Perhaps the greatest worry is the potential effect on the brain. It is nowState University in East Lansing, for example, has found that male
accepted that adolescence is a dynamic time for brain development and
that puberty hormones have a strong influence on the process. Without
them normal behaviours fail to develop. Cheryl Sisk at Michgan >
hamsters not exposed to sex hormones during puberty are much less likely
as adults to mount females, spread their scen to communicate their
status or indeed to have a dominant staus worth boasting about. And
these behaviours are long-lasting: hormone replacement in adulthood does
not put things right. A handful of studies suggests the same may apply
to humans. ... Men who were not exposed to sex hormones at the normal
age for puberty but were treated afterwards, had worse spatial abilities than other men.
New Scientist 22-07-2006 p. 38
This of course, was long before the current craze for men and women pretending to belong to the opposite sex (or, worse still, being forced
by evil adults into thinking that they are the wrong sex). Sadly, there
are those on this august forum who have swallowed the fashionable lie
and, without knowing anything about the subject, have argued that
children should be fed puberty blockers. It is interesting to read the conclusion of the article when dealing with a genuine medical problem.
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Perhaps it is no surprise that researchers are generally wary of
interfering in such an important yet poorly understood process. rCLIrCOm very nervous about a medical approach to puberty,rCY says endocrinologist Peter Gluckman of the University of Auckland in New Zealand. He accepts
that mistimed puberty is a problem that needs to be tackled. rCLBut IrCOm very reluctant to solve it medically. IrCOd rather solve it socially.
Maybe it would be better to help young people face biological maturity.rCY New Scientist 22-07-2006 p. 38
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Or these days, if he had not been silenced by the trans bigots, he might have said, "Maybe it would be better to help young people face
biological reality."
Name one person here who has said children should be fed puberty blockers?.....I'll wait.
I would see a psychiatrist if I were you, or better still, have a word
with God, because you claim to be a Christian and follow Jesus but your
over obsessive behaviour towards a minute section of society, who
rightly or wrongly believe they are born in the wrong body, borders on
the insane. You disobey one of the most important things Jesus said.
Love your enemies, love your neighbour as yourself.-a I can only assume
you have a very, very low opinion of yourself.
GB was too kind to you the other day when he said "You are anti-trans
for honestly held religious reasons" I get that a religious person may
have objections to trans matters, and that's absolutely fine.-a You go
way beyond that, bringing it up on a regular basis when it has
absolutely no impact on your walk with God in any way, shape or form.
And you're not just attacking the ideology, you're attacking people as well.-a Please show mw where, in that Holy book of yours, it allows you
to do that?
Does God care if someone chooses to change their gender?-a Personally I
very much doubt it. To over-emphasise a quote from Paul "There is
neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, *there is no
male and female*, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galations 3:28 ESV.
God looks at the heart, not the body. Perhaps you should do the same?Your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, if any man destroy the temple
On 29/06/2026 10:43, John wrote:
Name one person here who has said children should be fed puberty
blockers?.....I'll wait.
Oh, I doubt anyone has used those exact words (Gareth's favourite ploy
to evade accountability), but certainly we have been urged to have
sympathy for these poor kids who are in the "wrong body" and criticisms
of Tavistock have been condemned.
I would see a psychiatrist if I were you, or better still, have a word
with God, because you claim to be a Christian and follow Jesus but
your over obsessive behaviour towards a minute section of society, who
rightly or wrongly believe they are born in the wrong body, borders on
the insane. You disobey one of the most important things Jesus said.
Love your enemies, love your neighbour as yourself.-a I can only assume
you have a very, very low opinion of yourself.
So you cannot argue against the science, you merely attack the messenger.
GB was too kind to you the other day when he said "You are anti-trans
for honestly held religious reasons" I get that a religious person may
have objections to trans matters, and that's absolutely fine.-a You go
way beyond that, bringing it up on a regular basis when it has
absolutely no impact on your walk with God in any way, shape or form.
So far as I know, none of the scientists quoted in the New Scientist
article about genetics were religious, let alone Christian.
And you're not just attacking the ideology, you're attacking people as
well.-a Please show mw where, in that Holy book of yours, it allows you
to do that?
Posting a scientific warning about the dangers of meddling with the
body's natural process of puberty is "attacking people"? What a topsy-
turvy world you inhabit!
Does God care if someone chooses to change their gender?-a Personally I
very much doubt it. To over-emphasise a quote from Paul "There is
neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, *there is no
male and female*, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galations 3:28
ESV.
I think God does care when people muck about with the finely crafted physical processes He created. Does God care when women feel pressured
into having their breasts surgically removed?
God looks at the heart, not the body. Perhaps you should do the same?
Your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, if any man destroy the temple
of God, him will God destroy.
Perhaps you ought to read your Bible occasionally instead of acting as spokesman for the trans lobby.
Having sympathy for children who believe they were born in the wrong
body is not the same as saying they should be fed puberty blockers.
Read what I wrote. You're trying to gaslight me into it being about the study.-a It's about you, Ken Down, who has an obsessive hatred against anything trans. As I said above, if, as a Christian, you are against transgenderism, fine. You can make your feelings known without being offensive to those in the trans community.
I quote, with my emphasis added, "Or these days, if he had not been
silenced by the trans *bigots*, he might have said, "Maybe it would be better to help young people face biological reality."
We've done this before but people are not pressured into undergoing
trans surgery.
There is comprehensive counselling before such a decision is made.
If someone
decides they will have their breasts removed or their male genitalia
removed then I believe God doesn't care.-a If that person becomes a
happier person because of it, what does it matter?-a The human body is a shell we need to function in this world, that's all. It's what's inside
that counts.
As for being a spokesman for the trans lobby.-a I will stick up for marginalised people every single time.-a It's called empathy, somethingHow about displaying a bit of that famous empathy for the women who were outraged at being forced to undress in front of a man?
you sadly don't possess.
On 01/07/2026 14:23, John wrote:
Having sympathy for children who believe they were born in the wrong
body is not the same as saying they should be fed puberty blockers.
So you would join me in urging that they should receive psychiatric treatment for their mistaken and foolish belief?
Read what I wrote. You're trying to gaslight me into it being about
the study.-a It's about you, Ken Down, who has an obsessive hatred
against anything trans. As I said above, if, as a Christian, you are
against transgenderism, fine. You can make your feelings known without
being offensive to those in the trans community.
Reporting on the dangers of medicalising the condition is offensive?
I quote, with my emphasis added, "Or these days, if he had not been
silenced by the trans *bigots*, he might have said, "Maybe it would be
better to help young people face biological reality."
I am not surprised that you have failed to notice that others beside
myself have bewailed the bigotry and intolerance shown by those in the
trans lobby.
We've done this before but people are not pressured into undergoing
trans surgery.
That is not the testimony of people who have actually undergone surgery
and then regretted it.
There is comprehensive counselling before such a decision is made.
If you believe that, I have a bridge in which you might be interested.
Going cheap.
If someone decides they will have their breasts removed or their male
genitalia removed then I believe God doesn't care.-a If that person
becomes a happier person because of it, what does it matter?-a The
human body is a shell we need to function in this world, that's all.
It's what's inside that counts.
That is your opinion. God says, "If any man destroy the temple of God,
him shall God destroy". Sounds to me as if God *does* care what we do
with our bodies.
As for being a spokesman for the trans lobby.-a I will stick up for
marginalised people every single time.-a It's called empathy, something
you sadly don't possess.
How about displaying a bit of that famous empathy for the women who were outraged at being forced to undress in front of a man?
No, because I believe it is a defect in the human body, incurred at
birth (possibly prior)
Which is a minority. A quick google check says the regret is extremely low.-a A review of 27 studies covering just short of 8000 trans people showed a regret rate of between 1% and 2%
I take it God is equally disgusted if a woman has to have her breasts removed for medical reasons, or with the man who recently had 4 inches
of his penis chopped off because of penile cancer.
For what it's worth I think the situation could have been handled better
by all involved, but in particular the Health Authority for not coming
up with a solution for all concerned.-a The nurses should have been
listened to certainly, but they could have engaged with Rose and a
mutual understanding could have been reached. However, if they simply adopted your stance, it's a wonder the poor woman wasn't tarred and feathered!
No, because I believe it is a defect in the human body, incurred at
birth (possibly prior)
On 02/07/2026 01:01, John wrote:
No, because I believe it is a defect in the human body, incurred at
birth (possibly prior)
And you have identified this transgender gene? Or is it some sort of
trauma - oxygen starvation, perhaps? - which leads to this putative
defect? Perhaps you can quote some scientific papers to support your contention?
I take it God is equally disgusted if a woman has to have her breasts
removed for medical reasons, or with the man who recently had 4 inches
of his penis chopped off because of penile cancer.
I am sure that God is saddened by such cases, just as He is saddened if someone has to go amputation of a limb due to disease or accident. But
when there is no medical need, it would not surprise me if He was
disgusted by any "body modification".
For what it's worth I think the situation could have been handled
better by all involved, but in particular the Health Authority for not
coming up with a solution for all concerned.-a The nurses should have
been listened to certainly, but they could have engaged with Rose and
a mutual understanding could have been reached. However, if they
simply adopted your stance, it's a wonder the poor woman wasn't tarred
and feathered!
Oh? Who is this "poor woman"? If you mean the man pretending to be a
woman, my impression is that he was deliberately flaunting himself in
the women's facilities to make a point. The only "understanding" he was interested in was forcing people to do what he wanted.
On 02/07/2026 01:01, John wrote:
No, because I believe it is a defect in the human body, incurred at
birth (possibly prior)
Lowbridge wrote that "there has been little research" on lesbians experiencing "pressure" to "accept the idea that a penis can be a female
sex organ". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ %22We%27re_being_pressured_into_sex_by_some_trans_women%22
be a female sex organ"?
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