• Behold, I tell you a mystery

    From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 13:31:06 2026
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    Following our lively discussion on the ressurection of the body, I am
    reminded of one of my favourite worship songd. Years ago,


    I've searched for it previously but wasn't able to find it, and I've
    just looked again and no avail. I found Handels masterpiece and the
    words were similar, but this was a definite worship song in the late 80's.


    I remember it going something like this

    Behold I tell you a mystery x 2

    ???

    In the moment, in the twinkling of an eye x 2

    And the last trumpet will sound the dead shall be raised incorruptible

    and We shall all be changed x 2

    If anyone can point me to the song I would be grateful.



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  • From GB@NotSomeone@Microsoft.Invalid to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 13:49:31 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 13:31, John wrote:
    Following our lively discussion on the ressurection of the body, I am reminded of one of my favourite worship songd. Years ago,


    I've searched for it previously but wasn't able to find it, and I've
    just looked again and no avail.-a I found Handels masterpiece and the
    words were similar, but this was a definite worship song in the late 80's.


    I remember it going something like this

    Behold I tell you a mystery x 2

    ???

    In the moment, in the twinkling of an eye x 2

    And the last trumpet will sound the dead shall be raised incorruptible

    and We shall all be changed x 2

    If anyone can point me to the song I would be grateful.




    You're thinking of Handel's Messiah perhaps?





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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 15:02:39 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 13:31, John wrote:

    If anyone can point me to the song I would be grateful.
    I'm sorry. It rings no bells.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 15:10:29 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 13:49, GB wrote:

    You're thinking of Handel's Messiah perhaps?
    He specifically indicated that it was not Handel's genius.

    However seeing as you're here, may I make a comment?

    Many years ago I was studying the book of Ezekiel with someone and got
    up to chapter 37. I was aware of various interpretations such as the dry
    bones are the church in need of revival and Ezekiel's vision portrays
    the church brought back to life by God's Spirit. I did not find those interpretations terribly satisfying.

    So I was reading the chapter through carefully and was struck by v. 12
    where God more or less interprets the vision for Ezekiel. It is neither
    more nor less than a description of the utter physicality of the
    resurrection. There is no nonsense about us becoming spirit beings: our scattered bones are gathered together, are clothed with flesh and skin,
    and we come to life and live in a very real world.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From GB@NotSomeone@Microsoft.Invalid to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 18:55:31 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 15:10, Kendall K. Down wrote:
    On 03/06/2026 13:49, GB wrote:

    You're thinking of Handel's Messiah perhaps?
    He specifically indicated that it was not Handel's genius.

    You're right. I missed that.

    Nevertheless, the lyrics so closely follow The Messiah that the song
    John was thinking of may have been based on it?


    However seeing as you're here, may I make a comment?

    Many years ago I was studying the book of Ezekiel with someone and got
    up to chapter 37. I was aware of various interpretations such as the dry bones are the church in need of revival and Ezekiel's vision portrays
    the church brought back to life by God's Spirit. I did not find those interpretations terribly satisfying.

    So I was reading the chapter through carefully and was struck by v. 12
    where God more or less interprets the vision for Ezekiel. It is neither
    more nor less than a description of the utter physicality of the resurrection. There is no nonsense about us becoming spirit beings: our scattered bones are gathered together, are clothed with flesh and skin,
    and we come to life and live in a very real world.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down






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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 20:22:24 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 18:55, GB wrote:

    Nevertheless, the lyrics so closely follow The Messiah that the song
    John was thinking of may have been based on it?

    The Messiah almost verbatim quotes the KJV version of the Bible and in
    this case 1 Corinthians 15, where v. 51 and the first part of 52 are a recitative and then the full choir comes in on the remainder of 52 and
    all of 53 plus 57. I presume that John's song or chorus or whatever it
    was is also based on the 1 Corinthians text rather than based on Handel.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From Mark Goodge@usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 22:06:17 2026
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    On Wed, 3 Jun 2026 13:31:06 +0100, John <megane.06@gmail.com> wrote:

    Following our lively discussion on the ressurection of the body, I am >reminded of one of my favourite worship songd. Years ago,


    I've searched for it previously but wasn't able to find it, and I've
    just looked again and no avail. I found Handels masterpiece and the
    words were similar, but this was a definite worship song in the late 80's.


    I remember it going something like this

    Behold I tell you a mystery x 2

    ???

    In the moment, in the twinkling of an eye x 2

    And the last trumpet will sound the dead shall be raised incorruptible

    and We shall all be changed x 2

    If anyone can point me to the song I would be grateful.

    Behold I tell You a Mystery by Phil Rogers.

    Verse 1

    Behold I tell you a mystery
    Behold I tell you a mystery
    We shall not all sleep
    But we shall all be changed
    In a moment in a twinkling of an eye
    In a moment in a twinkling of an eye

    Chorus

    For the last trumpet shall sound
    And the dead shall be raised incorruptible
    And we shall be changed
    We shall be changed

    Verse 2

    Death is swallow'd up in victory
    Death is swallow'd up in victory
    O death where is your sting
    The sting of death is sin
    But thanks be to God who gives us victory
    Through Jesus Christ our Lord


    CCLI Song # 445994
    - 1984 Thankyou Music Ltd



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  • From Mark Goodge@usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk to uk.religion.christian on Wed Jun 3 22:46:33 2026
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    On Wed, 03 Jun 2026 22:06:17 +0100, I <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
    wrote:

    Behold I tell You a Mystery by Phil Rogers.

    If you want a copy, it's on Downs Worship Volume 4. There's one currently
    going on eBay: https://ebay.us/kjfU8G

    The album is on YouTube, as a single unedited track. Here's this song: https://youtu.be/H4-cKwk2tFo?si=V0XsHTsFFIHg2Ov5&t=1732

    Mark



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  • From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Thu Jun 4 00:56:46 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 18:55, GB wrote:
    On 03/06/2026 15:10, Kendall K. Down wrote:
    On 03/06/2026 13:49, GB wrote:

    You're thinking of Handel's Messiah perhaps?
    He specifically indicated that it was not Handel's genius.

    You're right. I missed that.

    Nevertheless, the lyrics so closely follow The Messiah that the song
    John was thinking of may have been based on it?

    When I was googling the lyrics yesterday, the Handel composition was
    very much the main subject. I think the worship song may very well have
    been based on it, if not the author very closely followed the bible passage.



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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Thu Jun 4 05:34:52 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 22:46, Mark Goodge wrote:

    The album is on YouTube, as a single unedited track. Here's this song: https://youtu.be/H4-cKwk2tFo?si=V0XsHTsFFIHg2Ov5&t=1732

    Handel did it infinitely better!

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Thu Jun 4 00:26:28 2026
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    On 03/06/2026 22:46, Mark Goodge wrote:
    On Wed, 03 Jun 2026 22:06:17 +0100, I <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

    Behold I tell You a Mystery by Phil Rogers.

    If you want a copy, it's on Downs Worship Volume 4. There's one currently going on eBay: https://ebay.us/kjfU8G


    The album is on YouTube, as a single unedited track. Here's this song: https://youtu.be/H4-cKwk2tFo?si=V0XsHTsFFIHg2Ov5&t=1732

    I've just looked at the other tracks. Reconciled was another favourite
    but I remember most of them. I don't own a record player but many thanks
    for the youtube link, very much appreciated.



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