• Oldest iPhone in the world?

    From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.telecom.mobile on Sat Jan 24 19:49:49 2026
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    I received a message that my iCloud storage is almost full. I decided
    to transfer some of my photos elsewhere. I see the first photo was
    added on 1 January 1601. Does this make mine the world's oldest
    iPhone?
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to uk.telecom.mobile on Sat Jan 24 20:55:34 2026
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    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> Wrote in message:

    I received a message that my iCloud storage is almost full. I decided
    to transfer some of my photos elsewhere. I see the first photo was
    added on 1 January 1601. Does this make mine the world's oldest
    iPhone?

    According to Wikipedia:
    "January 1 of this year (1601-01-01) is used as the base of file
    dates and of Active Directory Logon dates by Microsoft Windows.
    It is also the date from which ANSI dates are counted and were
    adopted by the American National Standards Institute for use with
    COBOL and other computer languages. All versions of the Microsoft
    Windows operating system from Windows 95 onward count units of
    one hundred nanoseconds from this epoch as a counter having 63
    bits until 30828/9/14 02:48:05.4775807.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1601>
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.telecom.mobile on Sat Jan 24 21:44:31 2026
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    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 20:55:34 +0000 (GMT), Dave Royal
    <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:

    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> Wrote in message:

    I received a message that my iCloud storage is almost full. I decided
    to transfer some of my photos elsewhere. I see the first photo was
    added on 1 January 1601. Does this make mine the world's oldest
    iPhone?

    According to Wikipedia:
    "January 1 of this year (1601-01-01) is used as the base of file
    dates and of Active Directory Logon dates by Microsoft Windows.
    It is also the date from which ANSI dates are counted and were
    adopted by the American National Standards Institute for use with
    COBOL and other computer languages. All versions of the Microsoft
    Windows operating system from Windows 95 onward count units of
    one hundred nanoseconds from this epoch as a counter having 63
    bits until 30828/9/14 02:48:05.4775807.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1601>

    Thanks - I thought there might be a more technical explanation but I
    did not think of this.
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  • From David Woolley@david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid to uk.telecom.mobile on Sat Jan 24 21:50:11 2026
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    On 24/01/2026 20:55, Dave Royal wrote:
    January 1 of this year (1601-01-01) is used as the base of file
    dates and of Active Directory Logon dates by Microsoft Windows.

    Seems an odd choice, since is precedes the following anomaly in the
    British and American calendars, but follows the equivalent one in the
    Catholic country ones:

    cal sep 1752
    September 1752
    Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
    1 2 14 15 16
    17 18 19 20 21 22 23
    24 25 26 27 28 29 30

    As the Gregorian calendar is used, in this context, it actually means
    the epoch was in December 1601 (have I got the sign right?), at the
    actual time of the epoch, in what became the country that defined the standard.

    Supposedly it is because of the 400 year leap year rule.
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to uk.telecom.mobile on Sat Jan 24 22:29:51 2026
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    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> Wrote in message:

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 20:55:34 +0000 (GMT), Dave Royal
    <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:

    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> Wrote in message:

    I received a message that my iCloud storage is almost full. I decided
    to transfer some of my photos elsewhere. I see the first photo was
    added on 1 January 1601. Does this make mine the world's oldest
    iPhone?

    According to Wikipedia:
    "January 1 of this year (1601-01-01) is used as the base of file
    dates and of Active Directory Logon dates by Microsoft Windows.
    It is also the date from which ANSI dates are counted and were
    adopted by the American National Standards Institute for use with
    COBOL and other computer languages. All versions of the Microsoft
    Windows operating system from Windows 95 onward count units of
    one hundred nanoseconds from this epoch as a counter having 63
    bits until 30828/9/14 02:48:05.4775807.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1601>

    Thanks - I thought there might be a more technical explanation but I
    did not think of this.

    Neither did I. I looked up wiki to see what was happening then. I
    thought I might be able to make a joke!
    Odd, isn't it. Why start at 1600?
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