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  • Re: Older TV increasingly missing services on some muxes

    From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jan 28 18:33:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <mtun6mF38j4U2@mid.individual.net>,
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:

    What are you missing compared to this list?

    <https://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.php? mux2=2&by=lcn&tsidreg=Cambridge&pg=live.php>

    Presumably "That's TV 3" which uses MPEG4 ...

    PSB2 D3&4 count shows 16/17 -1
    Maybe that makes sense, Channel 555 Accessible TV Guide is missing,
    not listed.

    COM6 ArqB count 29/30 -1
    Again some sense Channel 207 POP UP is missing, not listed.

    COM4 SDN 47/50 -3
    Many of these seem to be internet links not true channels. The only
    one I can confirm is missing is 253 Trailblazer.

    I can't account for the count being -3.

    All other tvs count correctly but they are DVB2 compatible the old
    sony is not.

    But why....

    Bob.

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jan 28 19:09:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    Bob Latham wrote:

    All other tvs count correctly but they are DVB2 compatible

    Though DVB-T2 compatible, doesn't necessarily imply it will decode MPEG4
    on a DVB-T1 mux
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jan 28 19:55:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <mtv56vF5ilpU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Bob Latham wrote:

    All other tvs count correctly but they are DVB2 compatible

    Though DVB-T2 compatible, doesn't necessarily imply it will decode
    MPEG4 on a DVB-T1 mux

    Agreed but that Sony has no problem displaying 1080p via a DVB-T (not
    T2) modulator. It has been a while since that was at the forefront of
    my memory but I think I recall that to display 1080p MPEG4 is
    required. I'm probably wrong.

    Bob.

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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jan 28 21:25:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 28/01/2026 13:08, Bob Latham wrote:
    For the last couple of years an old/small Sony tv KDL 19BX200 from
    about 2010 has been 1 service down on PSB2 D3&4.

    Just done a retune (Suttom C) and now..

    C39+ COM6 ArqB 29/30 -1
    C42 COM4 SDN 47/50 -3
    C46 PSB2 D3&4 16/17 -1

    Anyone any idea what's so different about some services that this old
    tv can't even register it?

    Of absolutely no importance, I'm just curious.

    Is the TV tuner capable of decoding T2/HD MUXs some SD channels are now carried on the HD MUXs although still SD.
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu Jan 29 13:42:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <mtvd5nF6o8uU2@mid.individual.net>,
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    Is the TV tuner capable of decoding T2/HD MUXs

    No it isn't. Thought oddly it has no problem displaying 1080p from a
    DVB-T ((T1) modulator.

    some SD channels are now carried on the HD MUXs although still SD.

    True indeed but the missing items are not on the T2 mux which on
    Sutton is C40.

    Thanks.

    Bob.

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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jan 28 13:08:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    For the last couple of years an old/small Sony tv KDL 19BX200 from
    about 2010 has been 1 service down on PSB2 D3&4.

    Just done a retune (Suttom C) and now..

    C39+ COM6 ArqB 29/30 -1
    C42 COM4 SDN 47/50 -3
    C46 PSB2 D3&4 16/17 -1

    Anyone any idea what's so different about some services that this old
    tv can't even register it?

    Of absolutely no importance, I'm just curious.

    Bob.

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jan 28 15:06:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    Bob Latham wrote:

    For the last couple of years an old/small Sony tv KDL 19BX200 from
    about 2010 has been 1 service down on PSB2 D3&4.

    Anyone any idea what's so different about some services that this old
    tv can't even register it?
    What are you missing compared to this list?

    <https://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.php?mux2=2&by=lcn&tsidreg=Cambridge&pg=live.php>
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jan 28 15:10:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    Andy Burns wrote:

    What are you missing compared to this list?

    <https://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.php? mux2=2&by=lcn&tsidreg=Cambridge&pg=live.php>

    Presumably "That's TV 3" which uses MPEG4 ...

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