My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme from
the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the TV itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have 'Samsung
TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?) woman/technician I spoke to could not understand the problem. A check of the system shows
we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal quality so she insisted
the signal was not good enough - but failed to understand/accept that
the programme actually comes off the Internet (we are on VM M125.) It matters not whether the Internet feed is cable or wifi, the same things happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme from
the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the TV itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have 'Samsung
TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?) woman/technician I spoke to could not understand the problem. A check of the system shows
we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal quality so she insisted
the signal was not good enough - but failed to understand/accept that
the programme actually comes off the Internet (we are on VM M125.) It matters not whether the Internet feed is cable or wifi, the same things happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
Thats out in the sunny Anglia region off Sudbury - but if its internet
it makes no difference ?
On 20/03/2026 09:21, Woody wrote:
My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme
from the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the
TV itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have
'Samsung TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?) woman/technician
I spoke to could not understand the problem. A check of the system
shows we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal quality so she
insisted the signal was not good enough - but failed to understand/
accept that the programme actually comes off the Internet (we are on
VM M125.) It matters not whether the Internet feed is cable or wifi,
the same things happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
I dont know much about it,-a but .... on my telly
Nosey TV is live right now on 278
Rok is live on 265
Revelation is on 266
ChannelBox TVP is on 271
Puppose Media is on 279
Channel 280 appears dead, but the EPG says the channel is called "Talk"
and should have a program called "Ian Collins " on it right now
Thats out in the sunny Anglia region off Sudbury - but if its internet
it makes no difference ?
I use France24 on 255 as a comparison - if Talk doesn't want to work but
F24 does work to me it suggests a sending issue rather than receiving at
my end. Point of interest what make/model of TV, screen size and age are
you using?
I use France24 on 255 as a comparison - if Talk doesn't want to work
but F24 does work to me it suggests a sending issue rather than
receiving at my end. Point of interest what make/model of TV, screen
size and age are you using?
F24 up and running here FWIW
On 20/03/2026 09:21, Woody wrote:
My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme from
the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the TV
itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have 'Samsung
TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?) woman/technician I
spoke to could not understand the problem. A check of the system shows
we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal quality so she insisted
the signal was not good enough - but failed to understand/accept that
the programme actually comes off the Internet (we are on VM M125.) It
matters not whether the Internet feed is cable or wifi, the same things
happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
I dont know much about it, but .... on my telly
Nosey TV is live right now on 278
Rok is live on 265
Revelation is on 266
ChannelBox TVP is on 271
Puppose Media is on 279
Channel 280 appears dead, but the EPG says the channel is called "Talk"
and should have a program called "Ian Collins " on it right now
Thats out in the sunny Anglia region off Sudbury - but if its internet
it makes no difference ?
All the above including 280 (and 255 for that matter), working fine on
my 6+ years old Panasonic TV.
All the above including 280 (and 255 for that matter), working fine on
my 6+ years old Panasonic TV.
Interesting that you are getting 280 - which TV region / transmitter are
you on/in ?
On Fri 20/03/2026 13:54, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/03/2026 09:21, Woody wrote:Ah, now that makes sense. I presume you got the prog info from the
My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme
from the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the
TV itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have
'Samsung TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly. >>>
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?)
woman/technician I spoke to could not understand the problem. A check
of the system shows we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal
quality so she insisted the signal was not good enough - but failed
to understand/ accept that the programme actually comes off the
Internet (we are on VM M125.) It matters not whether the Internet
feed is cable or wifi, the same things happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
I dont know much about it,-a but .... on my telly
Nosey TV is live right now on 278
Rok is live on 265
Revelation is on 266
ChannelBox TVP is on 271
Puppose Media is on 279
Channel 280 appears dead, but the EPG says the channel is called
"Talk" and should have a program called "Ian Collins " on it right now
Thats out in the sunny Anglia region off Sudbury - but if its internet
it makes no difference ?
channel number extended logo? You should have then got a pale blue
screen with "This channel is not available" in the middle, then after as much as a minute it should go to a black screen with larger white text across the middle saying "Loading: this may take a few moments..."
After usually about 5-10 seconds it changes to the station logo which is
a black disc with an orange edging (looks a bit like a solar eclipse!)
on a dark blue background with a sharp orange point lower right that
could conceivably make it look like a 'digital' letter Q. Across the
middle in smaller white text it just says "Loading......"
Depending which way the wind is blowing that logo should be replaced by program after a few (10 on a bad day) seconds.
I use France24 on 255 as a comparison - if Talk doesn't want to work but
F24 does work to me it suggests a sending issue rather than receiving at
my end. Point of interest what make/model of TV, screen size and age are
you using?
I am receiving off Emley Moor but can also get Bilsdale. Neither
work.(We are about 5deg off the direct line between Emley and Bilsdale
at very similar distances.) Our outdoor multibeam failed about a year
ago so I temporarily (ha!) replaced it with a dual beam log periodic in
the loft and its still working. From my original post you will see that
the Support Tech said my signal was not good enough at 54% signal level, 100% signal quality. This afternoon I removed a 2-way passive splitter
in the feed to that specific TV which increased the signal level to 90%
but it still did not work.
More and more I get the feeling that this is a TV/software issue and
nothing whatsoever to do with signal sourcing be that off air or
Interweb. I saw the other day that Samsung had it appears inadvertently deleted iPlayer from their feed. Hopeless?
On 2026-03-20 09:21, Woody wrote:
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have 'Samsung
TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
Well, I'm not familiar with this arrangement, but to me it sounds like
an internet connectivity issue: TV not set up to connect to your WiFi correctly, or cabled incorrectly? Firewall problem?
My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme from
the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the TV itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have 'Samsung
TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?) woman/technician I spoke to could not understand the problem. A check of the system shows
we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal quality so she insisted
the signal was not good enough - but failed to understand/accept that
the programme actually comes off the Internet (we are on VM M125.) It matters not whether the Internet feed is cable or wifi, the same things happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
On 20/03/2026 09:21, Woody wrote:
My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme
from the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the
TV itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have
'Samsung TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?) woman/technician
I spoke to could not understand the problem. A check of the system
shows we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal quality so she
insisted the signal was not good enough - but failed to understand/
accept that the programme actually comes off the Internet (we are on
VM M125.) It matters not whether the Internet feed is cable or wifi,
the same things happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
I had never heard of hbbtv so I looked it up.Among all the descriptions
of what it is and how it works, I found:
"HbbTV still faces obstacles, such as security concerns and varying
levels of device compatibility."
That suggests that perhaps it is not compatible with a newer Samsung?
On 20/03/2026 09:21, Woody wrote:
My wife has taken to watching Talk on channel 280. This is an hbbtv
channel AIUI that needs the aerial connected but gets the programme
from the Internet.
We have Samsung and LG 32in smart TVs that work perfectly on 280. We
also had a Philips (badged) 24in in the kitchen which worked but the
TV itself was a nightmare to manage.
We replaced the Philips yesterday with a Samsung 24in smart TV which
works well AFAICT but will not work on 280. For comparison 255 is
France24 and that works perfectly, but 280 progresses as far as the
station logo with 'Loading....' across the middle and goes no further
not matter how long I leave the set running. Samsung also have
'Samsung TV Plus' where the station is on 4557 and that works perfectly.
I have tried Samsung Tech Support but the (oriental?) woman/technician
I spoke to could not understand the problem. A check of the system
shows we are getting 54% signal level and 100% signal quality so she
insisted the signal was not good enough - but failed to understand/
accept that the programme actually comes off the Internet (we are on
VM M125.) It matters not whether the Internet feed is cable or wifi,
the same things happens.
Anyone got any ideas or come across this sort of issue before?
I had never heard of hbbtv so I looked it up.Among all the descriptions
of what it is and how it works, I found:
"HbbTV still faces obstacles, such as security concerns and varying
levels of device compatibility."
That suggests that perhaps it is not compatible with a newer Samsung?
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