• Intermittent "bad username/password" errors when trying to read Plusnet email using POP

    From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Feb 11 21:54:54 2026
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    Various email clients (Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail, Samsung Mail app)
    are experiencing intermittent periods when they cannot read Plusnet
    email by POP or send by SMTP (either plain text or SSL). I get prompted
    to enter my username/password, even though the saved ones are correct.

    Is anyone else getting this symptom? I saw it briefly a couple of days
    ago and today it's failed about 50% of the time I've tried a "Get message".

    I've no idea whether my account had been migrated yet to Greenly or not:
    I've had the messages saying that it was due to happen by sometime last
    month, but no corresponding "welcome" message from Greenly. Neither
    Plusnet's webmail nor Greenly's accepts username and password as being a
    valid account, but does Greenly's webmail expect "username+mailbox"
    notation for user name as Plusnet did?

    I feel as if I'm in limbo. I'm not impressed with Plusnet and/or Greenly.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Fri Feb 13 01:54:04 2026
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    On 2026/2/11 21:54:54, NY wrote:
    Various email clients (Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail, Samsung Mail app)
    are experiencing intermittent periods when they cannot read Plusnet
    email by POP or send by SMTP (either plain text or SSL). I get prompted
    to enter my username/password, even though the saved ones are correct.

    Is anyone else getting this symptom? I saw it briefly a couple of days
    ago and today it's failed about 50% of the time I've tried a "Get message".

    I've no idea whether my account had been migrated yet to Greenly or not: I've had the messages saying that it was due to happen by sometime last month, but no corresponding "welcome" message from Greenly. Neither Plusnet's webmail nor Greenly's accepts username and password as being a valid account, but does Greenly's webmail expect "username+mailbox"
    notation for user name as Plusnet did?

    I feel as if I'm in limbo. I'm not impressed with Plusnet and/or Greenly.

    YANA by any means. Greenby had an outage for a large proportion of 24
    hours starting (I think) sometime on the 11th. Touch wood, they've fixed
    it now. Some said it was only those who had been migrated, others that
    it was affecting remaining users too. Apparently it affected both
    webmail and clients (POP and IMAP).

    I agree - definitely not impressed with either company. If it keeps
    going wrong (for me, it had been intermittent before the big outage),
    it'll be another reason to consider leaving PN - or, putting it another
    way, one fewer reason to stay, and those are diminishing anyway.
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    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Fri Feb 13 09:35:45 2026
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    NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

    I've no idea whether my account had been migrated yet to Greenly or not: I've had the messages saying that it was due to happen by sometime last month, but no corresponding "welcome" message from Greenly. Neither Plusnet's webmail nor Greenly's accepts username and password as being a valid account, but does Greenly's webmail expect "username+mailbox"
    notation for user name as Plusnet did?

    I feel as if I'm in limbo. I'm not impressed with Plusnet and/or Greenly.

    Many years ago I decided to have my email and ISP provided by different organisations; it makes changing ISP much more straightforward. I never had
    to change my email provider but these days most seem to offer a migration service.

    When the offer to migrate my (unused) PN email to the new supplier came through, I told PN I didnrCOt want to migrate, and it looks like that was a wise choice. I let my tiny web space go at the same time.

    IME PN are OK for internet access, and thatrCOs what they are now
    concentrating on by divesting other services.

    Could you find an email provider that could capture your current incoming
    email for you? They might also be able to migrate your email account, if
    they can find it :-(
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    Spike
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Sat Feb 14 03:35:17 2026
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    On 2026/2/13 9:35:45, Spike wrote:
    NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

    I've no idea whether my account had been migrated yet to Greenly or not:
    I've had the messages saying that it was due to happen by sometime last
    month, but no corresponding "welcome" message from Greenly. Neither
    Plusnet's webmail nor Greenly's accepts username and password as being a
    valid account, but does Greenly's webmail expect "username+mailbox"
    notation for user name as Plusnet did?

    I feel as if I'm in limbo. I'm not impressed with Plusnet and/or Greenly.

    Many years ago I decided to have my email and ISP provided by different organisations; it makes changing ISP much more straightforward. I never had to change my email provider but these days most seem to offer a migration service.

    Yes, after being messed about by the ashes of Demon, I too got my own
    domain, and a hosting arrangement - on the twin bases that the address
    is mine not my ISP's (I made sure the domain is registered to _me_), and
    should I ever fall out with either the ISP or the hosting company, I
    could switch without losing the address.

    There is still - and will always be - eggs-in-one-basket temporarily; if
    I fall out with the ISP, there will be a - hopefully not _long_ - break
    in all connection (in theory, I could still collect emails from a public
    PC, e. g. at a public library); if I fall out with the hosting company,
    I can set up with a new one, though anticipating some difficulty and
    delay (and loss of some emails, though not the address) if the
    falling-out is bad.

    When the offer to migrate my (unused) PN email to the new supplier came through, I told PN I didnrCOt want to migrate, and it looks like that was a wise choice. I let my tiny web space go at the same time.

    I take it you were mainly using some email address other than the
    PlusNet one (e. g. a gmail one).

    IME PN are OK for internet access, and thatrCOs what they are now concentrating on by divesting other services.

    Yes, on the whole I've not had many problems with the basic connection,
    which as you say they are doing their best to only supply that.

    Could you find an email provider that could capture your current incoming email for you? They might also be able to migrate your email account, if
    they can find it :-(

    Depends if he's using a plusnet address; I doubt a third (or fourth, now Greenly are involved) party would be _able_ to handle that - it's like
    the demon debacle, where the domain belongs to PlusNet/Greenly.

    FWIW: for connectivity, I've stayed with PlusNet so far - I'm pretty
    sure that where I am the connection is actually Openreach and PN are
    just reselling, so I don't _think_ it'd make a _lot_ of difference, but
    the service will have to get very bad - or expensive. For hosting, I was initially with tsoHost, who were fair; I switched to Krystal when
    tsoHost dropped telephone support entirely, as (although most of my communication with both) I didn't fancy losing that altogether. The
    transition, from what I remember, was fairly effortless (they even
    copied over my website, manually I think - not important, it's mostly
    many years old, though I do use a temp directory for the same purpose
    many people use dropbox, imgur, and similar). Krystal I'd rate as fair
    to good. (So far I don't think I've actually 'phoned them at all, just tickets.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Well I wish you'd just tell me, rather than trying to engage my
    enthusiasm, because I haven't got one.
    (Marvin; first series, fit the fifth.)
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