Anyone experienced anything like this with their Digital Voice DECT answerphone?
Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone experienced anything like this with their Digital Voice DECT
answerphone?
No, but my setup isn't directly comparable to yours ...
I have VoIP service from voipfone instead of Digital Voice from my ISP,
with a Gigaset DX800a (combined desk phone, DECT base and answer machine).
The Gigaset no longer uses any RJ11 or BT431A connection as its "phone
line", it has an ethernet connection.
Andy Burns wrote:
Gigaset DX800a (combined desk phone, DECT base and answer
machine).
That's an impressive feature-rich phone (with a price to match)!
I see that, according to the Amazon reviews page, it requires
"converters" to work in the UK as it's meant for use in Germany.
The Gigaset no longer uses any RJ11 or BT431A connection as its "phone
line", it has an ethernet connection.
I don't use the ethernet capabilities of the Fritz!Box now, although I
have used it in the past with an old Panasonic PVR which didn't have
WiFi. The Fritz!Box has a DECT facility to connect directly to the
handset (if it's compatible - I haven't checked yet). However, staying
with with RJ11 connection I might set up the Fritz!Box's answerphone facility just to see if that records the engaged tone as well. If it
does, that would suggest that the issue lies in whatever Zen is using to connect to my Digital Voice phone.
"exchange" somewhere? If not, how does "the system" know how to connect anyone phoning me from their phone - DV or otherwise - to my DV phone?
got a dialling tone on the DECT handset. As I keyed a number, I heard
the tones when the keys were pressed; after a few seconds I heard an
engaged tone. When I tried again a few minutes later the same thing
happened, and again with a different number. I contacted the first
number with my mobile without problem, and was told the phone hadn't
been engaged. I then called my mobile from the DECT phone. I could
hear ringing tones on my DECT phone, but the mobile didn't ring.
Anyone experienced anything like this with their Digital Voice DECT answerphone? The Fritz!Box does have an answerphone facility, but it's more awkward to use than the DECT answerphone.
On 20/05/2026 22:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone experienced anything like this with their Digital Voice DECT answerphone? The Fritz!Box does have an answerphone facility, but
it's more awkward to use than the DECT answerphone.
Have you tried pairing your phone with the built in DECT of the
Fritz!Box? https://www.zen.co.uk/help-support/pair-dect
(I'm not with zen, my panasonic DECT phones have better audio
connected to the router's DECT, but can only save the CLID with a
wired connection).
Jeff Layman wrote:
I'm afraid that I'm ignorant of how DV actually works. Is there still
an "exchange" somewhere? If not, how does "the system" know how to
connect anyone phoning me from their phone - DV or otherwise - to my DV phone?
I don't know all the details, but in effect your phone number is
looked-up in a database and "redirected" to a VoIP gateway, to be
delivered over a second VLAN on PPPoE over your FTTC connection, the
router then breaks that out to its analogue (FXS) port ... something
like that.
I've just changed from analogue (BT) to Digital Voice (Zen. I've been
using them as my ISP for 10 years. FTTC for the last two years). The
phone is a Panasonic DECT Cordless KX-TG8062E, 13 years old.
It wasn't without issue. Firstly, I hadn't noticed that the phone plug
to the NTE5 (431A) and that to the Fritz!Box router (RJ11-4) weren't the same! At first I couldn't find the 431A - RJ11 adaptor, so used a spare RJ11-4 - RJ11-4 cable I had. After rebooting the router, I soon got a dialling tone on the DECT handset. As I keyed a number, I heard the
tones when the keys were pressed; after a few seconds I heard an engaged tone. When I tried again a few minutes later the same thing happened,
and again with a different number. I contacted the first number with my mobile without problem, and was told the phone hadn't been engaged. I
then called my mobile from the DECT phone. I could hear ringing tones on
my DECT phone, but the mobile didn't ring.
I emailed Zen, and they replied quickly that there had been "an issue
with the finalisation" (whatever that means). Next morning, I was able
to call and receive calls without problem. So the issue was resolved by
Zen within a few hours.
There remains a strange problem, though, when using the DECT
answerphone. This had always worked without problem when analogue, but I tried it calling the phone from my mobile, and letting it go to
answerphone mode. After recording a few words, I touched "end call" on
the mobile. I immediately heard about a half-dozen or so "engaged" tones
on the mobile before the call disconnected. Even more oddly, when I
played back my recorded words the engaged tones had been recorded too!
Anyone experienced anything like this with their Digital Voice DECT answerphone? The Fritz!Box does have an answerphone facility, but it's
more awkward to use than the DECT answerphone.
Anyway, I'm pleased that I took the decision to get Digital Voice now. I wonder what will happen when the rush happens next year and there are similar problems to those I had to be sorted out with a large number of customers.
Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
Subject: Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 19:08:33 +0100
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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
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On 20/05/2026 22:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
I've just changed from analogue (BT) to Digital Voice (Zen. I've
been using them as my ISP for 10 years. FTTC for the last two
years). The phone is a Panasonic DECT Cordless KX-TG8062E, 13 years
old.
It wasn't without issue. Firstly, I hadn't noticed that the phone
plug to the NTE5 (431A) and that to the Fritz!Box router (RJ11-4)
weren't the same! At first I couldn't find the 431A - RJ11 adaptor,
so used a spare RJ11-4 - RJ11-4 cable I had. After rebooting the
router, I soon got a dialling tone on the DECT handset. As I keyed
a number, I heard the tones when the keys were pressed; after a few
seconds I heard an engaged tone. When I tried again a few minutes
later the same thing happened, and again with a different number. I contacted the first number with my mobile without problem, and was
told the phone hadn't been engaged. I then called my mobile from
the DECT phone. I could hear ringing tones on my DECT phone, but
the mobile didn't ring.
I emailed Zen, and they replied quickly that there had been "an
issue with the finalisation" (whatever that means). Next morning, I
was able to call and receive calls without problem. So the issue
was resolved by Zen within a few hours.
There remains a strange problem, though, when using the DECT
answerphone. This had always worked without problem when analogue,
but I tried it calling the phone from my mobile, and letting it go
to answerphone mode. After recording a few words, I touched "end
call" on the mobile. I immediately heard about a half-dozen or so
"engaged" tones on the mobile before the call disconnected. Even
more oddly, when I played back my recorded words the engaged tones
had been recorded too!
Widely reported problem with answerphones and the Fritz!box.
On Thu, 21 May 2026 19:08:33 +0100
David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> wrote:
Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
Subject: Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 19:08:33 +0100
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Organisation: A noiseless patient Spider
On 20/05/2026 22:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
I've just changed from analogue (BT) to Digital Voice (Zen. I've
been using them as my ISP for 10 years. FTTC for the last two
years). The phone is a Panasonic DECT Cordless KX-TG8062E, 13 years
old.
It wasn't without issue. Firstly, I hadn't noticed that the phone
plug to the NTE5 (431A) and that to the Fritz!Box router (RJ11-4)
weren't the same! At first I couldn't find the 431A - RJ11 adaptor,
so used a spare RJ11-4 - RJ11-4 cable I had. After rebooting the
router, I soon got a dialling tone on the DECT handset. As I keyed
a number, I heard the tones when the keys were pressed; after a few
seconds I heard an engaged tone. When I tried again a few minutes
later the same thing happened, and again with a different number. I
contacted the first number with my mobile without problem, and was
told the phone hadn't been engaged. I then called my mobile from
the DECT phone. I could hear ringing tones on my DECT phone, but
the mobile didn't ring.
I emailed Zen, and they replied quickly that there had been "an
issue with the finalisation" (whatever that means). Next morning, I
was able to call and receive calls without problem. So the issue
was resolved by Zen within a few hours.
There remains a strange problem, though, when using the DECT
answerphone. This had always worked without problem when analogue,
but I tried it calling the phone from my mobile, and letting it go
to answerphone mode. After recording a few words, I touched "end
call" on the mobile. I immediately heard about a half-dozen or so
"engaged" tones on the mobile before the call disconnected. Even
more oddly, when I played back my recorded words the engaged tones
had been recorded too!
Widely reported problem with answerphones and the Fritz!box.
Thankfully I have never had that problem.
Your router keeps registered with your ISP's SIP server. I'm not sure there's VLANs involved, at least for some ISPs you can connect over the internet if you can find out the login details (which they try to hide from you).
The ISP server looks up the number in the database, finds which client it needs to talk to. It sends a message to the SIP client in your router
On Thu, 21 May 2026 10:27:29 +0100
Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:
On 20/05/2026 22:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone experienced anything like this with their Digital Voice DECT
answerphone? The Fritz!Box does have an answerphone facility, but
it's more awkward to use than the DECT answerphone.
Have you tried pairing your phone with the built in DECT of the
Fritz!Box? https://www.zen.co.uk/help-support/pair-dect
(I'm not with zen, my panasonic DECT phones have better audio
connected to the router's DECT, but can only save the CLID with a
wired connection).
I am with Zen and Digital Voice, and I have 4 Panasonic DECT handsets,
with the base station plugged into the FON socket on the Fritz!Box. They >perform as expected, I use the handsets' answering machine, and I see
the full (apparent) calling number displayed with no problem.
So it can work.
On Thu, 21 May 2026 10:37:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2026 10:27:29 +0100
Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:
On 20/05/2026 22:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone experienced anything like this with their Digital Voice
DECT answerphone? The Fritz!Box does have an answerphone
facility, but it's more awkward to use than the DECT
answerphone.
Have you tried pairing your phone with the built in DECT of the
Fritz!Box? https://www.zen.co.uk/help-support/pair-dect
(I'm not with zen, my panasonic DECT phones have better audio
connected to the router's DECT, but can only save the CLID with a
wired connection).
I am with Zen and Digital Voice, and I have 4 Panasonic DECT
handsets, with the base station plugged into the FON socket on the >Fritz!Box. They perform as expected, I use the handsets' answering
machine, and I see the full (apparent) calling number displayed with
no problem. So it can work.
Similar here, but I soon threw out my Panasonic DECT base station and connected my Panasonic and Siemens handsets to the Fritz!Box's DECT
base station. All worked correctly.
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline
calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics and
added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to divert to answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I
have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed, then
the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen the call. I
see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an advantage either. Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside
handset as an alarm clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I
have the 'phone right there with me.
Horses for courses.
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline
calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics and
added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to divert to
answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I
have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed, then
the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen the call. I
see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an advantage either. >Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside
handset as an alarm clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I
have the 'phone right there with me.
Horses for courses.
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline
calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics and
added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to divert to
answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I
have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed, then
the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen the call. I
see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an advantage either.
Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside
handset as an alarm clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I
have the 'phone right there with me.
Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline
calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics
and added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to
divert to answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the
Fritz!FON, so I have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed,
then the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen
the call. I see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an
advantage either. Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory.
I use my bedside handset as an alarm clock, and if the
Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I have the 'phone right there with
me. Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the DECT handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio connection to
the DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's working at present -
the "engaged" tone with answerphone is a minor annoyance - and CLI
still works well. I asked Zen Support if, when using the Fritz!Box in answerphone mode, the Fon led lights up when a recorded message is
left, but haven't had a reply.
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline
calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics
and added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to
divert to answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the
Fritz!FON, so I have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed,
then the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen
the call. I see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an
advantage either. Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory.
I use my bedside handset as an alarm clock, and if the
Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I have the 'phone right there with
me. Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the DECT
handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio connection to
the DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's working at present -
the "engaged" tone with answerphone is a minor annoyance - and CLI
still works well. I asked Zen Support if, when using the Fritz!Box in
answerphone mode, the Fon led lights up when a recorded message is
left, but haven't had a reply.
According to the manual:
"Fon/DECT LED:
flashing. Messages in your voice mailbox.
(Function must be supported by the telephony provider.)
off. No devices registering ".
On 24/05/2026 13:36, Davey wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming
landline calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the
Panasonics and added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the
Fritx!Box to divert to answerphone after 10s and play the audio
through the Fritz!FON, so I have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum
allowed, then the answering machine part answers, and allows me
to screen the call. I see nothing wrong with your setup, but I
don't see an advantage either. Except probably a bigger 'Barred'
number memory. I use my bedside handset as an alarm clock, and
if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I have the 'phone right
there with me. Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the
DECT handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio
connection to the DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's
working at present - the "engaged" tone with answerphone is a
minor annoyance - and CLI still works well. I asked Zen Support
if, when using the Fritz!Box in answerphone mode, the Fon led
lights up when a recorded message is left, but haven't had a reply.
According to the manual:
"Fon/DECT LED:
flashing. Messages in your voice mailbox.
(Function must be supported by the telephony provider.)
off. No devices registering ".
Yep. That's what I found in the manual, so asked Zen (the "telephony provider") before I bothered fiddling with the Fritz!Box's
answerphone. If it doesn't work, there's no point in using it - the Panasonic's led lights when there's a message waiting.
On Sun, 24 May 2026 15:24:02 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 13:36, Davey wrote:It Flashes, even. The other handsets display it at the bottom of the
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming
landline calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the
Panasonics and added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the
Fritx!Box to divert to answerphone after 10s and play the audio
through the Fritz!FON, so I have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum
allowed, then the answering machine part answers, and allows me
to screen the call. I see nothing wrong with your setup, but I
don't see an advantage either. Except probably a bigger 'Barred'
number memory. I use my bedside handset as an alarm clock, and
if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I have the 'phone right
there with me. Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the
DECT handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio
connection to the DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's
working at present - the "engaged" tone with answerphone is a
minor annoyance - and CLI still works well. I asked Zen Support
if, when using the Fritz!Box in answerphone mode, the Fon led
lights up when a recorded message is left, but haven't had a reply.
According to the manual:
"Fon/DECT LED:
flashing. Messages in your voice mailbox.
(Function must be supported by the telephony provider.)
off. No devices registering ".
Yep. That's what I found in the manual, so asked Zen (the "telephony
provider") before I bothered fiddling with the Fritz!Box's
answerphone. If it doesn't work, there's no point in using it - the
Panasonic's led lights when there's a message waiting.
tiny screen, you have to check closely to see it.
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline
calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics and
added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to divert to
answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I
have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed, then
the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen the call. I
see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an advantage either.
Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside
handset as an alarm clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I
have the 'phone right there with me.
Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the DECT >handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio connection to the
DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's working at present - the
"engaged" tone with answerphone is a minor annoyance - and CLI still
works well. I asked Zen Support if, when using the Fritz!Box in
answerphone mode, the Fon led lights up when a recorded message is left,
but haven't had a reply.
On Sun, 24 May 2026 16:41:18 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2026 15:24:02 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 13:36, Davey wrote:It Flashes, even. The other handsets display it at the bottom of the
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey
<davey@example.invalid> wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming
landline calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of
the Panasonics and added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured
the Fritx!Box to divert to answerphone after 10s and play
the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum
allowed, then the answering machine part answers, and allows
me to screen the call. I see nothing wrong with your setup,
but I don't see an advantage either. Except probably a bigger
'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside handset as an alarm
clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I have the
'phone right there with me. Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to
keep a redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything
physically into the router, which is in a room that doesn't
need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the
DECT handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio
connection to the DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's
working at present - the "engaged" tone with answerphone is a
minor annoyance - and CLI still works well. I asked Zen Support
if, when using the Fritz!Box in answerphone mode, the Fon led
lights up when a recorded message is left, but haven't had a
reply.
According to the manual:
"Fon/DECT LED:
flashing. Messages in your voice mailbox.
(Function must be supported by the telephony provider.)
off. No devices registering ".
Yep. That's what I found in the manual, so asked Zen (the
"telephony provider") before I bothered fiddling with the
Fritz!Box's answerphone. If it doesn't work, there's no point in
using it - the Panasonic's led lights when there's a message
waiting.
tiny screen, you have to check closely to see it.
My Panasonic flashes when there's a message in the Fritz!Box, as did
the old Giogaset that i've binned.
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline
calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics and >>>>> added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to divert to >>>>> answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I >>>>> have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed, then >>>> the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen the call. I >>>> see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an advantage either. >>>> Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside
handset as an alarm clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I
have the 'phone right there with me.
Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the DECT
handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio connection to the
DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's working at present - the
"engaged" tone with answerphone is a minor annoyance - and CLI still
works well. I asked Zen Support if, when using the Fritz!Box in
answerphone mode, the Fon led lights up when a recorded message is left,
but haven't had a reply.
Of course you don't need a base station. Just a dumb charging cradle
at the point where you keep the handset. The base station
functionality (i.e. what we might today call the server) is now inside
the Fritz!Box.
On 25/05/2026 10:28, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline >>>>>> calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics and >>>>>> added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to divert to >>>>>> answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I >>>>>> have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed,
then
the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen the
call. I
see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an advantage
either.
Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside
handset as an alarm clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I >>>>> have the 'phone right there with me.
Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the DECT
handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio connection to the
DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's working at present - the
"engaged" tone with answerphone is a minor annoyance - and CLI still
works well. I asked Zen Support if, when using the Fritz!Box in
answerphone mode, the Fon led lights up when a recorded message is left, >>> but haven't had a reply.
Of course you don't need a base station. Just a dumb charging cradle
at the point where you keep the handset. The base station
functionality (i.e. what we might today call the server) is now inside
the Fritz!Box.
Apologies for using "base station" as a term for the dumb charger as
well. Panasonic just refer to it as the "charger". Actually, according
to the Panasonic manual, over a year there would be only 3.5kWh
difference in consumption between the two, so around -u1 at present costs.
On Mon, 25 May 2026 10:26:35 +0100
Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2026 16:41:18 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>.
wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2026 15:24:02 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 13:36, Davey wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
My Panasonic flashes when there's a message in the Fritz!Box, as did
the old Giogaset that i've binned.
Does the FON light flash also? Not that I care, I don't intend to use
the Fritz!Box as an answerphone, but for completion of the puzzle.
And I wonder if this a function of the Fritz!Box for any provider, or
only those which support the flashing function?
So many questions....
On 25/05/2026 12:35, Jeff Layman wrote:All this fuss and discussion over what is for me about 7 spam calls a
On 25/05/2026 10:28, Trolleybus wrote:One advantage is that its one less device that needs battery backup in
On Sun, 24 May 2026 11:30:42 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On 24/05/2026 10:42, Trolleybus wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2026 12:44:43 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Since then, due to my very low volume of genuine incoming landline >>>>>>> calls, I've binned the Siemens and all but one of the Panasonics and >>>>>>> added a single Fritz!FON. I've configured the Fritx!Box to divert to >>>>>>> answerphone after 10s and play the audio through the Fritz!FON, so I >>>>>>> have call screening.
My DECT 'phones let an incoming call ring for the maximum allowed, >>>>>> then
the answering machine part answers, and allows me to screen the
call. I
see nothing wrong with your setup, but I don't see an advantage
either.
Except probably a bigger 'Barred' number memory. I use my bedside
handset as an alarm clock, and if the Intruder/Fire alarm goes off, I >>>>>> have the 'phone right there with me.
Horses for courses.
The only advantage I'm claiming is that I no lomger need to keep a
redundant DECT base station, nor plug anything physically into the
router, which is in a room that doesn't need a landline phone.
But you need a base station (even just a "dumb" one) to keep the DECT
handset charged. I haven't tried the Fritz!Box radio connection to the >>>> DECT phone yet. I'm content with how it's working at present - the
"engaged" tone with answerphone is a minor annoyance - and CLI still
works well. I asked Zen Support if, when using the Fritz!Box in
answerphone mode, the Fon led lights up when a recorded message is left, >>>> but haven't had a reply.
Of course you don't need a base station. Just a dumb charging cradle
at the point where you keep the handset. The base station
functionality (i.e. what we might today call the server) is now inside
the Fritz!Box.
Apologies for using "base station" as a term for the dumb charger as
well. Panasonic just refer to it as the "charger". Actually, according
to the Panasonic manual, over a year there would be only 3.5kWh
difference in consumption between the two, so around u1 at present costs.
the event of a power fail. For Panasonic handsets, you lose the voice >announcement. Its generated in the Panasonic base station.
I have one handset paired to both the router and the DECT base station.
Then in the event of a power cut I can swap it over.
I like the answerphone in the router. It can e-mail me the voice mails
via GMAIL (you need an app password).
Dave
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