• Assumption

    From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to uk.religion.christian on Fri Aug 14 16:12:06 2026
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    August 15 is Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    This is significant to me since I went to Assumption Elementary
    school in Avondale, Conception Bay Central, Newfoundland
    (before going to Roncalli Central High).

    Note that it is called Assumption for Mary and Ascension
    for Jesus since Jesus is said to have ascended to
    Heaven under his own power whereas Mary was
    uplifted by God's power.

    By the way, there is also an Ascension Collegiate
    high school in Bay Roberts, Conception Bay North,
    Newfoundland, where I once won the conciliation
    round of a provincial junior badminton tournament.
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  • From Timreason@timreason@hotmail.co.uk to uk.religion.christian on Sat Aug 15 07:40:51 2026
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    On 14/08/2026 19:42, David Dalton wrote:
    August 15 is Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    This is significant to me since I went to Assumption Elementary
    school in Avondale, Conception Bay Central, Newfoundland
    (before going to Roncalli Central High).

    Note that it is called Assumption for Mary and Ascension
    for Jesus since Jesus is said to have ascended to
    Heaven under his own power whereas Mary was
    uplifted by God's power.

    By the way, there is also an Ascension Collegiate
    high school in Bay Roberts, Conception Bay North,
    Newfoundland, where I once won the conciliation
    round of a provincial junior badminton tournament.


    Although the Church of England remember it as a day to celebrate the
    life of St Mary, the Feast of the Assumption is not official doctrine.
    That said, the term is used by many 'High Church' Anglicans.

    Personally I remain open-minded about it, but I am wary of the risk of
    moving beyond reverence to Mary into the realms of worshipping her.
    Reverence is OK worship is not.

    Getting the balance right is problematic. IMO some High Church people go
    too far, whereas some Low or Broad Church people do not go far enough.
    The scripture is clear, "Blessed art thou among women", and "Generations
    will call me blessed". [Luke Ch.1]

    So she should be revered but not worshipped.

    Tim.




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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Aug 16 09:17:01 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 07:40, Timreason wrote:

    Personally I remain open-minded about it, but I am wary of the risk of moving beyond reverence to Mary into the realms of worshipping her. Reverence is OK worship is not.


    As chair of Rhyl Cytun (Churches Together) I have to attend mass at St
    Mary's today. For once I won't be joining in many of the responses, as
    the Catholics do indeed cross that line.

    Mary is not our mediatrix or redemptorix or any of the other title
    foisted upon her.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to uk.religion.christian on Sat Aug 15 17:06:42 2026
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    On Aug 14, 2026, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.302F98FE008FCF4130777838F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    August 15 is Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    This is significant to me since I went to Assumption Elementary
    school in Avondale, Conception Bay Central, Newfoundland
    (before going to Roncalli Central High).

    Note that it is called Assumption for Mary and Ascension
    for Jesus since Jesus is said to have ascended to
    Heaven under his own power whereas Mary was
    uplifted by God's power.

    By the way, there is also an Ascension Collegiate
    high school in Bay Roberts, Conception Bay North,
    Newfoundland, where I once won the conciliation
    round of a provincial junior badminton tournament.

    Oops, that should read rCLconsolation roundrCY.

    And from https://www.holidays-and-observances.com/august-16.html
    this year August 16 is God's Preeminence Day
    (third Sunday in August each year).
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  • From Madhu@enometh@meer.net to uk.religion.christian on Sun Aug 16 21:42:06 2026
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    * David Dalton <0001HW.3030F74A00AAD16F30777838F@news.eternal-september.org> : Wrote on Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:06:42 -0230:

    On Aug 14, 2026, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.302F98FE008FCF4130777838F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    August 15 is Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    This is significant to me since I went to Assumption Elementary
    school in Avondale, Conception Bay Central, Newfoundland
    (before going to Roncalli Central High).

    Note that it is called Assumption for Mary and Ascension
    for Jesus since Jesus is said to have ascended to
    Heaven under his own power whereas Mary was
    uplifted by God's power.


    If this is true then Mary joins the select group of people who never
    died, or whose death is not recorded. viz. Enoch, Elijah and
    (incorrectly according to Ken, Moses who is recorded to have actually
    died), and this would indeed make Mary eligible for veneration accorded
    to Enoch and Elijah, above those of the soulsleeping saints.

    By the way, there is also an Ascension Collegiate
    high school in Bay Roberts, Conception Bay North,
    Newfoundland, where I once won the conciliation
    round of a provincial junior badminton tournament.

    Oops, that should read rCLconsolation roundrCY.

    And from https://www.holidays-and-observances.com/august-16.html
    this year August 16 is God's Preeminence Day
    (third Sunday in August each year).



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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Aug 16 18:13:27 2026
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    On 16/08/2026 17:12, Madhu wrote:

    If this is true then Mary joins the select group of people who never
    died, or whose death is not recorded. viz. Enoch, Elijah and
    (incorrectly according to Ken, Moses who is recorded to have actually
    died), and this would indeed make Mary eligible for veneration accorded
    to Enoch and Elijah, above those of the soulsleeping saints.

    The Assumption of Mary is not taught in the Bible. There is a collection
    of literature that can be grouped under "Assumption of the Virgin"
    title. I have just been re-reading some of them in P.D.James "The
    Apocryphal New Testament".

    According to them, Mary did indeed die - in fact, some versions claim
    that Jesus had to leave the room so that Death could enter and take her.
    Jesus then put her soul into a chariot and departed for heaven. The
    disciples were to keep vigil over her body for three and a half days (or
    201 days in other versions) at the end of which time Jesus came down
    again and stuffed Mary back into her body and took both to heaven.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From Stuart@Spambin@argonet.co.uk to uk.religion.christian on Sun Aug 16 20:15:09 2026
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    In article <115sr3m$b64m$2@dont-email.me>,
    Kendall K. Down <kendallkdown@googlemail.com> wrote:

    According to them, Mary did indeed die - in fact, some versions claim
    that Jesus had to leave the room so that Death could enter and take her. Jesus then put her soul into a chariot and departed for heaven. The disciples were to keep vigil over her body for three and a half days (or
    201 days in other versions) at the end of which time Jesus came down
    again and stuffed Mary back into her body and took both to heaven.

    What a load of old cobblers!
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