:21 +0100track brake would be the obvious candidate. Given the DLR has a lot of >technical standards in common with German tram-derived systems, tram
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> gabbled:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months >>>> after their temporary withdrawal from service.<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-
enters-pass
enger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Maybe they put tyres on them ;)
Seriously, how TF can it take 10 months to sort braking issues on a train? >As the issue is specifically one of braking performance, some form of
style track brakes are probably not out of the question.
On Wed, 9 Sep 2026 16:58:15 +0200
Bob <nospam@gmail.com> gabbled:
On 09/09/2026 10:31, boltar@caprica.universe wrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:46:21 +0100As the issue is specifically one of braking performance, some form of
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> gabbled:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-
months
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
enters-pass
enger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Maybe they put tyres on them ;)
Seriously, how TF can it take 10 months to sort braking issues on a
train?
track brake would be the obvious candidate. Given the DLR has a lot of
technical standards in common with German tram-derived systems, tram
style track brakes are probably not out of the question.
They shouldn't need them as all the previous DLR stocks have performed without
any issues. I doubt its a hardware - ie wheel to rail - issue, far more likely
to be dodgy brake controller software.
A slightly different re-entry question... Years ago when DLR first opened, the
SO & I rode to the last station and stayed on the train. An agent approached and
informed us that this was the end of the line. We said we knew, we wanted to ride back to Canary Wharf. Agent shrugged and walked away. Always wondered if we
were supposed to gate out and reenter.
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip between
the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel wheel
and a steel rail?
On 08/09/2026 12:46, ColinR wrote:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months
after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-
enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Magnadhesion!
On 12/09/2026 13:04, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 08/09/2026 12:46, ColinR wrote:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months >>>> after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re-
enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Magnadhesion!
Showing your age!!
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/09/2026 13:04, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 08/09/2026 12:46, ColinR wrote:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months >>>> after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re- >>>> enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Magnadhesion!
Showing your age!!
You can get a modern version , thin steel plates are laid under the track which nowadays is non magnetic nickel silver. Modern magnets that are
strong enough to be rCLin rangerCY of the plates are attached to the Locos.
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/09/2026 13:04, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 08/09/2026 12:46, ColinR wrote:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months >>>>> after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re- >>>>> enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Magnadhesion!
Showing your age!!
You can get a modern version , thin steel plates are laid under the track which nowadays is non magnetic nickel silver. Modern magnets that are
strong enough to be rCLin rangerCY of the plates are attached to the Locos.
Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> posted:
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/09/2026 13:04, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 08/09/2026 12:46, ColinR wrote:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months >>>>>> after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re- >>>>>> enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Magnadhesion!
Showing your age!!
You can get a modern version , thin steel plates are laid under the track
which nowadays is non magnetic nickel silver. Modern magnets that are
strong enough to be rCLin rangerCY of the plates are attached to the Locos.
It's now about locos? Concrete ballast was/is used.
On 13/09/2026 09:51, Marland wrote:
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/09/2026 13:04, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 08/09/2026 12:46, ColinR wrote:
On 08/09/2026 06:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
DLR's new B23 stock has re-entered service yesterday, almost ten months >>>>>> after their temporary withdrawal from service.
<https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/first-of-54-new-dlr-trains-re- >>>>>> enters-passenger-service-92371/>
I am intrigued by one part of this article:
"and the installation of equipment intended to improve the grip
between the wheels and rails"
Apart from sanders, how else do you increase grip between a steel
wheel and a steel rail?
Magnadhesion!
Showing your age!!
You can get a modern version , thin steel plates are laid under the track
which nowadays is non magnetic nickel silver. Modern magnets that are
strong enough to be rCLin rangerCY of the plates are attached to the Locos. >>
Magnadhesion never worked for me as I had NS track. Still got a box full
of Peco's finest in the cupboard.
makes you look a twat
Do AI-bots care if they look like a twat?
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