• Re: BBC Four: DOCUMENTARY: Time Shift - Dial "B" for Britain

    From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Fri Mar 13 09:25:40 2026
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    On 12/03/2026 17:35, David Wade wrote:
    Not the same as a manual exchange, pre STD we needed an operator to call
    my aunt in Purley from Staindrop, but we could ring the local milkman
    who brought the papers as well...


    At Portree there were no dials, all calls were through the operator.



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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Fri Mar 13 09:30:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 12/03/2026 19:45, Woody wrote:
    I can remember too when STD started around 1960 in our area. We got our first phone in 1959 and it already had a concatenated number - the area dialling code from the city to our suburb was 81 so we got a six digit number starting 81. The last four digits still exist but the area code
    is now 67.


    That is telephone people still often think of '999' as '9 99'. The
    initial '9' connected you to the parent exchange then '99' connected to
    the emergency operator.

    A Post Office friend must have made thousands of '999' calls because it
    was part of the routine maintenance at a telephone exchange.


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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.telecom on Fri Mar 13 13:50:36 2026
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    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 09:24:39 +0000
    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 12/03/2026 16:16, Richmond wrote:
    "The GPO's last manual exchange in the UK, at Portpatrick in
    Scotland, didn't close until 1976, though by that point it was very
    much a curiosity."

    Is anyone here old enough to remember using a manual exchange?
    e.g. booking a long distance call...


    I thought it was Portree? When we went to our site near there, we
    had make all calls through the operator.

    We also had automatic fault reporting equipment at the site which
    also had to make calls through the operator!




    That is as good as my sighting of a sign at a US Ford plant saying:
    "Waiting Area for Just-in-Time Trucks".
    --
    Davey,

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  • From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to uk.telecom on Sat Mar 14 00:33:56 2026
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    Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> writes:

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 16:16:45 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:

    David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> writes:

    On 12/03/2026 11:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 11/03/2026 21:05, Richmond wrote:
    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> writes:

    On at 20:00h


    DOCUMENTARY: Time Shift On: BBC Four Date: Wednesday 11th March


    Interesting.... .. any way it was nice to see my old boss Nigel
    Linge in there

    Dave

    "The GPO's last manual exchange in the UK, at Portpatrick in Scotland, >>didn't close until 1976, though by that point it was very much a >>curiosity."


    This fascinating documentary is about the decomissioning of London's
    last manual exchange.

    https://youtu.be/OqrfBjZCiVQ?si=8sYuZEUpqK8kaVBG

    Here there is a plug or blocker in one of the sockets with 8875 written
    on it, what does that mean? Other blockers are plain black, which
    presumably show unused lines.

    https://youtu.be/OqrfBjZCiVQ?t=549
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Sat Mar 14 09:17:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/3/13 9:24:39, JMB99 wrote:
    On 12/03/2026 16:16, Richmond wrote:
    "The GPO's last manual exchange in the UK, at Portpatrick in Scotland,
    didn't close until 1976, though by that point it was very much a
    curiosity."

    Is anyone here old enough to remember using a manual exchange?
    e.g. booking a long distance call...


    I thought it was Portree? When we went to our site near there, we had
    make all calls through the operator.

    We also had automatic fault reporting equipment at the site which also
    had to make calls through the operator!



    That reminds me of something I saw on TV many years ago: a very early
    automated burglar alarm, which incorporated both a mechanism to dial
    999, and a gramophone recording (obviously, with player) that told the emergency operator the address and that a burglary was in progress.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    She didn't strike me as much of a reader. It's never a good sign if
    someone has a leaflet with a bookmark in it.
    - Sarah Millican in Rdio Times, 17-23 November 2012
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.telecom on Sat Mar 14 12:32:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On 2026/3/13 9:24:39, JMB99 wrote:
    On 12/03/2026 16:16, Richmond wrote:
    "The GPO's last manual exchange in the UK, at Portpatrick in Scotland,
    didn't close until 1976, though by that point it was very much a
    curiosity."

    Is anyone here old enough to remember using a manual exchange?
    e.g. booking a long distance call...


    I thought it was Portree? When we went to our site near there, we had
    make all calls through the operator.

    We also had automatic fault reporting equipment at the site which also
    had to make calls through the operator!



    That reminds me of something I saw on TV many years ago: a very early automated burglar alarm, which incorporated both a mechanism to dial
    999, and a gramophone recording (obviously, with player) that told the emergency operator the address and that a burglary was in progress.

    I have one of the records - and one of the machines turned up at an
    auction a couple of years ago.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Sat Mar 14 13:06:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 14/03/2026 09:17, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    That reminds me of something I saw on TV many years ago: a very early automated burglar alarm, which incorporated both a mechanism to dial
    999, and a gramophone recording (obviously, with player) that told the emergency operator the address and that a burglary was in progress.


    There is classic old (alleged) story about when there was a fire
    somewhere and fire alarm system had a similar recording to call the fire brigade but got a recorded message to call another number.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Sat Mar 14 14:35:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/3/14 12:32:29, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On 2026/3/13 9:24:39, JMB99 wrote:
    []
    We also had automatic fault reporting equipment at the site which also
    had to make calls through the operator!

    (How _did_ that work - did it use a recording, as below?)


    That reminds me of something I saw on TV many years ago: a very early
    automated burglar alarm, which incorporated both a mechanism to dial
    999, and a gramophone recording (obviously, with player) that told the
    emergency operator the address and that a burglary was in progress.

    I have one of the records - and one of the machines turned up at an
    auction a couple of years ago.


    If I'd had to guess who might have one, I'd have guessed you! :-)

    (What exactly _does_ it say? I only saw the thing once, many years ago.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    An Englishman thinks a hundred miles is a long way; an American thinks
    a hundred years is a long time.
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.telecom on Sat Mar 14 14:57:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On 2026/3/14 12:32:29, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On 2026/3/13 9:24:39, JMB99 wrote:
    []
    We also had automatic fault reporting equipment at the site which also >>> had to make calls through the operator!

    (How _did_ that work - did it use a recording, as below?)


    That reminds me of something I saw on TV many years ago: a very early
    automated burglar alarm, which incorporated both a mechanism to dial
    999, and a gramophone recording (obviously, with player) that told the
    emergency operator the address and that a burglary was in progress.

    I have one of the records - and one of the machines turned up at an
    auction a couple of years ago.


    If I'd had to guess who might have one, I'd have guessed you! :-)

    (What exactly _does_ it say? I only saw the thing once, many years ago.)

    [Super posh female voice...]

    Peo - lees ! Peo - lees ! Peo - lees !
    This is a Burgot beuglah alahm.
    There is an intrudah on the premise of Messers XXX at YYY Street,
    Bristol.

    Peo - lees ! Peo - lees ! Peo - lees !
    This is a Burgot beuglah alahm
    There is an intrudah on the premise of Messers XXX at YYY Street,
    Bristol.

    Peo - lees ! Peo - lees ! Peo - lees !
    This is a Burgot beuglah alahm
    There is an intrudah on the premise of Messers XXX at YYY Street,
    Bristol.

    Peo - lees ! Peo - lees ! Peo - lees !
    This is a Burgot beuglah alahm
    There is an intrudah on the premise of Messers XXX at YYY Street,
    Bristol.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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