• Isn't it an eiderdown?

    From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.co.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 10:24:39 2026
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    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
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    Jim the Geordie
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 10:40:53 2026
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    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any doovay.

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  • From chrisnd@privacy.net@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 11:01:49 2026
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    On 10/08/2026 10:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any doovay.

    That's because they were filled with down from eider ducks
    HTH :-)

    Chris
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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 14:32:18 2026
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    On 10/08/2026 11:01, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any
    doovay.

    That's because they were filled with down from eider ducks
    HTH :-)

    Chris



    and some of us had complete mattresses stuffed with it - all held
    together in a tough striped (featherproof) fabric which may have been
    called "ticking"


    ... and I have a feeling that the other word you are looking for might
    be "counterpane" ?
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  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 16:55:11 2026
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    chrisnd@privacy.net <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any doovay. >>
    That's because they were filled with down from eider ducks
    HTH :-)

    Chris


    The discovery of rCLpluckingrCY was a major advance in the manufacture of eiderdowns.

    Tim
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.co.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 18:22:58 2026
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    In article <115cjsu$35m2o$1@dont-email.me>, that.bloke@microsoft.com
    says...

    On 10/08/2026 11:01, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am >>> amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any
    doovay.

    That's because they were filled with down from eider ducks
    HTH :-)

    Chris



    and some of us had complete mattresses stuffed with it - all held
    together in a tough striped (featherproof) fabric which may have been
    called "ticking"


    ... and I have a feeling that the other word you are looking for might
    be "counterpane" ?

    My point (trivial though it is) is that stitching the cover on a duvet
    is nothing new. Like lipstick on a pig.
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    Jim the Geordie
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  • From Mike Spencer@mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 14:46:00 2026
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    Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.

    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)


    Since eiderdown is a real thing, if the product in question is filled
    with something else -- say, some synthetic flock -- it might be
    illegal in some places to call them "eiderdown". You know, "shake"
    instead of "milkshake" at McDonald's because "milk" is a real thing.
    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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  • From hubops@hubops@ccanoemail.com to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 13:51:10 2026
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    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:24:39 +0100, Jim the Geordie
    <jim@geordieland.co.uk> wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am >amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)




    Here's a link for your eiderdown duvet shopping :

    https://icelandicdown.com/product/eiderdown-duvet/

    ... $ 9000.00 if you want a warm model.

    John T.
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.rec.sheds on Mon Aug 10 21:15:28 2026
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    On 10/08/2026 18:51, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:24:39 +0100, Jim the Geordie
    <jim@geordieland.co.uk> wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)




    Here's a link for your eiderdown duvet shopping :

    https://icelandicdown.com/product/eiderdown-duvet/

    ... $ 9000.00 if you want a warm model.

    Most "Duvets" do not contain any down (from an eider duck or any other
    bird), many use an artificial fibre.

    Advertising something as an "Eiderdown" which doesn't contain down from Somateria mollissima[1] is asking for trouble.

    [1] Posh for Eider duck.
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    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Julian Macassey@julian@n6are.com to uk.rec.sheds on Tue Aug 11 08:51:23 2026
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    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:24:39 +0100,
    Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> wrote:
    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)

    No, eiderdowns were what you put on top of the sheets abd
    blankets. Yes the posh ones were made of the feathers of the
    eider duck.

    The Nordic countries, including Germany eschewed blankets
    for down enclosed in a large case for easy cleaning.
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  • From Julian Macassey@julian@n6are.com to uk.rec.sheds on Tue Aug 11 08:54:48 2026
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    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:01:49 +0100, chrisnd@privacy.net <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any doovay. >>
    That's because they were filled with down from eider ducks
    HTH :-)

    The down from eider ducks is extremely light and
    expensive, most "Eiderdowna encoubtered in the UK were regular
    chicken fearthers.
    --
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    fight for it. - Aneurin Bevan
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.rec.sheds on Tue Aug 11 20:35:22 2026
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    On 11/08/2026 09:54, Julian Macassey wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:01:49 +0100, chrisnd@privacy.net <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am >>>> amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any doovay. >>>
    That's because they were filled with down from eider ducks
    HTH :-)

    The down from eider ducks is extremely light and
    expensive, most "Eiderdowna encoubtered in the UK were regular
    chicken fearthers.

    "For that price I expect the whole duck!"
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Tahiri@tahiri2@tanygraig.force9.co.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 09:01:17 2026
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    On 10/08/2026 10:24, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)


    Perhaps this is where the low number of females in the group is letting
    you down.
    We have established that a quilt should only be an eiderdown if it has
    the correct filling, but the OP was comparing them with duvets. The
    difference between a 'quilt' or eiderdown and a 'continental quilt' (the
    word duvet came later) was that a quilt stopped at the edge of the bed,
    but a continental quilt draped untidily down the sides. It had to do
    that because it was trying to do away with sheets and blankets. Which
    was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing one layer aside.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 09:08:19 2026
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    Tahiri wrote:

    Perhaps this is where the low number of females in the group is letting
    you down.
    We have established that a quilt should only be an eiderdown if it has
    the correct filling, but the OP was comparing them with duvets. The difference between a 'quilt' or eiderdown and a 'continental quilt' (the word duvet came later) was that a quilt stopped at the edge of the bed,
    but a continental quilt draped untidily down the sides. It had to do
    that because it was trying to do away with sheets and blankets. Which
    was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing one layer aside.

    And without blankets and candlewick covers, no getting tucked-in.

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  • From brian@nospam@b-howie.co.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 09:40:48 2026
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    In message <115h98f$ke7u$1@dont-email.me>, Tahiri <tahiri2@tanygraig.force9.co.uk> writes
    . It had to do that because it was trying to do away with sheets and >blankets. Which was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing
    different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing
    one layer aside.

    A 3 tog night .

    B
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    Brian Howie
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  • From Richard Robinson@richard@qualmograph.org.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 12:28:36 2026
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    brian said:
    In message <115h98f$ke7u$1@dont-email.me>, Tahiri
    <tahiri2@tanygraig.force9.co.uk> writes
    . It had to do that because it was trying to do away with sheets and >>blankets. Which was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing >>different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing
    one layer aside.

    A 3 tog night .

    *grin*
    --
    Richard Robinson
    "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

    My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
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  • From Richard Robinson@richard@qualmograph.org.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 12:35:10 2026
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    Tahiri said:
    On 10/08/2026 10:24, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)


    Perhaps this is where the low number of females in the group is letting
    you down.
    We have established that a quilt should only be an eiderdown if it has
    the correct filling, but the OP was comparing them with duvets. The difference between a 'quilt' or eiderdown and a 'continental quilt' (the word duvet came later) was that a quilt stopped at the edge of the bed,
    but a continental quilt draped untidily down the sides. It had to do
    that because it was trying to do away with sheets and blankets. Which
    was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing one layer aside.

    The first time I met a quilt on "the" continent (Austria, c.1970), it
    was the size of the bed with a strip of cloth tacked on one side to go
    under the mattress & hold it in place. I've no idea what it was stuffed
    with.

    The thing about doing away with the sheet is more washing for the
    replacement, which'll be heavier. Hence duvet-covers. I wish I could
    find one that'd stay attached to the duvet.

    And there's nothing to stop you putting a blanket over a duvet.
    --
    Richard Robinson
    "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

    My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.co.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 17:58:10 2026
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    In article <115hp9t$q3f2$2@dont-email.me>, richard@qualmograph.org.uk
    says...

    Tahiri said:
    On 10/08/2026 10:24, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)


    Perhaps this is where the low number of females in the group is letting you down.
    We have established that a quilt should only be an eiderdown if it has
    the correct filling, but the OP was comparing them with duvets. The difference between a 'quilt' or eiderdown and a 'continental quilt' (the word duvet came later) was that a quilt stopped at the edge of the bed, but a continental quilt draped untidily down the sides. It had to do
    that because it was trying to do away with sheets and blankets. Which
    was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing one layer aside.

    The first time I met a quilt on "the" continent (Austria, c.1970), it
    was the size of the bed with a strip of cloth tacked on one side to go
    under the mattress & hold it in place. I've no idea what it was stuffed
    with.

    The thing about doing away with the sheet is more washing for the replacement, which'll be heavier. Hence duvet-covers. I wish I could
    find one that'd stay attached to the duvet.

    And there's nothing to stop you putting a blanket over a duvet.

    Or taking off the cover and just sleeping under that.
    I usually arrange with Premier Inn to do that for me as their duvets are
    too hot for us.
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  • From Jim The Geordie@jim@jimXscott.co.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 18:13:10 2026
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    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:40:53 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)
    The eiderdowns I encountered where a damned sight heavier than any doovay.

    Perhaps I meant Quilt, but whatever, they are nothing new.
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    Jim the Geordie
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 20:22:14 2026
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    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    richard@qualmograph.org says...

    there's nothing to stop you putting a blanket over a duvet.

    Or taking off the cover and just sleeping under that.
    Yeah, I've just had a sheet below and an empty duvet cover above for
    several weeks ... even that's sometimes rolled back.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.rec.sheds on Wed Aug 12 22:11:28 2026
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    On 12/08/2026 09:01, Tahiri wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:24, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)


    Perhaps this is where the low number of females in the group is letting
    you down.
    We have established that a quilt should only be an eiderdown if it has
    the correct filling, but the OP was comparing them with duvets. The difference between a 'quilt' or eiderdown and a 'continental quilt' (the word duvet came later) was that a quilt stopped at the edge of the bed,
    but a continental quilt draped untidily down the sides. It had to do
    that because it was trying to do away with sheets and blankets. Which
    was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing one layer aside.

    Plus also as well, an Eiderdown would be on top of your usual sheet and blankets[1][2] - whilst the duvet replaces those items.

    [1] In the days of:
    "Heating? In a bedroom!?! It's normal to have ice on the inside of the window."

    [2] You can't do hospital corners with a duvet.

    Oh! Also the 'cover' on an Eiderdown would be sewn on, not removable.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to uk.rec.sheds on Thu Aug 13 10:00:31 2026
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    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 22:11:28 +0100
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 12/08/2026 09:01, Tahiri wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:24, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)


    Perhaps this is where the low number of females in the group is letting you down.
    We have established that a quilt should only be an eiderdown if it has
    the correct filling, but the OP was comparing them with duvets. The difference between a 'quilt' or eiderdown and a 'continental quilt' (the word duvet came later) was that a quilt stopped at the edge of the bed, but a continental quilt draped untidily down the sides. It had to do
    that because it was trying to do away with sheets and blankets. Which
    was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing different duvets for different temperatures instead of just throwing one layer aside.

    Plus also as well, an Eiderdown would be on top of your usual sheet and blankets[1][2] - whilst the duvet replaces those items.

    [1] In the days of:
    "Heating? In a bedroom!?! It's normal to have ice on the inside of the window."

    Ice? you were loocky, I 'ad snowdrifts. "Plenty of ventilation"


    [2] You can't do hospital corners with a duvet.

    Oh! Also the 'cover' on an Eiderdown would be sewn on, not removable.

    --
    Sam Plusnet
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From Richard Robinson@richard@qualmograph.org.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Thu Aug 13 20:04:03 2026
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    Sam Plusnet said:
    On 12/08/2026 09:01, Tahiri wrote:
    On 10/08/2026 10:24, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Forgive me if I have already posted this as senilty creeps in, but I am
    amused by the ads circulating at the moment for duvets 'with fitted
    covers'.
    Didn't we call them eiderdowns? :)


    Perhaps this is where the low number of females in the group is letting
    you down.
    We have established that a quilt should only be an eiderdown if it has
    the correct filling, but the OP was comparing them with duvets. The
    difference between a 'quilt' or eiderdown and a 'continental quilt' (the
    word duvet came later) was that a quilt stopped at the edge of the bed,
    but a continental quilt draped untidily down the sides. It had to do
    that because it was trying to do away with sheets and blankets. Which
    was a nice marketing ploy resulting in you needing different duvets for
    different temperatures instead of just throwing one layer aside.

    Plus also as well, an Eiderdown would be on top of your usual sheet and blankets[1][2] - whilst the duvet replaces those items.

    [1] In the days of:
    "Heating? In a bedroom!?! It's normal to have ice on the inside of the window."

    [2] You can't do hospital corners with a duvet.

    Oh! Also the 'cover' on an Eiderdown would be sewn on, not removable.

    And therefore more ofa nuisance to wash and dry.
    --
    Richard Robinson
    "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

    My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
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  • From Peter@myshed@prune.org.uk to uk.rec.sheds on Thu Aug 13 20:51:33 2026
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    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote in news:5k5fS.2199$zEP6.285@fx17.ams1:

    "Heating? In a bedroom!?! It's normal to have ice on the inside of
    the window."

    Ho yus,I remember Jack Frost painting my bedroom winders. It was fun to
    scrape it off with a fingernail.
    --
    Peter
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