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    From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Fri Jul 10 18:12:22 2026
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    The Rev Dr Bernard Randall had the temerity to stand up in a CofE
    school, in the chapel of the school, and tell students that Christian
    marriage was between a biological man and woman. For this awful heresy
    he was reported to Prevent by the school authorities (you can see the
    clear link to terrorism, I'm sure) and suspended from all clerical
    functions by the Diocese of Derby. His attempts to appeal against this
    were frustrated by Justin Welby, the woke archbishop of Canterbury.

    Various employment tribunals ruled in his favour, but senior clergy
    would not budge from their determination to punish anyone daring to
    preach Christian doctrine.

    Now, however, with the backing of the Christian Legal Centre, he has won reinstatement. I don't have any details of what that term means, but
    I'll bet the woke non-Christians will do their damndest to frustrate any attempt to see him in active ministry again.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sat Jul 11 18:52:46 2026
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    On 10/07/2026 18:12, Kendall K. Down wrote:
    The Rev Dr Bernard Randall had the temerity to stand up in a CofE
    school, in the chapel of the school, and tell students that Christian marriage was between a biological man and woman. For this awful heresy
    he was reported to Prevent by the school authorities (you can see the
    clear link to terrorism, I'm sure) and suspended from all clerical
    functions by the Diocese of Derby. His attempts to appeal against this
    were frustrated by Justin Welby, the woke archbishop of Canterbury.

    Bernard didn't quite say that, he said "it is perfectly legitimate to
    think that marriage should only properly be understood as being a
    lifelong exclusive union of a man and a woman..." Absolutely nothing
    wrong in that comment, nor was he referred to Prevent for that comment.

    Understandably, he got a bit uppity with them, they got a bit uppity
    with him, and he was referred to Prevent, wrongly. Prevent ruled there
    was no case to answer.

    Various employment tribunals ruled in his favour, but senior clergy
    would not budge from their determination to punish anyone daring to
    preach Christian doctrine.

    Why do you tell lies Ken? He appealed to a tribunal and lost. He
    appealed again in 2025 and Trent College was ordered to pay -u20,000 and re-examine the dismissal. Subsequently there has been a legal settlement between the two parties. It was never decided by the second tribunal.

    As for preaching Christian doctrine, as much as I don't have an issue
    with his sermon, (see below) isn't there something in that doctrine
    which forbids taking your fellow Christians to court?

    Now, however, with the backing of the Christian Legal Centre, he has won reinstatement. I don't have any details of what that term means, but
    I'll bet the woke non-Christians will do their damndest to frustrate any attempt to see him in active ministry again.

    Re-instatement means getting his job back, which isn't quite the case.

    "According to the Christian Legal Centre, Randall has completed the
    Church of England's mandatory safeguarding training. He is now eligible
    to apply for Permission to Officiate, although any decision on granting
    a licence rests with the Diocese of Derby."

    https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/bernard-randall-vicar-settles-legal-battle-after-dismissed-preaching-gender-identity

    Hopefully he will get a licence to officiate again, and the sorry saga
    can be put to bed.

    Interesting sermon by the way, it may well do you good to take heed:

    "So, all in all, if you are at ease with rCLall this LGBT stuff,rCY yourCOre entitled to keep to those ideas; if you are not comfortable with it, for
    the various especially religious reasons, you should not feel required
    to change. Whichever side of this conflict of ideas you come down on, or
    even if you are unsure of some of it, the most important thing is to
    remember that loving your neighbour as yourself does not mean agreeing
    with everything he or she says; *it means that when we have these
    discussions there is no excuse for personal attacks or abusive language.
    We should all respect that people on each side of the debate have deep
    and strongly held convictions.* And because, unlike Brexit, this is not
    a debate which is subject to a vote, it is an ongoing process, so there
    should be a shared effort to find out what real truth looks like, and to respect that that effort is made honestly and sincerely by all people,
    even if not everybody comes up with the same answers for now.

    (my emphasis)


    https://christianconcern.com/resource/a-school-sermon-by-bernard-randall-competing-ideologies/



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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sat Jul 11 21:25:03 2026
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    On 11/07/2026 18:52, John wrote:

    Bernard didn't quite say that, he said "it is perfectly legitimate to
    think that marriage should only properly be understood as being a
    lifelong exclusive union of a man and a woman..."-a Absolutely nothing
    wrong in that comment, nor was he referred to Prevent for that comment.

    I'm glad you agree that there was nothing wrong with his comment.

    Understandably, he got a bit uppity with them, they got a bit uppity
    with him, and he was referred to Prevent, wrongly.-a Prevent ruled there
    was no case to answer.

    So he was referred to Prevent because of his comment.

    Why do you tell lies Ken? He appealed to a tribunal and lost. He
    appealed again in 2025 and Trent College was ordered to pay -u20,000 and re-examine the dismissal. Subsequently there has been a legal settlement between the two parties. It was never decided by the second tribunal.

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15968619/Chaplain-sacked-gender-sermon-reinstated.html
    Apparently his lawyer said, "Secular bodies repeatedly vindicated him".
    Notice the plural.

    As for preaching Christian doctrine, as much as I don't have an issue
    with his sermon, (see below) isn't there something in that doctrine
    which forbids taking your fellow Christians to court?

    Indeed, but the emphasis is on "fellow Christians". If someone
    persecutes you for preaching Christian doctrine, that seems to me pretty
    clear evidence that that person is not a Christian.

    Re-instatement means getting his job back, which isn't quite the case. "According to the Christian Legal Centre, Randall has completed the
    Church of England's mandatory safeguarding training. He is now eligible
    to apply for Permission to Officiate, although any decision on granting
    a licence rests with the Diocese of Derby."

    Yes, as I said, the church will fight tooth and nail to keep on
    punishing him for daring to preach Christian doctrine.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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