• Nigeria and America Churches

    From mick falconer@hermeneutika@msn.cpm to uk.religion.christian on Mon Jan 19 23:18:19 2026
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    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/more-than-160-christian-worshippers-are-kidnapped-in-raids-on-multiple-churches-in-nigeria/ar-AA1UwMHk?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Just seen these headlines from Nigeria.

    and then

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/don-lemon-minnesota-church-ice-b2903053.html

    I feel that perhaps we should pray into these situations??




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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Tue Jan 20 06:49:15 2026
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    On 19/01/2026 23:18, mick falconer wrote:

    Just seen these headlines from Nigeria.

    Then you are way behind the news. Christians have been under attack from Muslims in northern Nigeria for years now.

    and then

    I have no idea of the rights and wrongs of the case, but I do feel that demonstrating in a church and during a service is disrespectful to God.

    I feel that perhaps we should pray into these situations??

    Praying into is, of course, far superior to praying over or about or
    under or around or through or just about any other preposition. Once you
    have prayed into, do you mix thoroughly with a whisk or a fork?

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Feb 1 22:59:08 2026
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    On 20/01/2026 06:49, Kendall K. Down wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 23:18, mick falconer wrote:

    Just seen these headlines from Nigeria.

    Then you are way behind the news. Christians have been under attack from Muslims in northern Nigeria for years now.

    The attackers weren't Muslim, both Christians and Muslims are under
    attack from outlaws in the region.


    and then

    I have no idea of the rights and wrongs of the case, but I do feel that demonstrating in a church and during a service is disrespectful to God.

    It happened because one of the Pastors is an official of ICE in the
    local area, Would God be on the side of Christian Nationalists
    worshipping, or the unjustified killing of a local woman, a few days
    prior, by an ICE agent?



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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Mon Feb 2 06:14:07 2026
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    On 01/02/2026 22:59, John wrote:

    The attackers weren't Muslim, both Christians and Muslims are under
    attack from outlaws in the region.

    If that is true of the specific case you have in mind, fair enough.
    However my comment remains: Muslims have been attacking and killing
    Christians in Nigeria for years.

    It happened because one of the Pastors is an official of ICE in the
    local area, Would God be on the side of Christian Nationalists
    worshipping, or the unjustified killing of a local woman, a few days
    prior, by an ICE agent?
    By all means protest against this pastor, but don't disrupt a church
    service or invade a church.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From Graham Nye@nospam@thenyes.org.uk to uk.religion.christian on Thu Feb 5 21:53:11 2026
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    On 2026-02-01 22:59, John wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 06:49, Kendall K. Down wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 23:18, mick falconer wrote:

    Just seen these headlines from Nigeria.

    Then you are way behind the news. Christians have been under attack from
    Muslims in northern Nigeria for years now.

    The attackers weren't Muslim, both Christians and Muslims are under
    attack from outlaws in the region.

    Muslim groups have been attacking other Muslims, Christians and people
    of no faith in Nigeria. Some examples:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgvllk3lx9o

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/02/05/nigeria-attack-kwara-islamic-militants/42439a5a-0290-11f1-ad9f-6f689ec6b060_story.html

    https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20260205-armed-islamist-extremists-kill-162-in-western-nigeria-villages

    https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/nigeria/safety-and-security

    https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2022/nigeria
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    Graham Nye
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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Fri Feb 6 06:07:14 2026
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    On 05/02/2026 21:53, Graham Nye wrote:

    Muslim groups have been attacking other Muslims, Christians and people
    of no faith in Nigeria. Some examples:

    Oh, but it's all right, Graham. You see, these Muslims are outlaws, so
    that means that their attacks on people who disagree with them don't count.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From Madhu@enometh@meer.net to uk.religion.christian on Fri Feb 6 14:54:00 2026
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    * "Kendall K. Down" <10m40eg$3svsg$1@dont-email.me> :
    Wrote on Fri, 6 Feb 2026 06:07:14 +0000:
    Oh, but it's all right, Graham. You see, these Muslims are outlaws, so
    that means that their attacks on people who disagree with them don't
    count.

    The important thing for us is not to put a communal spin on random
    senseless (usually, banker sponsored) violence.



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  • From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Feb 8 10:37:02 2026
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    On 07/02/2026 22:20, Kendall K. Down wrote:
    On 07/02/2026 11:23, John wrote:

    Links checked.-a I stand corrected in believing they were non Muslim,
    but they are Muslim in the same context the KKK are Christian. Unless
    you believe Jihadists are the true Muslims.
    The point is arguable. The majority of Muslims are not jihadists, but
    the majority of Muslims are about as devoted to their religion as the average person who puts CofE on his census form. Jihad is certainly
    built into Islam through the example of their prophet and the writings
    of the Qur'an.

    Whilst I would, to some extent, agree with your last sentence, was that intended to last throughout history or was it simply written for a time
    when Muslims were fighting other people.

    Paul said it was fine to keep slaves, I'm sure you would agree it
    wouldn't be right to do that today.



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  • From Graham Nye@nospam@thenyes.org.uk to uk.religion.christian on Sun Feb 8 21:43:54 2026
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    On 2026-02-07 11:23, John wrote:
    On 05/02/2026 21:53, Graham Nye wrote:
    On 2026-02-01 22:59, John wrote:


    The attackers weren't Muslim, both Christians and Muslims are under
    attack from outlaws in the region.

    Muslim groups have been attacking other Muslims, Christians and people
    of no faith in Nigeria. Some examples:

    Links checked. I stand corrected in believing they were non Muslim, but
    they are Muslim in the same context the KKK are Christian. Unless you
    believe Jihadists are the true Muslims.

    Well, each jihadist group believe only they are the true Muslims,
    leading to the violent results you saw in the links you read.
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  • From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Feb 8 23:45:28 2026
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    On 08/02/2026 21:43, Graham Nye wrote:
    On 2026-02-07 11:23, John wrote:
    On 05/02/2026 21:53, Graham Nye wrote:
    On 2026-02-01 22:59, John wrote:


    The attackers weren't Muslim, both Christians and Muslims are under
    attack from outlaws in the region.

    Muslim groups have been attacking other Muslims, Christians and people
    of no faith in Nigeria. Some examples:

    Links checked.-a I stand corrected in believing they were non Muslim, but
    they are Muslim in the same context the KKK are Christian. Unless you
    believe Jihadists are the true Muslims.

    Well, each jihadist group believe only they are the true Muslims,
    leading to the violent results you saw in the links you read.

    Do you believe them to be?




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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Mon Feb 9 06:45:23 2026
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    On 08/02/2026 10:37, John wrote:

    Whilst I would, to some extent, agree with your last sentence, was that intended to last throughout history or was it simply written for a time
    when Muslims were fighting other people.

    It was written *at* a time when Muslims were fighting, but Muslim belief
    does not limit the Qur'an to time. They hold that it is valid for all time

    Paul said it was fine to keep slaves, I'm sure you would agree it
    wouldn't be right to do that today.

    Of course not, but I'm a Christian. I do not take the Bible without
    regard to time and culture. Muslims, on the other hand, believe that the Qur'an was dictated by God and every word is valid and imperative for
    all time.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Mon Feb 9 06:46:37 2026
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    On 08/02/2026 21:43, Graham Nye wrote:

    Well, each jihadist group believe only they are the true Muslims,
    leading to the violent results you saw in the links you read.

    Which is why last week Daesh bombed a mosque in Pakistan, killing
    numerous Muslims, but the wrong brand of Muslims, so that's all right.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Mon Feb 9 06:48:23 2026
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    On 08/02/2026 23:45, John wrote:

    Well, each jihadist group believe only they are the true Muslims,
    leading to the violent results you saw in the links you read.

    Do you believe them to be?
    A bit of a silly question. Graham is not a Muslim, he does not support
    Islam, his views have nothing to do with the murderous rampages of
    Muslim groups against each other or against non-Muslims.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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