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Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our Almighty
Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His only begotten
Son??




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On 07/04/2026 18:38, mick falconer wrote:

Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our Almighty Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His only begotten Son??

I feel helpless, watching a slow motion train crash.





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mick falconer <hermeneutika@msn.cpm> wrote:

Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our Almighty Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His only begotten Son??

Well I think we have all been praying that God's will, whatever that might
be, will be done
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On 07/04/2026 18:38, mick falconer wrote:

Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our Almighty Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His only begotten Son??

We all need to pray for peace at this time particularly. The world has
gone mad and everybody seems to be powerless to stop the catastrophe
that is unfolding before our eyes. None of it makes sense.

Tim.




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On 07/04/2026 18:38, mick falconer wrote:

Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our Almighty Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His only begotten Son??

It looks like your prayers were heard Michael, disaster was avoided at
the last minute. It's going to be a tricky 2 weeks though, as Mr Trump changes his mind daily.

However methinks that Mr Trump thought it was going to be a quick in and
out regime change, similar to what hapopened in Venezuala, and hadn't
banked on the resiliance of the Iranian leadership. His popularity has plummeted at home, and his ego will be bruised.

Hopoefully common sense will prevail, but much as I dislike the current
labour leadership, I'm immensely grateful Kier Starmer didn't follow
Donald Trump into war.



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On 07/04/2026 18:38, mick falconer wrote:

Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our Almighty Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His only begotten Son??

By all means. It can never be wrong to pray for peace. On the other
hand, Jesus predicted that there would be "wars and rumours of war" in
the time before His return, so the chances that God will give such a
prayer a positive answer are, I should think, fairly small.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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On 07/04/2026 21:07, GB wrote:

I feel helpless, watching a slow motion train crash.

Indeed. It really would appear that Trump has learned nothing from the
fiasco in Iraq.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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On 08/04/2026 14:07, John wrote:

Hopoefully common sense will prevail, but much as I dislike the current labour leadership, I'm immensely grateful Kier Starmer didn't follow
Donald Trump into war.

I doubt Starmer's motives were creditable, though.

God bless,
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* "Kendall K. Down" <10r67db$3q6ov$1@dont-email.me> :
Wrote on Wed, 8 Apr 2026 19:39:39 +0100:

By all means. It can never be wrong to pray for peace. On the other
hand, Jesus predicted that there would be "wars and rumours of war" in
the time before His return, so the chances that God will give such a
prayer a positive answer are, I should think, fairly small.

if you take this course of praying for peace in situations where god
seems to have determined otherwise (e.g. samuel interceding for Saul)
there is risk of violating the commandment I never understood, that of
taking God's name in "vain", (i.e. ineffectively). but i think the
majority of evidence (shown by Moses and the rest) indicates there
should be no cessation of prayer for peace: one is to say "shalom
jerusalem" even if it superficially appears to be hypocricy.





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On 09/04/2026 02:35, Madhu wrote:

if you take this course of praying for peace in situations where god
seems to have determined otherwise (e.g. samuel interceding for Saul)
there is risk of violating the commandment I never understood, that of
taking God's name in "vain", (i.e. ineffectively). but i think the
majority of evidence (shown by Moses and the rest) indicates there
should be no cessation of prayer for peace: one is to say "shalom
jerusalem" even if it superficially appears to be hypocricy.

I don't think taking God's name in vain means "ineffectually". Remember,
this is 17th century English, not 20th century. Back in those days a
"vain fellow" was not someone with a high opinion of himself, but
someone light, not to be taken seriously, a twit. So taking God's name
in vain is to use it lightly, not seriously.

Jesus, I think, had this in mind when He forbade people to swear,
especially using God's name. I've had people "swear by God" that the
weather was fine (or otherwise) or that a family member said this or
that during a quarrel, or that a pizza was over-priced.

I agree with your final point, however. One can always pray for peace,
though the example you cite - praying for Jerusalem - is probably not in
the same category as praying for peace with Iran.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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On 08/04/2026 19:39, Kendall K. Down wrote:

On 07/04/2026 18:38, mick falconer wrote:

Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for
peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the
Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our Almighty
Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His only
begotten Son??

By all means. It can never be wrong to pray for peace. On the other
hand, Jesus predicted that there would be "wars and rumours of war" in
the time before His return, so the chances that God will give such a
prayer a positive answer are, I should think, fairly small.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down

Yes i am sure you are right....i have often pondered on this....as most
if not all prophecy seems to predict doom and gloom!!! At least
initially until the final return of Christ.....yet of course most ladies
would not like your answer!!!! When i point out such things i get
shouted down!!!



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On 08/04/2026 19:40, Kendall K. Down wrote:

On 07/04/2026 21:07, GB wrote:

I feel helpless, watching a slow motion train crash.

Indeed. It really would appear that Trump has learned nothing from the fiasco in Iraq.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down

Weapons of mass destruction anyone.....two weeks until they have a
nuclear bomb capability.......otoh allegedly or apparently the Iranian
regime is so wicked and evil that there is nothing to do except bomb
them back to the stone age!!!



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On 09/04/2026 02:35, Madhu wrote:

* "Kendall K. Down" <10r67db$3q6ov$1@dont-email.me> :
Wrote on Wed, 8 Apr 2026 19:39:39 +0100:

By all means. It can never be wrong to pray for peace. On the other
hand, Jesus predicted that there would be "wars and rumours of war" in
the time before His return, so the chances that God will give such a
prayer a positive answer are, I should think, fairly small.

if you take this course of praying for peace in situations where god
seems to have determined otherwise (e.g. samuel interceding for Saul)
there is risk of violating the commandment I never understood, that of
taking God's name in "vain", (i.e. ineffectively). but i think the
majority of evidence (shown by Moses and the rest) indicates there
should be no cessation of prayer for peace: one is to say "shalom
jerusalem" even if it superficially appears to be hypocricy.

Well Amen to that!



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In article <10r67db$3q6ov$1@dont-email.me>,
Kendall K. Down <kendallkdown@googlemail.com> wrote:

On 07/04/2026 18:38, mick falconer wrote:

Maybe i move in the wrong circles but i have not heard any prayers for peace....We are potentially on the verge of a major escalation by the Americans and the Israelis. Perhaps some one ought to ask Our
Almighty Father God for Peace in the Middle East in the Name of His
only begotten Son??

By all means. It can never be wrong to pray for peace. On the other
hand, Jesus predicted that there would be "wars and rumours of war" in
the time before His return, so the chances that God will give such a
prayer a positive answer are, I should think, fairly small.

We should remember that God himself instigated wars to serve His purposes.

When the Israelites entered the promised land, and when he used the
Babylonians to punish Israel for her idolatory, for example. Israel was
even commanded to commit genocide on occasions.

If we believe that God really does appoint our leaders, then we have to
accept that, not only was Trump appointed as president, but God did save
him from the assasins bullet.

Which is why I simply pray the His will, will be done.
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On 10/04/2026 15:22, hermeneutika wrote:

On 08/04/2026 19:40, Kendall K. Down wrote:

On 07/04/2026 21:07, GB wrote:

I feel helpless, watching a slow motion train crash.

Indeed. It really would appear that Trump has learned nothing from the
fiasco in Iraq.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down

Weapons of mass destruction anyone.....two weeks until they have a
nuclear bomb capability.......otoh allegedly or apparently the Iranian regime is so wicked and evil that there is nothing to do except bomb
them back to the stone age!!!

If, and I agree it's a big if, Iran had a nuclear bomb, I have no doubt
at all that there are some people with influence in the regime who would
want to use it. They would welcome martyrdom, on behalf of their
population (who haven't been consulted), even if it means starting WW3.
They have said as much.

For the best part of a century, nobody with a nuclear bomb has wanted to
start Armageddon, but some of those in power in Iran are different. They
think it is their duty.

I'm not quite an old man, but I'm getting that way. Nuclear annihilation doesn't bother me too much on my own behalf, as I haven't got too much
to lose. But, I think of all the young people, with their lives ahead of
them, and a nuclear Iran would simply not be fair to them.

I suspect that Trump's "two weeks" was an exaggeration, but two months
or two years... They have to be stopped from getting nuclear weapons.



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GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:

If, and I agree it's a big if, Iran had a nuclear bomb, I have no doubt
at all that there are some people with influence in the regime who would want to use it. They would welcome martyrdom, on behalf of their
population (who haven't been consulted), even if it means starting WW3.
They have said as much.

For the best part of a century, nobody with a nuclear bomb has wanted to start Armageddon, but some of those in power in Iran are different. They think it is their duty.

I'm not quite an old man, but I'm getting that way. Nuclear annihilation doesn't bother me too much on my own behalf, as I haven't got too much
to lose. But, I think of all the young people, with their lives ahead of them, and a nuclear Iran would simply not be fair to them.

I suspect that Trump's "two weeks" was an exaggeration, but two months
or two years... They have to be stopped from getting nuclear weapons.

You are absolutly correct, they all want their 72 virgins.

Hadith 4337

It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah (?) said:
oThere is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry
him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance
from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages
and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).Ao


Narrated Al-Miqdam bin Ma'diykarib: That the Messenger of Allah (?) said:
There are six things with Allah for the martyr. He is forgiven with the
first flow of blood (he suffers), he is shown his place in Paradise, he is protected from punishment in the grave, secured from the greatest terror,
the crown of dignity is placed upon his head - and its gems are better
than the world and what is in it - he is married to seventy two wives
along Al-Huril-'Ayn of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his
close relatives. [Abu 'Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan Sahih.
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On 10/04/2026 18:42, GB wrote:

For the best part of a century, nobody with a nuclear bomb has wanted to start Armageddon, but some of those in power in Iran are different. They think it is their duty.

This is certainly the West's nightmare, that fanatics might get hold of nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, ideologically motivated individuals are
wiling to help in such matters. One thinks of those who helped Russia
develop nuclear weapons in an earlier generation, now you have Muslims
helping fellow Muslims in the same direction. Alas, I strongly suspect
that Jews have helped fellow Jews build up Israel's nuclear arsenal.

Once the nuclear genie was out of the bottle, attempts to put it back in
or to limit its spread will always be defeated by human stupidity.

God bless,
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On 10/04/2026 15:17, hermeneutika wrote:

Yes i am sure you are right....i have often pondered on this....as most
if not all prophecy seems to predict doom and gloom!!! At least
initially until the final return of Christ.

The reason is simple: so long as there are sinful, unregenerate people,
so long there will be doom and gloom. The two are inseperable.

....yet of course most ladies
would not like your answer!!!! When i point out such things i get
shouted down!!!

People just never think about their prayers. I know people who regularly
pray that God will heal all the sick people in all the world. I know
someone who earnestly prays that God will look after all the animals (in
all the world) and then sits down to a non-vegetarian supper, thereby defeating her own prayers!

God bless,
Kendall K. Down
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