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Apparently Denmark is planning to ban the Muslim call to prayer - at
least, that is the headline. In fact they do not intend to ban the call
to prayer, merely ban it from being amplified - and that is something I
whole heartedly endorse!

Five times a day in Muslim countries the air is rendered hideous by
muezzins bellowing the call to prayer at volume loud enough to drown the traffic even in the busiest city and make conversation impossible. And
what is worse is that each muezzin keeps his own time - based,
apparently, on when he woke up in the morning and whether he ate too
heavy a meal last night, so just as the chap right next to your hotel is winding down, the blighter in the mosque two streets over starts
clearing his throat and you realise you have to go through it all again!

In concept the idea is actually quite attractive. The muezzin climbs to
the top of his mineret, cups his hands to his mouth and sings (yes, that hideous noise is actually Middle Eastern music, of which I am not a
fan). He moves around the balcony at the top of the mineret so that his
voice is directed to all four directions and even if you are allergic to
the atonal mess that is Arabic music, the result is still charming.

Far different is the result bellowed into the sort of amplifier that
most rock bands can only aspire to, by some lazy wretch with catarrh, a
frog in his throat and his teeth still specked by qat.

And if any Muslims still think that they have a God-given right to yowl
before dawn, let them just remember that they do not allow church bells
to be rung in Muslim countries. So here's a generous offer: we'll allow cacophonous bellowing in Copenhagen if they will allow change-ringing in
Mecca - and they'll have the better of the bargain, because at least a
full round of Oxfordshire Surprise Major is musical.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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* "Kendall K. Down" <111iorq$3k6f2$1@dont-email.me> :
Wrote on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 09:28:43 +0100:

Apparently Denmark is planning to ban the Muslim call to prayer - at
least, that is the headline. In fact they do not intend to ban the
call to prayer, merely ban it from being amplified - and that is
something I whole heartedly endorse!

Five times a day in Muslim countries the air is rendered hideous by
muezzins bellowing the call to prayer at volume loud enough to drown
the traffic even in the busiest city and make conversation
impossible. And what is worse is that each muezzin keeps his own time
- based, apparently, on when he woke up in the morning and whether he
ate too heavy a meal last night, so just as the chap right next to
your hotel is winding down, the blighter in the mosque two streets
over starts clearing his throat and you realise you have to go through
it all again!

That's hardly a problem in Denmark or the UK i imagine.

I've heard westerners who had the opposite experience with the calls to
prayer in some muslim countries (south east asia, etc.) who found it
helpful to stick to routine.

There has been a crackdown in India, where the muslims are being
actively oppressed systemaatically with big banker money flowing in on
behalf of Israel backing the oppression, apparently according to the
model trigger and manage muslim discontent like the west does in the
middle east. In bombay I think the faithful have to resort to mobile
phone apps, again a nod to the end-times all-encompasing central digital control of the population

The mosque in my neighbourhood (just less than a kilometer away) has
fallen silent for a long time now that I think about it. The calls were melliflous, when they were going on. And some here could appreciate the
musical "gamaka" of classical indian music reflected in the calls, (just
one crier, when he went holiday or was replaced, it wasn't so pleasant)

And if any Muslims still think that they have a God-given right to
yowl before dawn, let them just remember that they do not allow church
bells to be rung in Muslim countries. So here's a generous offer:
we'll allow cacophonous bellowing in Copenhagen if they will allow change-ringing in Mecca - and they'll have the better of the bargain,
because at least a full round of Oxfordshire Surprise Major is
musical.

Loudspeaker politics is like bulldozer politics, it doesn't particularly
matter who is doing it, or who is oppressed for the bankers in the
background to benefit from the keeping conflict life and keeping their
grip on society.



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On 25/06/2026 18:09, Madhu wrote:

That's hardly a problem in Denmark or the UK i imagine.

It's certainly not a problem here where I live, but I could imagine that
in some cities such as Bradford it might be.

I've heard westerners who had the opposite experience with the calls to prayer in some muslim countries (south east asia, etc.) who found it
helpful to stick to routine.

Why? Have they no alarm clocks? Alarms on their phones?

There has been a crackdown in India, where the muslims are being
actively oppressed systemaatically

Yes, by the Hindu majority such as the BJP, which I think is quite happy
to oppress all non-Hindus wherever the money may be.

In bombay I think the faithful have to resort to mobile
phone apps, again a nod to the end-times all-encompasing central digital control of the population

I think that is an excellent solution anywhere where Islam is a
minority. And the same solution could be adopted for Christians desirous
of hearing church bells. Note that although I dislike the cacophonous
calls to prayer, I do not question the right of Muslims in
Muslim-majority countries to do what they please.

The mosque in my neighbourhood (just less than a kilometer away) has
fallen silent for a long time now that I think about it. The calls were melliflous, when they were going on. And some here could appreciate the musical "gamaka" of classical indian music reflected in the calls, (just
one crier, when he went holiday or was replaced, it wasn't so pleasant)

Interesting if your local mosque was using Indian music as its
inspiration. Perhaps if they used guitars and drums and an Abba-style
tune Denmark would be more welcoming?

Loudspeaker politics is like bulldozer politics, it doesn't particularly matter who is doing it, or who is oppressed for the bankers in the
background to benefit from the keeping conflict life and keeping their
grip on society.

I doubt that bankers have anything to do with it.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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On 2026-06-25 19:54, Kendall K. Down wrote:

Interesting if your local mosque was using Indian music as its
inspiration. Perhaps if they used guitars and drums and an Abba-style
tune Denmark would be more welcoming?

ABBA are somewhat famously as Swedish as Volvo[1] or rotting, sorry,
fermented herring (surstr||mming - comes in tins which should preferably
never be opened but if you must only outdoors and downwind of inhabited
areas).

My knowledge of Danish pop groups seems to be temporarily escaping me but Google turned up Danish-Norwegian group Aqua whose only song known to me
is irritating Europop hit 'Barbie Girl'. I wouldn't want to be hearing
that five times a day - yowling indeed.


[1] OK, not so much since 1999.
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On 26/06/2026 17:37, Graham Nye wrote:

ABBA are somewhat famously as Swedish as Volvo[1]

I wasn't denying that, merely suggesting a style of singing that would
be attractive. "Allah allah allah" would go very nicely with one of
Abba's hits.

or rotting, sorry,
fermented herring (surstr||mming - comes in tins which should preferably never be opened but if you must only outdoors and downwind of inhabited areas).

It seems to be a Scandinavian failing. I was at college with an
Icelandic chap whose parents would irregularly send their deprived son a package containing dried fish. After the first few times of clearing the
dorm, he was compelled to take the stuff and eat it out in the woods somewhere.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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On 26/06/2026 17:37, Graham Nye wrote:

On 2026-06-25 19:54, Kendall K. Down wrote:

Interesting if your local mosque was using Indian music as its
inspiration. Perhaps if they used guitars and drums and an Abba-style
tune Denmark would be more welcoming?

ABBA are somewhat famously as Swedish as Volvo[1] or rotting, sorry, fermented herring (surstr||mming - comes in tins which should preferably never be opened but if you must only outdoors and downwind of inhabited areas).

My knowledge of Danish pop groups seems to be temporarily escaping me but Google turned up Danish-Norwegian group Aqua whose only song known to me
is irritating Europop hit 'Barbie Girl'. I wouldn't want to be hearing
that five times a day - yowling indeed.

I hadn't realised Aqua are Norwegian, they also had a follow up hit
called Doctor Jones but then nothing.

The first group I thought of was Aha, who had a hit called "The Sun
Always Shines on TV.



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On 2026-06-27 23:41, John wrote:

On 26/06/2026 17:37, Graham Nye wrote:

My knowledge of Danish pop groups seems to be temporarily escaping me but
Google turned up Danish-Norwegian group Aqua whose only song known to me
is irritating Europop hit 'Barbie Girl'. I wouldn't want to be hearing
that five times a day - yowling indeed.

I hadn't realised Aqua are Norwegian, they also had a follow up hit
called Doctor Jones but then nothing.

The first group I thought of was Aha, who had a hit called "The Sun
Always Shines on TV.

Aha are all Norwegian. I would have thought 'Take on me' is better known.
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On 28/06/2026 00:39, Graham Nye wrote:

On 2026-06-27 23:41, John wrote:

On 26/06/2026 17:37, Graham Nye wrote:

My knowledge of Danish pop groups seems to be temporarily escaping me
but
Google turned up Danish-Norwegian group Aqua whose only song known to me >>> is irritating Europop hit 'Barbie Girl'. I wouldn't want to be hearing
that five times a day - yowling indeed.

I hadn't realised Aqua are Norwegian, they also had a follow up hit
called Doctor Jones but then nothing.

The first group I thought of was Aha, who had a hit called "The Sun
Always Shines on TV.

Aha are all Norwegian. I would have thought 'Take on me' is better known.

Probably, but that was the song that came to mind.






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