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It is reported that police in Australia violently broke up an attempt by Muslims to stage a mass prayers in a Sydney street. I do not know
whether the report is true or not, but I'd just like to comment on a
statement I saw, to the effect that Muslims wouldn't do that in their
own countries.

Muslims are required to pray at specified times on five occasions every
day. In Muslim countries the air is made hideous by the howling of
amplified muezzins calling the faithful to prayer. Devout Muslims stop whatever they are doing, get out their prayer mats and go through the
ritual prayers.

When we travelled through Afghanistan in 1958 buses would stop and their passengers would disembark and pray by the side of the road. We did note
that in 1967, when we next travelled through that country, buses no
longer stopped. I'm not sure what the passengers did!

I have seen Muslims in Egypt come out into the street to pray, though admittedly the street involved was a narrow street in a bazaar and
pretty well pedestrianised. I have certainly never seen a major road
blocked by people praying, though I have seen people praying on the
footpath beside a busy road.

*If* the street in Sydney was busy with traffic, then these Muslims were making a political demonstration, not fulfilling the requirements of
religion. They could - and should - have laid out their prayer mats on
the footpath, so the police were quite right to clear them from
obstructing traffic. That is not a requirement of Islam.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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On 01/05/2026 04:13, Kendall K. Down wrote:

It is reported that police in Australia violently broke up an attempt by Muslims to stage a mass prayers in a Sydney street. I do not know
whether the report is true or not, but I'd just like to comment on a statement I saw, to the effect that Muslims wouldn't do that in their
own countries.

The report is true but I'm not sure why you posted it. It is neither
related to Christianity or about the UK. But now that you have, lets
look at a few facts.

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*If* the street in Sydney was busy with traffic, then these Muslims were making a political demonstration, not fulfilling the requirements of religion. They could - and should - have laid out their prayer mats on
the footpath, so the police were quite right to clear them from
obstructing traffic. That is not a requirement of Islam.

Fact 1 - they were on the pavement

Fact 2 - They had sought permission from the police beforehand,
obviously that wasn't relayed to the officers on the street.

Fact 3 - I'm not sure what you consider a mass prayer event, but there
were approximately a dozen people involved.

You could have binged all that beforehand rather than hope your readers
would be gullible enough to accept your "aspersions" at face value.

But this seems to be the way these days, post something on social media
and hope their readers don't do some fact checking. I've come across
this twice already today.

On Tik Tok someone posted a commentary that the two Muslim brothers
involved in a fracas with a male police officer at Manchester Airport
had been found guilty, despite the trial having another two weeks to go.

Lots of silly comments including if they'd been English they would be
spending 10 years in jail but will probably get off with a slap on the
wrist.

My mate sent me a short video of George Galloway having a rant about the
Home Secretary removing British citizenship from an Englishman. Mr
Galloway gave no reason as to why and placed great emphasis on Mrs
Mahmood being a Pakistani (she was born in Britain) woman removing
citizenship from a pure bred (!) Englishman.

Mr Galloway gave no reason as to why citizenship had been removed but a
bit of fact checking tells us the person concerned had been allegedly
passing information to the Russians when he was a police officer. He
has lived in Russia for several years and has Russian citizenship.



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On 03/05/2026 21:42, John wrote:

Mr Galloway gave no reason as to why citizenship had been removed but a
bit of fact checking tells us the person concerned had been allegedly passing information to the Russians when he was a police officer.-a He
has lived in Russia for several years and has Russian citizenship.

You're talking about Mark Bullen. The reasons why he was deprived of his citizenship remain classified. However, that doesn't mean the
deprivation was not well-deserved. We just don't know.

One journalist speculated that he might have disclosed the Skripals'
address, but I think that was pure guesswork without any evidence.



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On 04/05/2026 10:15, GB wrote:

On 03/05/2026 21:42, John wrote:

Mr Galloway gave no reason as to why citizenship had been removed but
a bit of fact checking tells us the person concerned had been
allegedly passing information to the Russians when he was a police
officer.-a He has lived in Russia for several years and has Russian
citizenship.

You're talking about Mark Bullen. The reasons why he was deprived of his citizenship remain classified. However, that doesn't mean the
deprivation was not well-deserved. We just don't know.

Yes indeed, it was why I said allegedly. After seeing the clip, I
googled it and found there was more to the story than Mr Galloway had
posted, which in my opinion was deliberately misleading, wiith the
intent of stirring up racial hatred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X444-I54VA





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On 04/05/2026 11:35, John wrote:

On 04/05/2026 10:15, GB wrote:

On 03/05/2026 21:42, John wrote:

Mr Galloway gave no reason as to why citizenship had been removed but
a bit of fact checking tells us the person concerned had been
allegedly passing information to the Russians when he was a police
officer.-a He has lived in Russia for several years and has Russian
citizenship.

You're talking about Mark Bullen. The reasons why he was deprived of
his citizenship remain classified. However, that doesn't mean the
deprivation was not well-deserved. We just don't know.

Yes indeed, it was why I said allegedly.-a After seeing the clip, I
googled it and found there was more to the story than Mr Galloway had posted, which in my opinion was deliberately misleading, wiith the
intent of stirring up racial hatred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X444-I54VA

He's now living in Russia, which I suppose helps explain his interest in
Mark Bullen. He moved to Russia in protest at his arrest by UK police.
I'm sure he'll find the Russian police much nicer.

I haven't seen much of Mr Galloway before. I can't say that I warmed to
him.



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On 04/05/2026 13:52, GB wrote:

On 04/05/2026 11:35, John wrote:

On 04/05/2026 10:15, GB wrote:

On 03/05/2026 21:42, John wrote:

Mr Galloway gave no reason as to why citizenship had been removed
but a bit of fact checking tells us the person concerned had been
allegedly passing information to the Russians when he was a police
officer.-a He has lived in Russia for several years and has Russian
citizenship.

You're talking about Mark Bullen. The reasons why he was deprived of
his citizenship remain classified. However, that doesn't mean the
deprivation was not well-deserved. We just don't know.

Yes indeed, it was why I said allegedly.-a After seeing the clip, I
googled it and found there was more to the story than Mr Galloway had
posted, which in my opinion was deliberately misleading, wiith the
intent of stirring up racial hatred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X444-I54VA

He's now living in Russia, which I suppose helps explain his interest in Mark Bullen. He moved to Russia in protest at his arrest by UK police.
I'm sure he'll find the Russian police much nicer.

Oh, I thought he was an independent MP, having won a by-election in
2024. It appears he was ousted in the General Election of the same year.

I haven't seen much of Mr Galloway before. I can't say that I warmed to
him.

Me neither.



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On 03/05/2026 21:42, John wrote:

The report is true but I'm not sure why you posted it.-a It is neither related to Christianity or about the UK.

It provided a convenient handle for me to comment on what I have
witnessed in Muslim lands.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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On 05/05/2026 21:28, Kendall K. Down wrote:

On 03/05/2026 21:42, John wrote:

The report is true but I'm not sure why you posted it.-a It is neither
related to Christianity or about the UK.

It provided a convenient handle for me to comment on what I have
witnessed in Muslim lands.

Given GB has also posted something not related to Christianity (although
the title could make a claim that it is :-) ) and you have let it
pass, I apologise to you for my comment above. I appreciate you run a
light hand when it comes to moderation and I shouldn't have made the
comment.



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On 06/05/2026 23:21, John wrote:

Given GB has also posted something not related to Christianity (although
the title could make a claim that it is :-)-a )-a and you have let it
pass, I apologise to you for my comment above.-a I appreciate you run a light hand when it comes to moderation and I shouldn't have made the comment.

No apology necessary. My attitude is that a poster who is willing to
engage in discussion is part of a conversation which may or may not be strictly "on topic" but which will eventually come round to something
"on topic". What I object to is someone who just posts something
controversial and then disappears without engaging in the conversation.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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