Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started
to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to
say for years !
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HzzorAW0si4
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started
to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to
say for years !
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started
to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to
say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started
to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to
say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the same
mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I
tend to assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China*
have interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's
little more than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where
wannabe is the operative word. At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started >>>> to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to >>>> say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the same
mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I tend to assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little more than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the operative word.-a At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including digital,
so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started >>>> to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to >>>> say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the same
mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I tend to assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little more than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the operative word. At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including digital,
so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
As for Farage, he's little more
than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the operative word.
the anti ID crowd
On 17/10/2025 19:50, Jason H wrote:
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people
started
to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists "
tried to
say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the
same mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I
tend to
assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little
more
than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the
operative word.-a At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including
digital,
so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
Historically Brits have never been required to carry ID. For example,
you have 7 days to produce your driving licence..
On Fri 17/10/2025 22:04, David Wade wrote:
On 17/10/2025 19:50, Jason H wrote:
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people
started
to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists "
tried to
say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the
same mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I
tend to
assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little
more
than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the >>> operative word.-a At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including
digital,
so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
Historically Brits have never been required to carry ID. For example,
you have 7 days to produce your driving licence..
Oh yes they did - particularly during WW2!
I don't think the standard WWII civilian ID card had a photograph.
Jon Pertwee was in RN NID during WWII and used to go around checking security at RN Dockyards and found they could usually bluff there way
in. So they got hold of German Naval uniform and made out a naval ID
card to Mr A. Hitler with appropriate picture. They could still get
through 'security'.
On 17/10/2025 19:50, Jason H wrote:
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started >>>>> to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to >>>>> say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the same
mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I tend to >> assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little more >> than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the
operative word.-a At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including digital, >> so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
Historically Brits have never been required to carry ID. For example,
you have 7 days to produce your driving licence..
Dave
Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started >>>>> to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to >>>>> say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the same
mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I tend to >> assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little more >> than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the
operative word. At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including digital, >> so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
WhatrCOs special about the UKrCOs coming digital ID system is that it is a >fundamental requirement for the operation of HMRCrCOs AI surveillance system, >thatrCOs due to be unleashed from next April.
Rachel Reeves needs lotsa money, but itrCOs no good targeting the $bn >corporations because they have smart lawyers, smart tax advisers, and can >offshore their finance. So Reeves is coming after the ordinary people.
The AI system will monitor everything from bank accounts to foreign travel. >If it looks like your outgoings donrCOt match your declared income, yourCOll be
flagged. One slip on your tax return, thatrCOs a fine. Landlords and sole >traders will need to furnish quarterly returns. This is not an exhaustive >list.
The ID system ties it all together.
On 17/10/2025 19:50, Jason H wrote:
As for Farage, he's little more
than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the
operative word.
Odd to compare him with a former Labour politician with all the bile
Labour directs at him.
When a political party pay so much attention to an opposing politician,
it indicates they are afraid of him and know he will defeat them.
On 17/10/2025 19:50, Jason H wrote:
the anti ID crowd
I have been reading various comments from people who do not have any ID
at the moment.
The alternatives mainly cost money and need a signature from various
types of person. GPs and many others are soon going to get fed up with >people asking them to witness the form especially when they do not know
the person, so (like others) they will start charging.
I recently needed a form completed for my company pension. I did not
know any of the various classes of people, I mentioned to a friend that
one class was 'a person of standing in the local community'. She
thought that could apply to her so signed it.
Someone said the person signing has to be available for phone calls to
check ID, that is going to put many off signing unless they are paid.
All to make even more money for the BLIar family!
On 17/10/2025 22:45, Spike wrote:
Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started >>>>>> to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to >>>>>> say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the same >>>> mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a
second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I tend to >>> assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little more >>> than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the >>> operative word. At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including digital, >>> so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
WhatAs special about the UKAs coming digital ID system is that it is a >>fundamental requirement for the operation of HMRCAs AI surveillance system, >>thatAs due to be unleashed from next April.
Rachel Reeves needs lotsa money, but itAs no good targeting the $bn >>corporations because they have smart lawyers, smart tax advisers, and can >>offshore their finance. So Reeves is coming after the ordinary people.
The AI system will monitor everything from bank accounts to foreign travel. >>If it looks like your outgoings donAt match your declared income, youAll be >>flagged. One slip on your tax return, thatAs a fine. Landlords and sole >>traders will need to furnish quarterly returns. This is not an exhaustive >>list.
The ID system ties it all together.
None of which is necessarily bad. Personally, I'd be quite comfortable with
more tax evaders being caught. Other democratic nations have similarly integrated systems without making them bad. To be bad, it must be made bad, which is behaviour I would expect from China or Russia, not Britain.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 17:06:16 -0000 (UTC), Jason H
<jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 17/10/2025 22:45, Spike wrote:
Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 17/10/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
On 2025-10-17 10:09, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Am 16.10.25 um 20:31 schrieb User 7 of 9:
Its good to see huge resistance from the public. Finally people started >>>>>>> to understand what all of us so called "conspiracy theorists " tried to >>>>>>> say for years !
I'd love to see Nigel behind bars.
+1 He's just another dishonest right-wing 'populist' idiot in the same >>>>> mould as Boris & Trump.
As I've written elsewhere, having no driving license or gun licence, a >>>> second form of official photo ID would be quite practical for me. I tend to
assume the anti ID crowd who insist it will turn us into China* have
interest in things like voter suppression. As for Farage, he's little more >>>> than a jumped up, latter day Oswald Mosley wannabe, where wannabe is the >>>> operative word. At least Mosley was vaguely serious.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including digital, >>>> so I've no idea what's supposed to make Britain so special.
WhatrCOs special about the UKrCOs coming digital ID system is that it is a >>> fundamental requirement for the operation of HMRCrCOs AI surveillance system,
thatrCOs due to be unleashed from next April.
Rachel Reeves needs lotsa money, but itrCOs no good targeting the $bn
corporations because they have smart lawyers, smart tax advisers, and can >>> offshore their finance. So Reeves is coming after the ordinary people.
The AI system will monitor everything from bank accounts to foreign travel. >>> If it looks like your outgoings donrCOt match your declared income, yourCOll be
flagged. One slip on your tax return, thatrCOs a fine. Landlords and sole >>> traders will need to furnish quarterly returns. This is not an exhaustive >>> list.
The ID system ties it all together.
None of which is necessarily bad. Personally, I'd be quite comfortable with >> more tax evaders being caught. Other democratic nations have similarly
integrated systems without making them bad. To be bad, it must be made bad, >> which is behaviour I would expect from China or Russia, not Britain.
I agree. I suspect most of the people who strongly object to ID cards
pretend they're concerned about unwarranted surveillance, but in
actual fact they have something to hide. Maybe they're working in the
black economy accepting cash, or fraudulently claiming benefits. These
are the kind of people who don't want government joining up dots.
I lived in Hong Kong for 15 years, and getting an ID card is one of
the first things that expats do when they arrive. They were first
introduced by the British administration, mainly to address the issue
of illegal immigration from China. It's the key to obtaining all kinds
of services such as banking, utilities etc and they make for smoother immigration entry and exit
When I go back to Hong Kong there I can enter and leave Hong Kong
using nothing more than a QR code on my phone which is associated with
my ID. No passport or physical card needed. I always thought it was
such a good idea I wondered why we didn't have them in the UK.
Chris
They are coming to the UK but as options, not mandatory for every one.
So we have the UK Digital Wallet which I think started this year with ID
for veterans, but things like driving licences and passports are being
added as we go along.
* Plenty of other democratic countries have ID schemes, including digital,
There is one simple reason that most people do not want an electronic
ID card?
Because anything in computing that the Government gets it mucky littel fingers into turns to s**t and costs an absolute fortune (and more)
when they decide to scrap it!
Simples!
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