• Stokes' Reignation

    From John Hall@john@jhall.co.uk to uk.sport.cricket on Sun Jun 28 20:09:45 2026
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    Well that came as a surprise - not the resignation so much as the timing
    of it. You'd have expected that, if he was going to resign, it would
    have been either after he was suspended for the second Test or else at
    the end of the summer after the series against Pakistan.

    I don't think that Harry Brook is really ready for the Test captaincy
    yet, but I can't see Joe Root being willing to act as a stop-gap for a
    second time; doing it for one Test is one thing, doing it for a series
    or more would be a lot more demanding. I don't suppose the way that the
    Oval Test went would have exactly encouraged. Also, even allowing for
    how weakened England were for that game, the way he captained didn't
    exactly suggest that he was the right man for the job.

    There don't seem to be any other captaincy candidates in the current
    England side. Outside the Engtland team, Haseeb Hameed has been very
    successful leading Nottinghamshire and has been scoring well. But even
    though he seems a less defensive batsman than he was earlier in his
    career, it's hard to see England bringing him back to open in place of
    Gay, certainly not while McCullum is still coach. (Though it could be
    that McCullum might be forced out before long.)
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    John Hall

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  • From John Hall@john@jhall.co.uk to uk.sport.cricket on Tue Jun 30 18:03:40 2026
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    In spite of yesterday having been the first day of Wimbledon, as well as
    the football World Cup continuing, the first seven pages of my paper's
    sports section this morning were devoted to England's woes. I suppose
    nothing is more newsworthy than abject failure.

    In complete contrast, in the "100 years ago" feature they reprinted the
    report on the final day's play in the Lord's Test between England and Australia, during which England were able to declare at 475-3, though
    they couldn't force a win. In that match, England's batting order began
    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Woolley and Hendren, arguably the strongest top four
    we have ever had.
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    John Hall

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to uk.sport.cricket on Thu Jul 2 23:17:01 2026
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    On 1/07/2026 3:03 am, John Hall wrote:
    In spite of yesterday having been the first day of Wimbledon, as well as
    the football World Cup continuing, the first seven pages of my paper's
    sports section this morning were devoted to England's woes. I suppose
    nothing is more newsworthy than abject failure.

    In complete contrast, in the "100 years ago" feature they reprinted the report on the final day's play in the Lord's Test between England and Australia, during which England were able to declare at 475-3, though
    they couldn't force a win. In that match, England's batting order began Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Woolley and Hendren, arguably the strongest top four
    we have ever had.

    475-3 .... a pretty decent effort in any innings let alone on the last
    day of a test!
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  • From John Hall@john@jhall.co.uk to uk.sport.cricket on Thu Jul 2 16:42:33 2026
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    In article <1125ocg$2k55u$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes
    On 1/07/2026 3:03 am, John Hall wrote:
    In spite of yesterday having been the first day of Wimbledon, as well as
    the football World Cup continuing, the first seven pages of my paper's
    sports section this morning were devoted to England's woes. I suppose
    nothing is more newsworthy than abject failure.

    In complete contrast, in the "100 years ago" feature they reprinted the
    report on the final day's play in the Lord's Test between England and
    Australia, during which England were able to declare at 475-3, though
    they couldn't force a win. In that match, England's batting order began
    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Woolley and Hendren, arguably the strongest top four
    we have ever had.

    475-3 .... a pretty decent effort in any innings let alone on the last
    day of a test!

    Well a lot of the runs would have been scored on the previous evening.
    And I'm pretty sure that it was a three-day Test, so they needed to get
    a move on to have any hope of forcing a result. As it was, the first
    four Tests in the series were all draws, so I think it was agreed that
    the fifth Test at The Oval should be "timeless", and England famously
    won it. After that, it had become clear that the pitches in England had
    become too good for batting to make 3-day Tests against Australia
    sensible, and the length was increased to four days. (It wouldn't become
    five days till after WW2. In Australia between the wars, all the Tests
    were "timeless".)
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  • From David North@nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk to uk.sport.cricket on Fri Jul 3 08:01:37 2026
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    On 02/07/2026 16:42, John Hall wrote:
    In article <1125ocg$2k55u$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes
    On 1/07/2026 3:03 am, John Hall wrote:
    In spite of yesterday having been the first day of Wimbledon, as well as >>> the football World Cup continuing, the first seven pages of my paper's
    sports section this morning were devoted to England's woes. I suppose
    nothing is more newsworthy than abject failure.

    In complete contrast, in the "100 years ago" feature they reprinted the
    report on the final day's play in the Lord's Test between England and
    Australia, during which England were able to declare at 475-3, though
    they couldn't force a win. In that match, England's batting order began
    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Woolley and Hendren, arguably the strongest top four
    we have ever had.

    475-3 .... a pretty decent effort in any innings let alone on the last
    day of a test!

    Well a lot of the runs would have been scored on the previous evening.
    And I'm pretty sure that it was a three-day Test, so they needed to get
    a move on to have any hope of forcing a result.

    297-2 overnight. That was in reply to Australia's 383. England declared
    at lunch after facing 52 overs in 2.5 hours in the morning session, then bowled 88 overs in 3.75 hours (assuming that tea was 15 minutes, as
    lunch was 45). These days they often don't get 88 overs into a 6.5-hour day.

    https://www.sportstats.com.au/zArchive/1920s/1926EA/1926EA2bbb1.pdf7
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  • From max.it@max@tea.time to uk.sport.cricket on Sun Jul 5 12:09:12 2026
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    On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 08:01:37 +0100, David North
    <nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

    On 02/07/2026 16:42, John Hall wrote:
    In article <1125ocg$2k55u$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes
    On 1/07/2026 3:03 am, John Hall wrote:
    In spite of yesterday having been the first day of Wimbledon, as well as >>>> the football World Cup continuing, the first seven pages of my paper's >>>> sports section this morning were devoted to England's woes. I suppose
    nothing is more newsworthy than abject failure.

    In complete contrast, in the "100 years ago" feature they reprinted the >>>> report on the final day's play in the Lord's Test between England and
    Australia, during which England were able to declare at 475-3, though
    they couldn't force a win. In that match, England's batting order began >>>> Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Woolley and Hendren, arguably the strongest top four >>>> we have ever had.

    475-3 .... a pretty decent effort in any innings let alone on the last
    day of a test!

    Well a lot of the runs would have been scored on the previous evening.
    And I'm pretty sure that it was a three-day Test, so they needed to get
    a move on to have any hope of forcing a result.

    297-2 overnight. That was in reply to Australia's 383. England declared
    at lunch after facing 52 overs in 2.5 hours in the morning session, then >bowled 88 overs in 3.75 hours (assuming that tea was 15 minutes, as
    lunch was 45). These days they often don't get 88 overs into a 6.5-hour day.

    https://www.sportstats.com.au/zArchive/1920s/1926EA/1926EA2bbb1.pdf7


    I remember when the local 50 over regulations introduced the final
    over had to be started no more than 3 hr 15 min from the first ball.
    One club Victoria cc had new sight screens and a left right batting
    partnership left them 9 overs short at the cut off. The penalty was 6
    runs per over.

    max.it
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