• Telephone numbers

    From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 11:32:15 2026
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    Lots of fascinating numbers, including "Location Independent Electronic Communications
    Service", i.e. a VOIP phone number.

    What is a 6-digit Non-Geographic Number Portability Code?

    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/phones-telecoms-and-internet/information-for-industry/numbering/other/national-numbering-plan.pdf

    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/accessibility/general-conditions-of-entitlement
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 11:54:23 2026
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    Richmond wrote:

    What is a 6-digit Non-Geographic Number Portability Code?

    Dunno, but with only 800 of them available, I don't suppose they're
    involved in individual ports of 'normal' phone numbers ... maybe to re-allocate number blocks between providers if they go bust etc?


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  • From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 12:44:27 2026
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    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

    Richmond wrote:

    What is a 6-digit Non-Geographic Number Portability Code?

    Dunno, but with only 800 of them available, I don't suppose they're
    involved in individual ports of 'normal' phone numbers ... maybe to re-allocate number blocks between providers if they go bust etc?

    I see there is also a 6-digit Geographic Number Portability
    Code. According to NotebookLM, Facilitating Switching: The primary use
    of these codes is to allow a subscriber to keep their geographic
    telephone number (one starting with an 01 or 02 area code) when they
    switch their service to a different communications provider.

    I see also that most of the area codes are restricted, which means
    apparently they are only allocated to prividers in blocks of 1000. So in
    theory you could tell from a number who the original provider was.

    01234 Bedford must be highly sought after.
    01666 Malmesbury
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 12:54:00 2026
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    Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

    Richmond wrote:

    What is a 6-digit Non-Geographic Number Portability Code?

    Dunno, but with only 800 of them available, I don't suppose they're involved in individual ports of 'normal' phone numbers ... maybe to re-allocate number blocks between providers if they go bust etc?

    I see there is also a 6-digit Geographic Number Portability
    Code. According to NotebookLM, Facilitating Switching: The primary use
    of these codes is to allow a subscriber to keep their geographic
    telephone number (one starting with an 01 or 02 area code) when they
    switch their service to a different communications provider.

    That's just an expansion of the name. It doesn't enlighten what they are
    used for, likely because it doesn't have any more of a clue than we do.

    I see also that most of the area codes are restricted, which means
    apparently they are only allocated to prividers in blocks of 1000. So in theory you could tell from a number who the original provider was.

    Indeed you can. This is exploited by phone scammers, as in 'Hello, I'm
    calling from Virgin Media about your contract...'

    (which of course doesn't wash if you've since ported the number away from
    the original provider)

    Theo
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  • From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 13:06:15 2026
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    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:


    That's just an expansion of the name. It doesn't enlighten what they are
    used for, likely because it doesn't have any more of a clue than we do.


    It said a bit more than that:

    "Usage and Implementation Facilitating Switching: The primary use of
    these codes is to allow a subscriber to keep their geographic telephone
    number (one starting with an 01 or 02 area code) when they switch their
    service to a different communications provider .

    Internal Network Function: Because they are used for network purposes,
    these codes act as behind-the-scenes addresses that help different
    providers route calls to the correct destination once a number has been
    moved from its original network .

    Technical Flexibility: Although these codes are allocated for
    portability, the Plan clarifies that the Portability of Telephone
    Numbers does not strictly have to be enabled by using these specific
    Number Portability Codes

    . Providers may use other technical mechanisms to achieve portability. Regulatory Compliance: Any communications provider using these codes
    must ensure they are used strictly in accordance with the designations
    set out in the National Telephone Numbering Plan ."
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  • From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 13:31:23 2026
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    I found some data here:

    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/phone-numbers/numbering-data

    There are many companies I have never heard of, e.g. Need More Time Ltd.
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 14:31:14 2026
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    Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:


    That's just an expansion of the name. It doesn't enlighten what they are used for, likely because it doesn't have any more of a clue than we do.


    It said a bit more than that:

    "Usage and Implementation Facilitating Switching: The primary use of
    these codes is to allow a subscriber to keep their geographic telephone number (one starting with an 01 or 02 area code) when they switch their service to a different communications provider .

    Internal Network Function: Because they are used for network purposes,
    these codes act as behind-the-scenes addresses that help different
    providers route calls to the correct destination once a number has been
    moved from its original network .

    OK, I suppose you could use that for routing purposes. ie the number block owner sets the number to forward to 504227 when the number has been ported
    to Virgin Media. That gets trunked to VM who then work out which subscriber
    it is and how to deliver it.

    Companies you've never heard of are likely to be holding companies owned by
    one of the players. eg A&A had a cunning little wheeze: https://www.revk.uk/2014/03/the-new-number-tax.html

    Theo
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Sat Apr 11 22:56:32 2026
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    On 2026/4/11 12:44:27, Richmond wrote:

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    01234 Bedford must be highly sought after.
    01666 Malmesbury

    The (telephone) number of the beast?
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