• Streaming TV Catch Up Service

    From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Sun Jun 14 21:00:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband


    Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I will try.

    I have a new Tp-Link DR3650V-4G Omada 4G+ Cat6 Ax3000 Wi-Fi 6 Gigabit
    Desktop Dsl Gateway 4G+ to give it its full name and it has a Three data
    SIM in it which gives me download speeds of up to 50 Mb/s. I have seen
    that speed once, it usually hovers between 34 Mb/s and 44 Mb/s compare to
    the 10 Mb/s my FTTC ADSL gives me.

    I am trying it since there is no hope of FTTP or higher speeds from FTTC
    here.

    It has been very good but I do notice that streaming ITVX I get some
    buffering and I have had an error dialog pop up on my streaming box. The
    error box did say once it was a problem at their end and try again later, sometime the whole program works fine but not the adverts. When this
    happened I switched to BBC iTunes (is that the right name?) and it was perfectly smooth, no problems.

    I just wondered if people here had streaming problems with ITVX? I don't
    want to jump from poor FTTC to bad mobile Internet.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends
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  • From David Wade@g4ugm@dave.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 09:53:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 14/06/2026 22:00, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I will try.

    I have a new Tp-Link DR3650V-4G Omada 4G+ Cat6 Ax3000 Wi-Fi 6 Gigabit Desktop Dsl Gateway 4G+ to give it its full name and it has a Three data
    SIM in it which gives me download speeds of up to 50 Mb/s. I have seen
    that speed once, it usually hovers between 34 Mb/s and 44 Mb/s compare
    to the 10 Mb/s my FTTC-a ADSL gives me.

    I am trying it since there is no hope of FTTP or higher speeds from FTTC here.

    It has been very good but I do notice that streaming ITVX I get some buffering and I have had an error dialog pop up on my streaming box. The error box did say once it was a problem at their end and try again
    later, sometime the whole program works fine but not the adverts. When
    this happened I switched to BBC iTunes (is that the right name?) and it
    was perfectly smooth, no problems.

    I just wondered if people here had streaming problems with ITVX? I don't want to jump from poor FTTC to bad mobile Internet.


    We often watch various streaming programs via VPN from Spain. Because
    the VPN routes back through my home system it can be bandwidth limited.

    I would say ITVx is the most problematic of the streaming services.
    Oddly for me I tend to get the adverts then the program stalls....


    Dave
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 12:20:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 22:00, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I will try.

    I have a new Tp-Link DR3650V-4G Omada 4G+ Cat6 Ax3000 Wi-Fi 6 Gigabit
    Desktop Dsl Gateway 4G+ to give it its full name and it has a Three data
    SIM in it which gives me download speeds of up to 50 Mb/s. I have seen
    that speed once, it usually hovers between 34 Mb/s and 44 Mb/s compare
    to the 10 Mb/s my FTTC-a ADSL gives me.

    I am trying it since there is no hope of FTTP or higher speeds from FTTC
    here.

    It has been very good but I do notice that streaming ITVX I get some
    buffering and I have had an error dialog pop up on my streaming box. The
    error box did say once it was a problem at their end and try again
    later, sometime the whole program works fine but not the adverts. When
    this happened I switched to BBC iTunes (is that the right name?) and it
    was perfectly smooth, no problems.

    I just wondered if people here had streaming problems with ITVX? I don't
    want to jump from poor FTTC to bad mobile Internet.


    We often watch various streaming programs via VPN from Spain. Because
    the VPN routes back through my home system it can be bandwidth limited.

    I would say ITVx is the most problematic of the streaming services.
    Oddly for me I tend to get the adverts then the program stalls....

    This has been a thing on UK commercial streaming since year dot. It's not stalled, it's just that the advert slot hasn't been filled for whatever
    reason. Wait 30 seconds and the programme or the next advert will continue
    as normal.

    My suspicion, and I'd love it to be confirmed or denied, is that it's some
    sort contractual/technical issue where the ad that was meant to be
    delivered has reached some limit or the delivery server is not ready and so nothing is shown.

    To the OP, I suspect bandwidth on ITVx is being severely challenged by the football. Many games are in the middle of the night so people will be
    streaming it instead.
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 13:41:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 15/06/2026 in message <110oqmf$bgkf$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:

    David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 22:00, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I will try.

    I have a new Tp-Link DR3650V-4G Omada 4G+ Cat6 Ax3000 Wi-Fi 6 Gigabit >>>Desktop Dsl Gateway 4G+ to give it its full name and it has a Three data >>>SIM in it which gives me download speeds of up to 50 Mb/s. I have seen >>>that speed once, it usually hovers between 34 Mb/s and 44 Mb/s compare
    to the 10 Mb/s my FTTC-a ADSL gives me.

    I am trying it since there is no hope of FTTP or higher speeds from FTTC >>>here.

    It has been very good but I do notice that streaming ITVX I get some >>>buffering and I have had an error dialog pop up on my streaming box. The >>>error box did say once it was a problem at their end and try again
    later, sometime the whole program works fine but not the adverts. When >>>this happened I switched to BBC iTunes (is that the right name?) and it >>>was perfectly smooth, no problems.

    I just wondered if people here had streaming problems with ITVX? I don't >>>want to jump from poor FTTC to bad mobile Internet.


    We often watch various streaming programs via VPN from Spain. Because
    the VPN routes back through my home system it can be bandwidth limited.

    I would say ITVx is the most problematic of the streaming services.
    Oddly for me I tend to get the adverts then the program stalls....

    This has been a thing on UK commercial streaming since year dot. It's not >stalled, it's just that the advert slot hasn't been filled for whatever >reason. Wait 30 seconds and the programme or the next advert will continue
    as normal.

    My suspicion, and I'd love it to be confirmed or denied, is that it's some >sort contractual/technical issue where the ad that was meant to be
    delivered has reached some limit or the delivery server is not ready and so >nothing is shown.

    To the OP, I suspect bandwidth on ITVx is being severely challenged by the >football. Many games are in the middle of the night so people will be >streaming it instead.

    Many thanks for the input :-)

    I have just spent 1.5 hours on the 'phone to Plusnet, charming lady, very patient. Ran all sorts of tests but 11 Mb/s is absolute max.

    In the end they agreed to send an Openreach engineer, they seem to hate
    doing that I expect it costs. Unless he can magically connect me to fibre
    I suspect it won't make any odds.

    As far as ITVX is concerned it is behaving exactly as David and Chris say
    so I think it's them rather than me.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There are 10 types of people in the world, those who do binary and those
    who don't.
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 15:37:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    Many thanks for the input :-)

    I have just spent 1.5 hours on the 'phone to Plusnet, charming lady, very patient. Ran all sorts of tests but 11 Mb/s is absolute max.

    In the end they agreed to send an Openreach engineer, they seem to hate doing that I expect it costs. Unless he can magically connect me to fibre
    I suspect it won't make any odds.

    As far as ITVX is concerned it is behaving exactly as David and Chris say
    so I think it's them rather than me.

    I would make the point that you can be connected to fibre without going over the third party land, and would the engineer please update the database so
    you can order it? Anything else is going to be kicking the can down the
    road as your copper continues to degrade. Eventually it'll stop working.
    You can go for mobile or Starlink or whatever, but it'll be a much worse
    (and more expensive) experience than FTTP.

    Theo
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 14:44:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 15/06/2026 in message <-7F*doaJA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    Many thanks for the input :-)

    I have just spent 1.5 hours on the 'phone to Plusnet, charming lady, very >>patient. Ran all sorts of tests but 11 Mb/s is absolute max.

    In the end they agreed to send an Openreach engineer, they seem to hate >>doing that I expect it costs. Unless he can magically connect me to fibre
    I suspect it won't make any odds.

    As far as ITVX is concerned it is behaving exactly as David and Chris say >>so I think it's them rather than me.

    I would make the point that you can be connected to fibre without going
    over
    the third party land, and would the engineer please update the database so >you can order it? Anything else is going to be kicking the can down the
    road as your copper continues to degrade. Eventually it'll stop working.
    You can go for mobile or Starlink or whatever, but it'll be a much worse
    (and more expensive) experience than FTTP.

    I hope I get an engineer who will listen but it will be apparent to him
    that fibre is no more difficult than for other houses in the road.

    Do chocolate biscuits still work because as you say if he won't update
    their database fibre will continue to be a no no.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Captcha is thinking of stopping the use of pictures with traffic lights as cyclists don't know what they are.
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 15:49:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/06/2026 in message <-7F*doaJA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    Many thanks for the input :-)

    I have just spent 1.5 hours on the 'phone to Plusnet, charming lady, very >>patient. Ran all sorts of tests but 11 Mb/s is absolute max.

    In the end they agreed to send an Openreach engineer, they seem to hate >>doing that I expect it costs. Unless he can magically connect me to fibre >>I suspect it won't make any odds.

    As far as ITVX is concerned it is behaving exactly as David and Chris say >>so I think it's them rather than me.

    I would make the point that you can be connected to fibre without going >over
    the third party land, and would the engineer please update the database so >you can order it? Anything else is going to be kicking the can down the >road as your copper continues to degrade. Eventually it'll stop working. >You can go for mobile or Starlink or whatever, but it'll be a much worse >(and more expensive) experience than FTTP.

    I hope I get an engineer who will listen but it will be apparent to him
    that fibre is no more difficult than for other houses in the road.

    Do chocolate biscuits still work because as you say if he won't update
    their database fibre will continue to be a no no.

    I would say that you'd really like to order fibre, and if they can update
    the database then you're happy and they don't need to spend time fixing up
    your dodgy copper. They get to go home earlier, you get fibre, everyone's happy.

    Theo
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 17:58:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/06/2026 in message <-7F*doaJA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote: >>
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    Many thanks for the input :-)

    I have just spent 1.5 hours on the 'phone to Plusnet, charming lady, very >>>> patient. Ran all sorts of tests but 11 Mb/s is absolute max.

    In the end they agreed to send an Openreach engineer, they seem to hate >>>> doing that I expect it costs. Unless he can magically connect me to fibre >>>> I suspect it won't make any odds.

    As far as ITVX is concerned it is behaving exactly as David and Chris say >>>> so I think it's them rather than me.

    I would make the point that you can be connected to fibre without going >>> over
    the third party land, and would the engineer please update the database so >>> you can order it? Anything else is going to be kicking the can down the >>> road as your copper continues to degrade. Eventually it'll stop working. >>> You can go for mobile or Starlink or whatever, but it'll be a much worse >>> (and more expensive) experience than FTTP.

    I hope I get an engineer who will listen but it will be apparent to him
    that fibre is no more difficult than for other houses in the road.

    Do chocolate biscuits still work because as you say if he won't update
    their database fibre will continue to be a no no.

    I would say that you'd really like to order fibre, and if they can update
    the database then you're happy and they don't need to spend time fixing up your dodgy copper. They get to go home earlier, you get fibre, everyone's happy.

    Theo


    My route to fibre goodness was to fill in the form I referenced earlier,
    and when you get a negative response is to then follow the complaints
    process they reference in said rejection. I doubt that the copper faults technician they will be sending out has much influence over the fibre side
    of things. Though you might ask him if he has any email/mobile phone
    contacts within OR that might get to someone with influence.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jun 15 20:44:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 15/06/2026 in message <110pefu$hvsh$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/06/2026 in message <-7F*doaJA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo >>>wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    Many thanks for the input :-)

    I have just spent 1.5 hours on the 'phone to Plusnet, charming lady, >>>>>very
    patient. Ran all sorts of tests but 11 Mb/s is absolute max.

    In the end they agreed to send an Openreach engineer, they seem to hate >>>>>doing that I expect it costs. Unless he can magically connect me to >>>>>fibre
    I suspect it won't make any odds.

    As far as ITVX is concerned it is behaving exactly as David and Chris >>>>>say
    so I think it's them rather than me.

    I would make the point that you can be connected to fibre without going >>>>over
    the third party land, and would the engineer please update the database >>>>so
    you can order it? Anything else is going to be kicking the can down the >>>>road as your copper continues to degrade. Eventually it'll stop >>>>working.
    You can go for mobile or Starlink or whatever, but it'll be a much worse >>>>(and more expensive) experience than FTTP.

    I hope I get an engineer who will listen but it will be apparent to him >>>that fibre is no more difficult than for other houses in the road.

    Do chocolate biscuits still work because as you say if he won't update >>>their database fibre will continue to be a no no.

    I would say that you'd really like to order fibre, and if they can update >>the database then you're happy and they don't need to spend time fixing up >>your dodgy copper. They get to go home earlier, you get fibre, everyone's >>happy.

    Theo


    My route to fibre goodness was to fill in the form I referenced earlier,
    and when you get a negative response is to then follow the complaints
    process they reference in said rejection. I doubt that the copper faults >technician they will be sending out has much influence over the fibre side
    of things. Though you might ask him if he has any email/mobile phone
    contacts within OR that might get to someone with influence.

    I got the standard brush off from my enquiry so I'll give the engineer a chance then follow the complaints procedure as you suggested.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.
    (Ken Olson, president Digital Equipment, 1977)
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 13:58:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 15/06/2026 in message <xn0pr2d1m68qnqc00j@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    My route to fibre goodness was to fill in the form I referenced earlier, >>and when you get a negative response is to then follow the complaints >>process they reference in said rejection. I doubt that the copper faults >>technician they will be sending out has much influence over the fibre side >>of things. Though you might ask him if he has any email/mobile phone >>contacts within OR that might get to someone with influence.

    I got the standard brush off from my enquiry so I'll give the engineer a >chance then follow the complaints procedure as you suggested.

    OR Engineer has found a break in the line 60 metres away, he's gone to
    look for it, said he hopes they don't have to dig...
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    I've been through the desert on a horse with no name.
    It was a right bugger to get him back when he ran off.
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 14:05:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/06/2026 in message <xn0pr2d1m68qnqc00j@news.individual.net> Jeff Gaines wrote:

    My route to fibre goodness was to fill in the form I referenced earlier, >>> and when you get a negative response is to then follow the complaints
    process they reference in said rejection. I doubt that the copper faults >>> technician they will be sending out has much influence over the fibre side >>> of things. Though you might ask him if he has any email/mobile phone
    contacts within OR that might get to someone with influence.

    I got the standard brush off from my enquiry so I'll give the engineer a
    chance then follow the complaints procedure as you suggested.

    OR Engineer has found a break in the line 60 metres away, he's gone to
    look for it, said he hopes they don't have to dig...


    Tell him a fibre install is easierrCarCa.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 14:14:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 17/06/2026 in message <110u9ik$1th32$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/06/2026 in message <xn0pr2d1m68qnqc00j@news.individual.net> Jeff >>Gaines wrote:

    My route to fibre goodness was to fill in the form I referenced earlier, >>>>and when you get a negative response is to then follow the complaints >>>>process they reference in said rejection. I doubt that the copper faults >>>>technician they will be sending out has much influence over the fibre >>>>side
    of things. Though you might ask him if he has any email/mobile phone >>>>contacts within OR that might get to someone with influence.

    I got the standard brush off from my enquiry so I'll give the engineer a >>>chance then follow the complaints procedure as you suggested.

    OR Engineer has found a break in the line 60 metres away, he's gone to
    look for it, said he hopes they don't have to dig...


    Tell him a fibre install is easierrCarCa.

    I asked him if the manhole contained fibre, he said he would need to look.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    When you think there's no hope left remember the lobsters in the tank in
    the Titanic's restaurant.
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 14:51:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 17/06/2026 in message <xn0pr4vz08ppf1300q@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    On 17/06/2026 in message <110u9ik$1th32$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/06/2026 in message <xn0pr2d1m68qnqc00j@news.individual.net> Jeff >>>Gaines wrote:

    My route to fibre goodness was to fill in the form I referenced >>>>>earlier,
    and when you get a negative response is to then follow the complaints >>>>>process they reference in said rejection. I doubt that the copper >>>>>faults
    technician they will be sending out has much influence over the fibre >>>>>side
    of things. Though you might ask him if he has any email/mobile phone >>>>>contacts within OR that might get to someone with influence.

    I got the standard brush off from my enquiry so I'll give the engineer a >>>>chance then follow the complaints procedure as you suggested.

    OR Engineer has found a break in the line 60 metres away, he's gone to >>>look for it, said he hopes they don't have to dig...


    Tell him a fibre install is easierrCarCa.

    I asked him if the manhole contained fibre, he said he would need to look.

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first
    moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong
    with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Though no-one can go back and make a new start, everyone can start from
    now and make a new ending.
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 15:22:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 17/06/2026 in message <xn0pr4vz08ppf1300q@news.individual.net> Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 17/06/2026 in message <110u9ik$1th32$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/06/2026 in message <xn0pr2d1m68qnqc00j@news.individual.net> Jeff >>>> Gaines wrote:

    My route to fibre goodness was to fill in the form I referenced
    earlier,
    and when you get a negative response is to then follow the complaints >>>>>> process they reference in said rejection. I doubt that the copper >>>>>> faults
    technician they will be sending out has much influence over the fibre >>>>>> side
    of things. Though you might ask him if he has any email/mobile phone >>>>>> contacts within OR that might get to someone with influence.

    I got the standard brush off from my enquiry so I'll give the engineer a >>>>> chance then follow the complaints procedure as you suggested.

    OR Engineer has found a break in the line 60 metres away, he's gone to >>>> look for it, said he hopes they don't have to dig...


    Tell him a fibre install is easierrCarCa.

    I asked him if the manhole contained fibre, he said he would need to look.

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first
    moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.


    Did you get any more information about how you might get fibre?

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  • From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 16:35:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    [snip]

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first
    moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.


    Fundamental problem with Plusnet. This is why we here recommend A&A or Zen.
    --
    Graham J
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  • From Mister Johnson@root@example.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 17:19:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 2026-06-17, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    [snip]

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first
    moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong
    with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.


    Fundamental problem with Plusnet. This is why we here recommend A&A or Zen.


    and Aquiss, IDNet
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 17:40:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Mister Johnson <root@example.net> wrote:
    On 2026-06-17, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    [snip]

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first
    moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong >>> with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.


    Fundamental problem with Plusnet. This is why we here recommend A&A or Zen. >>

    and Aquiss, IDNet


    IrCOd second A&A and IDNet. Not so keen on Zen these days, starting to suffer large company syndrome.
    Going for cheapness over quality seems to be a British thing, not just for Broadband. See also quality of buildings vs the continent.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jun 17 18:31:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 17/06/2026 in message <110ue3u$1v08h$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first
    moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong >>with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.


    Did you get any more information about how you might get fibre?

    No, he was off like a rocket, had several more jobs on. If it stays at 32
    Mb/s it'll be fine for me.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th birthday. (Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Thu Jun 18 07:34:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 17/06/2026 in message <xn0pr52pe8yvhyo00s@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    On 17/06/2026 in message <110ue3u$1v08h$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first >>>moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong >>>with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.


    Did you get any more information about how you might get fibre?

    No, he was off like a rocket, had several more jobs on. If it stays at 32 >Mb/s it'll be fine for me.

    I forgot to add he said if the line still provided a voice service the
    fault would have been evident with either no or a severely degraded dial
    tone.
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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Did you know on the Canary Islands there is not one canary?
    And on the Virgin Islands same thing, not one canary.
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Thu Jun 18 07:46:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 17/06/2026 in message <xn0pr52pe8yvhyo00s@news.individual.net> Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 17/06/2026 in message <110ue3u$1v08h$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

    He's back, found it, I am at 32 Mb/s which is what I had when I first
    moved here 4 years ago. All the times I was told there was nothing wrong >>>> with the line because Plusnet didn't want to pay for an engineer.


    Did you get any more information about how you might get fibre?

    No, he was off like a rocket, had several more jobs on. If it stays at 32 >> Mb/s it'll be fine for me.

    I forgot to add he said if the line still provided a voice service the
    fault would have been evident with either no or a severely degraded dial tone.


    ThatrCOs the trouble with DSL technology, itrCOs pretty good at working over degraded lines without stopping dead. A&A once demonstrated a connection
    over a pair consisting of wet string. Mind you, your fault doesnrCOt say much for line monitoring. A proper system ought to have picked up such a
    significant drop in performance.

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