Steven Spielberg, who is something to do with Hollywood, has produced a
film called "Disclosure Day" which, apparently, is all about aliens and disclosures by the US government indicating that they exist. Spielberg
has, apparently, claimed that his film will be a challenge to the
Christian faith.
Silly man! Christians, more than anyone else, have known for millennia
that there are "aliens" - that is, intelligent life forms that do not originate on earth. God, angels, demons and (I believe) the inhabitants
of other worlds "out there", also created by God.
So the mere fact that there are aliens will not disturb Christians in
the least. However the disclosures that appear to be the heart of this
film may call the aliens into question.
2,000 years of Christianity - and 1500 years of Judaism before it -
would lead me to conclude that angels do not need spacecraft for
transport. They also lead me to conclude that angels do not have bug
eyes and metalic skin (or clothes). Nor is it likely that angels will be found dead beside or inside a crashed spacecraft.
The idea that there might be other worlds "out there" on which God has created life is, I think, hinted at in the Bible but only really became feasible once the extent of the heavens was realised. However let us
assume that there is other created intelligent life out there. I would
be most surprised if they were interested enough in our sinful world to
come and visit and even more surprised if their spacecraft malfunctioned
and crashed.
Fallen angels - referred to by some as "demons" - are pretty much the
same as angels as regards to the need for flying saucers. I do not
believe that they need them nor that they might crash and kill themselves.
On the other hand, I could well imagine evil angels fabricating apparent spacecraft and apparent dead aliens as part of some plot to discredit
God. Spielberg's use of supposed aliens to do precisely that is in
harmony with this scenario.
Many Christians believe that before Jesus returns the devil will mount a counterfeit "coming" of his own. He might find it difficult to replicate
the glory that we associated with God and Jesus or the mass resurrection
of the dead or the taking of the redeemed up to heaven, so might he
obviate all such difficulties by appearing as an alien coming with the solution to all of earth's problems? It would be easy for an alien to dismiss Biblical hopes as ancient imaginations run wild and present
himself as the true god behind the distortions of Biblical prophets and Hindu scriptures.
How would we, as Christians, know that this alien was not the god of our hopes and longings? I suggest the test proposed in Isaiah 8:20 might be
a safe guide. If any god or guru appears and does not "speak according
to" the law and the testimony, there is "no light in them".
It may be their world has come to an end, as indeed our world one day
will be, and be just as sinful as us!
Although only a loose theory of mine, it could be how life began on this planet, if we interpret Genesis 6:1-4 that way-a (I'm not saying we should)
Do demons really exist? It's a New Testament belief and has developed
since then.-a According to a couple of verses in the NT the fallen Angels are currently chained up awaiting their fate.
If the bible is correct in it's description of the end times then I do
agree there will be a false return of Christ (which He Himself warned
about - see below) That may well be a man of false signs and wonders., claiming to be Christ. I'm not sure it will be aliens landing in
spacecraft though.-a (At least we've found out it wasn't Trump)
A clearer example is Matthew 23:24-27. I don't expect Christ to land on
the Earth until after the true believers have gone.
But if according to the Law, that must mean He's only coming back forI understand the passage to mean that a true prophet will speak and act
the Jews.
On 10/06/2026 15:59, John wrote:
Do demons really exist? It's a New Testament belief and has developed
since then.-a According to a couple of verses in the NT the fallen
Angels are currently chained up awaiting their fate.
Job certainly describes satan, the original evil angel. But "chained up"
may simply mean "confined to this earth".
If the bible is correct in it's description of the end times then I do
agree there will be a false return of Christ (which He Himself warned
about - see below) That may well be a man of false signs and wonders.,
claiming to be Christ. I'm not sure it will be aliens landing in
spacecraft though.-a (At least we've found out it wasn't Trump)
I don't know what guise the devil will adopt, but I would caution
against getting any fixed ideas. He will, I am sure, pick an appearance
that will deceive the greatest number of people.
A clearer example is Matthew 23:24-27. I don't expect Christ to land
on the Earth until after the true believers have gone.
I don't see the connection between Jesus' condemnation of the pharisees
and Last Day events.
Jude 1:6 says they are kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness.
I Peter 3:19 could be referencing the same, although I just think that's humans at the time of the flood.
Enoch is much more specific in the fallen angels being bound.
If anyone appears on Earth claiming to be Christ I would not believe
them, the bible is clear that when the Lord comes back He will meet the believers in the air, both those living and those who have died.
Matthew 24 sorry, although you probably knew what I meant.I might have my suspicions about what you meant, but you cannot blame
On 11/06/2026 16:22, John wrote:
Jude 1:6 says they are kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness.
Compared with heaven, earth might indeed seem like "gloomy darkness"!
that's humans at the time of the flood.
The following verse pretty much confirms that the reference is to humans before the Flood.
Enoch is much more specific in the fallen angels being bound.
Enoch is an apocryphal book and most of it is a load of rubbish. Jude
quotes the only verse which is of value. Do you really believe that
there are doors or gates around the edge of the world and depending on
which one is opened, you get the different winds?
If anyone appears on Earth claiming to be Christ I would not believe
them, the bible is clear that when the Lord comes back He will meet
the believers in the air, both those living and those who have died.
How many people these days (including some on uk.r.c) actually believe
the Bible? The majority have never read it or actively oppose it, others will assure you that the plainest statement are poetry and can be ignored.
I skim read part of it when someone reference it on here. Strange that
Jude, the Lords brother, would quote from it and also Peter, whom Jesus revered highly, used it's themes. But you're right, it wasn't considered part of the Jewish OT even in OT times, which I just discovered when checking
Oooh touchy!!-a We will all interpret it different, swayed no doubt byLoved reading the stories is not the same as accepting the authority of
the denomination we associate with. I've read the NT cover to cover
several times.-a The OT only Genesis properly.-a I find the OT very heavy going , I've tried to read Isaiah and Job, but gave up. However I do remember as a child aged 6 having a Childrens Illustrated Bible and
loved reading the old bible stories.
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