• More on Egyptian words

    From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Fri May 8 11:08:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.religion.christian

    According to that website referenced in another thread, the Hebrew word
    for "reeds" is Egyptian and probably refers to papyrus. Two things
    follow from this:

    The first is that the word "flags" - "suph" - only occurs three times in
    the KJV, twice in the story of Moses and once in Isaiah 19, which is a prophecy against Egypt. However in that same prophecy there is a
    reference to "the paper reeds" ("arah") which is usually understood to
    mean papyrus, the reed which was used so widely in the production of
    writing material. However the NIV simply uses "plants", so it is
    possible the KJV's reference to "paper" is a mistake.

    This would be a disappointment to some who point to the virtual
    disappearance of papyrus from Egypt as a fulfilment of Isaiah 19:7. It
    is not clear why papyrus has ceased to be such a common plant because
    the stuff grows quite happily in various places, including Cairo. I
    suspect that over-harvesting and changes in agriculture are responsible
    rather than climate change.

    The second is that "suph" occurs many more times in the Bible as part of
    "Yam Suph", translated in the KJV as "Red Sea". This has led some to
    suggest that Moses did not lead the Jews across the Gulf of Suez but
    across a shallow portion of the Bitter Lakes. (Quite how pharaoh and his chariots were drowned in such shallow water I leave the doubters to
    explain.) However as the "Bitter" indicates, the lakes are not fresh
    water. So far as I know, papyrus is a fresh-water plant and does not
    grow by the sea or, indeed, by the Bitter Lakes!

    This would seem to indicate that "suph" is not, in fact, papyrus.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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