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From previous experience, it'll be back, though may take many hours.
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On 18/08/2026 20:04, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

From previous experience, it'll be back, though may take many hours.

I received an email on my Plusnet (now Greenby) address at 2044, and
I've just checked again, sending from Gmail to PN, and it's worked.

So maybe it's come back quicker than you feared.
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On 2026/8/18 21:57:41, NY wrote:

On 18/08/2026 20:04, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

From previous experience, it'll be back, though may take many hours.

I received an email on my Plusnet (now Greenby) address at 2044, and
I've just checked again, sending from Gmail to PN, and it's worked.

So maybe it's come back quicker than you feared.

It did come back; since I expected it would and am not expecting any
urgent emails, I didn't check it regularly, so I don't know how long it
was out. But certainly tens of minutes, more likely hours.
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Making a plant illegal is like saying God was wrong
BUT
Making a plant illegal was one of the first things God ever did...
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On 19/08/2026 05:45, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

On 2026/8/18 21:57:41, NY wrote:

On 18/08/2026 20:04, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

From previous experience, it'll be back, though may take many hours.

I received an email on my Plusnet (now Greenby) address at 2044, and
I've just checked again, sending from Gmail to PN, and it's worked.

So maybe it's come back quicker than you feared.

It did come back; since I expected it would and am not expecting any
urgent emails, I didn't check it regularly, so I don't know how long it
was out. But certainly tens of minutes, more likely hours.

We finally took the momentous step today of leaving Plusnet. We're due
to renew in a couple of weeks and PN said there was no forecast for when
fibre would be provided to our village (presumably part of Openreach) so
we switched to an independent company who installed fibre in the village
a few months ago. Just hope they can route the fibre to where we want
the router, because finding any other place for the fibre modem that has
mains and allows us to run Ethernet to the router would be a problem.
We've paid extra for a "bespoke installation" which hopefully means the engineer won't take the easiest approach and then scarper.

PN email safely migrated to Greenby 6 months ago so that will remain
(we'll be charged for it in 18 months time.

PN really are making some strange marketing decisions: getting rid of providing email, usenet and web hosting, and not even offering digital landline phone service (if you want landline phone you have to move to
EE for both phone and broadband). And despite divesting themselves of
those things, their charges are not reducing...

It's a sad day. I've been with PN since 2001 (though we've needed to
change IDs at a couple of house moves) and my parents started with them
in the late 90s - their exchange got ADSL a few years before mine did,
in the days when exchanges needed a "trigger level" of prospective
customers before they would deign to install the ADSL equipment.

Speeds have increased over the years:

8/0.4 at my first house
8/0.4 at my wife's house (that I moved into)
14/5 at that house when we changed to FTTC
1/0.2 at my parents' holiday cottage where we lived for a year till we
found a new house (that was painfully slow!!)
32/9 at our present house with FTTC

1000/1000 when we get FTTP
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On 2026/8/19 14:31:41, NY wrote:
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PN email safely migrated to Greenby 6 months ago so that will remain
(we'll be charged for it in 18 months time.

Will you pay, or are you trying to get all who know it to move to using
another address? (Or is privacy.net not real?)

PN really are making some strange marketing decisions: getting rid of providing email, usenet and web hosting, and not even offering digital landline phone service (if you want landline phone you have to move to
EE for both phone and broadband). And despite divesting themselves of
those things, their charges are not reducing...

[If you do accept the EE shift, what sort of minimum contract do they
impose? (Not expecting NY to know, but anyone?)]

Yes. I could understand them ditching usenet, email, and 'phone (I never
had webspace), i. e. moving towards being a pure ICP (which seems to be
their aim) - _if_ they were indeed to lower their charges.

Maybe big daddy BT are hoping they'll wither, so they can ditch the
brand altogether? Though that wouldn't gel with the fact that they're
still advertising.

It's a sad day. I've been with PN since 2001 (though we've needed to

2007 or later for me, but yes, long enough to have some nostalgia. But
will be quitting, I think.
[]

Speeds have increased over the years:

8/0.4 at my first house
8/0.4 at my wife's house (that I moved into)
14/5 at that house when we changed to FTTC
1/0.2 at my parents' holiday cottage where we lived for a year till we
found a new house (that was painfully slow!!)
32/9 at our present house with FTTC

1000/1000 when we get FTTP

(Presumably that last one not with PN but whoever you've switched to
[who?].) My speeds also increased over the years - until, at one of the biennial haggles, I took a _reduction_ (from 60 to 30 ish, IIRR) to get unlimited 'phone calls; the speed has always been more than I've been
aware of needing (there's only one of me and I don't stream much video,
except from YouTube and that usually in their little window so
presumably not that high a res.). At one point I also stayed on a limited-amount-of-data tariff to save money when most were going to
unlimited, though that's quite a while ago.
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Sometimes I'm so sweet even I can't stand it. ~ Julie Andrews
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On 19/08/2026 21:41, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

On 2026/8/19 14:31:41, NY wrote:

Speeds have increased over the years:

8/0.4 at my first house
8/0.4 at my wife's house (that I moved into)
14/5 at that house when we changed to FTTC
1/0.2 at my parents' holiday cottage where we lived for a year till we
found a new house (that was painfully slow!!)
32/9 at our present house with FTTC

1000/1000 when we get FTTP

(Presumably that last one not with PN but whoever you've switched to
[who?].) My speeds also increased over the years - until, at one of the biennial haggles, I took a _reduction_ (from 60 to 30 ish, IIRR) to get unlimited 'phone calls; the speed has always been more than I've been
aware of needing (there's only one of me and I don't stream much video, except from YouTube and that usually in their little window so
presumably not that high a res.). At one point I also stayed on a limited-amount-of-data tariff to save money when most were going to unlimited, though that's quite a while ago.

I should have added "expected" to the 1000/1000. Our present 32/9 is
nominally "up to 40 Mbps", reduced a bit by length of line to cabinet
and the length of wiring in the house (I've had slightly higher speeds
at another phone socket), but I haven't a clue what order the wiring
runs. There is a large gap of uncertainty between the point where the
drop cable fastens to the house and the various sockets.

The fibre company is Quickline (and not "Quicklime" as I want to call
it!) which in based in Hull (I'm up the coast near Bridlington) and says "Built for Yorkshire & Lincolnshire".
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On 2026/8/19 23:2:38, NY wrote:
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I should have added "expected" to the 1000/1000. Our present 32/9 is nominally "up to 40 Mbps", reduced a bit by length of line to cabinet
and the length of wiring in the house (I've had slightly higher speeds
at another phone socket), but I haven't a clue what order the wiring
runs. There is a large gap of uncertainty between the point where the
drop cable fastens to the house and the various sockets.

Interesting to hear someone actually say they've had a difference; we're
always told be as close to the master socket as possible (or similar
wording), but interesting to hear proof.>

The fibre company is Quickline (and not "Quicklime" as I want to call

:-)

it!) which in based in Hull (I'm up the coast near Bridlington) and says "Built for Yorkshire & Lincolnshire".

Ah. The cable run to Kent might impede a bit.
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

An act like Morecambe and Wise happens once in a lifetime. Why did it
have to happen in mine?
- Bernie Winters quoted by Barry Cryer, RT 2013/11/30-12/6
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On 20/08/2026 02:30, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

On 2026/8/19 23:2:38, NY wrote:
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I should have added "expected" to the 1000/1000. Our present 32/9 is
nominally "up to 40 Mbps", reduced a bit by length of line to cabinet
and the length of wiring in the house (I've had slightly higher speeds
at another phone socket), but I haven't a clue what order the wiring
runs. There is a large gap of uncertainty between the point where the
drop cable fastens to the house and the various sockets.

Interesting to hear someone actually say they've had a difference; we're always told be as close to the master socket as possible (or similar wording), but interesting to hear proof.>

The problem is that in many houses the master socket is nowhere near
where you want to site the router, so it's in the best (most central)
position for wifi coverage and so it's within Ethernet range of
computers that need fast transfer rates to each other.

Also, it helps if you actually *know* which is your master socket. None
of our phone sockets is a "classic" master, with a removable face plate
that disconnects downstream wiring for testing. I even wonder whether we
might have "star" wiring: more than one cable connected in parallel,
with different legs going to different parts of the house, rather than daisy-chain wiring. Soon to be irrelevant for us ;-)

The fibre company is Quickline (and not "Quicklime" as I want to call

:-)

it!) which in based in Hull (I'm up the coast near Bridlington) and says
"Built for Yorkshire & Lincolnshire".

Ah. The cable run to Kent might impede a bit.

It might be a "slight" problem ;-)
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