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They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]
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On Fri, 29 May 2026 02:06:01 +0100
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I want Booze! </keen fbt poster>
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).
--
Ben

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Ben Newsam wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).
--
Ben

Has he who must not be named turned his toes up?

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Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).

Tsunami to the FB caffers, please pass on my greetings, Ben.

BTW, I'm still very much enjoying your News Quiz archive.
I have the whole thing as a shuffled playlist and listen to it
daily. Old as it is, it never gets old. ree:o)
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Citizen Smith wrote:

Ben Newsam wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).
--
Ben

Has he who must not be named turned his toes up?

~~~~
I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

v - feeling vay exotic
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vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned by it.

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In message <bd086b5a-743f-7ac5-3ea9-0e45da33047d@aol.com>, vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> writes

Citizen Smith wrote:

Ben Newsam wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).
-- Ben

Has he who must not be named turned his toes up?

~~~~
I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

v - feeling vay exotic

I get that occasionally. I just lie back and pretend I'm back in the
60s.

Brian
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brian wrote:

In message <bd086b5a-743f-7ac5-3ea9-0e45da33047d@aol.com>, vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> writes

Citizen Smith wrote:

Ben Newsam wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

-a-a-a-a <https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up.-a Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).
---a Ben

-aHas he who must not be named turned his toes up?

~~~~
I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

v - feeling vay exotic

I-a get that occasionally. I just lie back and pretend I'm back in the 60s.

Brian

~~~
;D... or lie back and think of England?

v - loves old movies
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Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned by it.

~~~
What if you're driving?
v
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 19:52:59 -0500, vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned by it. >>

~~~
What if you're driving?

There are many reasons I gave up driving, my crappy
eyesight is one. There is also slow reaction time, less strength,
and inability to turn my head.

I know that the roads are filled with people like me who
really shouldn't be driving for their sakes and others.

Often when I visit places and am asked if I parked and
point out my decrepitude, I ask as they see me staggering about
whether they think I should be behind the wheel, they comment
that daily they see people in worse shape than me.
--
Mr Churchill likes the working class, he likes to see them work.
- Clement Attlee
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vickiebee wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned by
it.

What if you're driving?

Has never happened, they do come on gradually and don't totally
obliterate vision, so I could pull-over. If I'm using a PC I generally
go and do something else for 20 minutes. I think they only affect one
eye, so maybe I could close that eye, I'll try next time I get one ...


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On 20/06/2026 11:56, Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned
by it.

What if you're driving?

Has never happened, they do come on gradually and don't totally
obliterate vision, so I could pull-over. If I'm using a PC I generally
go and do something else for 20 minutes. I think they only affect one
eye, so maybe I could close that eye, I'll try next time I get one ...

Scintillating scotoma is not an eye problem, it is a brain problem,
related to and often a warming of an approaching migraine.

I get it from time to time, but without the painful migraine.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.
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John Williamson wrote:

Scintillating scotoma is not an eye problem, it is a brain problem,
related to and often a warming of an approaching migraine.

Where does the optic nerve end and the brain begin?
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On 20/06/2026 14:27, Andy Burns wrote:

John Williamson wrote:

Scintillating scotoma is not an eye problem, it is a brain problem,
related to and often a warming of an approaching migraine.

Where does the optic nerve end and the brain begin?

The optic nerves are the bundles which connect the light sensors and the processors. Some of the processing happens in the retina, some more
happens in the bundle but most happens in various bits of the brain. To
draw a computer analogy the "optic nerves" have smart routers at each
end, and a combiner in the middle.

The bit of your brain that tells you that it is a ball which may be
heading your way is nowhere near the bit that tells you where you need
to put your hand to catch it or whether you need to dodge.

If you think our system is complex, the octopus has one which makes ours
look positively rudimentary.
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Tciao for Now!

John.
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John Williamson wrote:

The bit of your brain that tells you that it is a ball which may be
heading your way is nowhere near the bit that tells you where you need
to put your hand to catch it

I disgoove I've ever had any connection between those two bits of brain.

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On 18/06/2026 12:34, Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned by it.

If there isn't (or hasn't been) a band called "Scintillating Scotoma"
then the world is a poorer place.
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

John Williamson wrote:

The bit of your brain that tells you that it is a ball which may be
heading your way is nowhere near the bit that tells you where you need
to put your hand to catch it

I disgoove I've ever had any connection between those two bits of brain.

I just disgoovered that sheddisms out of place make my brian 'urt.

Anybode for a BA? We also have p!ckled eggs, chilli nuts and scratchy porkings. If pressed, the kitchen might even rustle up some cheese and
On!on cobs. Needless to say (so I'll say it anyway) there is abundant
PP and Branston pickle. FTAOD that is not a product from teh gurning beardy-face git.
--
^-^. Sn!pe, bird-brain. My pet rock Gordon just is.

All that was old is new again.
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Sn!pe wrote:

Anybode for a BA? We also have p!ckled eggs, chilli nuts and scratchy porkings. If pressed, the kitchen might even rustle up some cheese and
On!on cobs. Needless to say (so I'll say it anyway) there is abundant
PP and Branston pickle. FTAOD that is not a product from teh gurning beardy-face git.

I'm still enjoying the various bavarian helles that sainsburys/tesco/morrisons/waitrose have latched onto recently ...

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Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 18/06/2026 12:34, Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned by
it.

If there isn't (or hasn't been) a band called "Scintillating Scotoma"
then the world is a poorer place.

~~~
LOL! Thanks for sharing that. Hilarious! I love to play that game.
Where have you been all my life?
v
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Julian Macassey wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 19:52:59 -0500, vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned by it. >>>

~~~
What if you're driving?

There are many reasons I gave up driving, my crappy
eyesight is one. There is also slow reaction time, less strength,
and inability to turn my head.

I know that the roads are filled with people like me who
really shouldn't be driving for their sakes and others.

Often when I visit places and am asked if I parked and
point out my decrepitude, I ask as they see me staggering about
whether they think I should be behind the wheel, they comment
that daily they see people in worse shape than me.

~~~
Several years ago I had laser surgery to remove cataracts from both
eyes*, I can still read the wattage of a tiny ceiling fan light bulb.
But this SS condition makes a big blurry empty space in the middle of my sight. I can barely see around the edges. And no headaches.
v
* They said it was all that pot I smoked in the 60's.
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On 22/06/2026 13:15, vickiebee wrote:

Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 18/06/2026 12:34, Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned
by it.

If there isn't (or hasn't been) a band called "Scintillating Scotoma"
then the world is a poorer place.

~~~
-aLOL! Thanks for sharing that. Hilarious! I love to play that game.
Where have you been all my life?

Sheffield Polytechnic, at point.

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Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 22/06/2026 13:15, vickiebee wrote:

Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 18/06/2026 12:34, Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned
by it.

If there isn't (or hasn't been) a band called "Scintillating Scotoma"
then the world is a poorer place.

~~~
-a-aLOL! Thanks for sharing that. Hilarious! I love to play that game.
Where have you been all my life?

Sheffield Polytechnic, at point.

~~~
Yep, leave it to the engineers, yet it lacks a certain wit and sparkle.
What instrument did you play?
v
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On 23/06/2026 11:20, vickiebee wrote:

Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 22/06/2026 13:15, vickiebee wrote:

Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 18/06/2026 12:34, Andy Burns wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

I get that once or maybe twice a year, my optiquack isn't concerned >>>>> by it.

If there isn't (or hasn't been) a band called "Scintillating
Scotoma" then the world is a poorer place.

~~~
-a-aLOL! Thanks for sharing that. Hilarious! I love to play that game.
Where have you been all my life?

Sheffield Polytechnic, at point.

~~~
Yep, leave it to the engineers, yet it lacks a certain wit and sparkle.
What instrument did you play?
v

The record player was the summit of my musical talents.
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Andy Burns said:

Sn!pe wrote:

Anybode for a BA? We also have p!ckled eggs, chilli nuts and scratchy
porkings. If pressed, the kitchen might even rustle up some cheese and
On!on cobs. Needless to say (so I'll say it anyway) there is abundant
PP and Branston pickle. FTAOD that is not a product from teh gurning
beardy-face git.

I'm still enjoying the various bavarian helles that sainsburys/tesco/morrisons/waitrose have latched onto recently ...

I bumped into a couple of those last week. Erdinger. Extremely tasty.
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 12:44:42 -0000 (UTC)
Richard Robinson <richard@qualmograph.org.uk> wrote:

Andy Burns said:

Sn!pe wrote:

Anybode for a BA? We also have p!ckled eggs, chilli nuts and scratchy
porkings. If pressed, the kitchen might even rustle up some cheese and
On!on cobs. Needless to say (so I'll say it anyway) there is abundant
PP and Branston pickle. FTAOD that is not a product from teh gurning
beardy-face git.

I'm still enjoying the various bavarian helles that sainsburys/tesco/morrisons/waitrose have latched onto recently ...

I bumped into a couple of those last week. Erdinger. Extremely tasty.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Erdinger's OK. I drink the cheap most popular German bottled lager as it's cheap (partly because the advertising budget is re40) - Oettinger. My
supplier got me the 5.4% Export version (again), despite me just wanting a cheap quaffing lager for days like these.

But what can you do?
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:16:53 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

Erdinger's OK. I drink the cheap most popular German bottled lager as it's >cheap (partly because the advertising budget is re40) - Oettinger. My >supplier got me the 5.4% Export version (again), despite me just wanting a >cheap quaffing lager for days like these.

But what can you do?

Eh? Most popular? Naaah...

Oettinger is known for one thing: being a cheap lager, thin on taste, and sold immediately after brewing and bottling. I Have Been Told that storing beer for some weeks makes it better -- but it costs more. So by the time you get it, it would be better than in Germany.

"Quaffed ice-cold on a hot day" is exactly what it's for!


Thomas Prufer
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On 25/06/2026 07:28, Thomas Prufer wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:16:53 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

Erdinger's OK. I drink the cheap most popular German bottled lager as it's >> cheap (partly because the advertising budget is re40) - Oettinger. My
supplier got me the 5.4% Export version (again), despite me just wanting a >> cheap quaffing lager for days like these.

But what can you do?

Eh? Most popular? Naaah...

Oettinger is known for one thing: being a cheap lager, thin on taste, and sold
immediately after brewing and bottling. I Have Been Told that storing beer for
some weeks makes it better -- but it costs more. So by the time you get it, it
would be better than in Germany.

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to
be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is
part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

"Quaffed ice-cold on a hot day" is exactly what it's for!

Thomas Prufer

--
Tciao for Now!

John.
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Citizen Smith <csmith@tootingpopularfront.corn> wrote, despite their Organization header reading ""

Ben Newsam wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).
--
Ben

Has he who must not be named turned his toes up?

One sincerely hopes so. Last time I mentioned his name though, he
turned up.
--
Ben

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vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> wrote, despite their Organization
header reading "A noiseless patient Spider"

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

That's easy for you to say!
--
Ben

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vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> wrote, despite their Organization
header reading "A noiseless patient Spider"

* They said it was all that pot I smoked in the 60's.

They would. That's so they can record it as a "Smoking Related
Disease" for the stats.
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Ben

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John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote, despite their Organization header reading ""

On 25/06/2026 07:28, Thomas Prufer wrote:

Oettinger is known for one thing: being a cheap lager, thin on taste, and sold
immediately after brewing and bottling. I Have Been Told that storing beer for
some weeks makes it better -- but it costs more. So by the time you get it, it
would be better than in Germany.

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to
be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is
part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

But, but... the Reinheitsgebot (of 1516) was repealed to comply with
EU rules, I believe.
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Ben

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Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com"

Sheffield Polytechnic, at point.

Oooh! I went there. Now a pretend Uni, of course. Where is Plusnet now
that they are renovating Steel City House?
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snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

They don't make nostalgia like they used to...

While furtling through the nether regions of an old disk,
I found this, the URL to Humbug's Caff site:-

<https://cheerslove.org/menu.htm/>

- and 28 years later, it's still up. Good old Humbug,
I miss him, and all the other brekkie peeps too.

Does anybody fancy a bacon roll and a cuppa?

[crossposted: Caff; Shed; Pub]

I was given to understand that cheerslove.org had only recently
converted to https, but hey, it still works although not being
updated. Humbug is still around along with everyone else on the
Facebook version of the caff (we all left here because of He Who Must
Not Be Named).

Tsunami to the FB caffers, please pass on my greetings, Ben.

BTW, I'm still very much enjoying your News Quiz archive.
I have the whole thing as a shuffled playlist and listen to it
daily. Old as it is, it never gets old. ?:o)

That's very gratifying to know, you are very welcome. I now carry 160
different shows, and get more than 500 "hits" per day!

https://www.bennewsam.co.uk/Archivess.shtml
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Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote, despite their Organization header reading ""

On 25/06/2026 07:28, Thomas Prufer wrote:

Oettinger is known for one thing: being a cheap lager, thin on taste,
and sold immediately after brewing and bottling. I Have Been Told that
storing beer for some weeks makes it better -- but it costs more. So by
the time you get it, it would be better than in Germany.

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to
be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is
part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

But, but... the Reinheitsgebot (of 1516) was repealed to comply with
EU rules, I believe.

Another case of Brussels over-reaching, or what?
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Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

BTW, I'm still very much enjoying your News Quiz archive.
I have the whole thing as a shuffled playlist and listen to it
daily. Old as it is, it never gets old. ?:o)

That's very gratifying to know, you are very welcome. I now carry
160 different shows, and get more than 500 "hits" per day!

<https://www.bennewsam.co.uk/Archivess.shtml>

I'll take a look at that, Ben, thanks.
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Ben Newsam wrote:

John Williamson wrote:

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to
be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is
part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

But, but... the Reinheitsgebot (of 1516) was repealed to comply with
EU rules, I believe.

Plenty of beer is still brewed in accordance with it (plus or minus
yeast as a specific ingredient)
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Ben Newsam wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

That's easy for you to say!

Sufferin' Succotash
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On 05/07/2026 10:08 pm, Ben Newsam wrote:

John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote, despite their Organization header reading ""

On 25/06/2026 07:28, Thomas Prufer wrote:

Oettinger is known for one thing: being a cheap lager, thin on taste, and sold
immediately after brewing and bottling. I Have Been Told that storing beer for
some weeks makes it better -- but it costs more. So by the time you get it, it
would be better than in Germany.

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to
be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is
part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

But, but... the Reinheitsgebot (of 1516) was repealed to comply with
EU rules, I believe.

So I believe too. But, although they no longer have to abide by it,
several brewers still choose to, and declare so on the bockle as a sort
of guarantee of quality.
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snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote, despite their Organization header
reading "Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds"

Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote, despite their
Organization header reading ""

On 25/06/2026 07:28, Thomas Prufer wrote:

Oettinger is known for one thing: being a cheap lager, thin on taste,
and sold immediately after brewing and bottling. I Have Been Told that
storing beer for some weeks makes it better -- but it costs more. So by >> >> the time you get it, it would be better than in Germany.

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to
be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is
part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

But, but... the Reinheitsgebot (of 1516) was repealed to comply with
EU rules, I believe.

Another case of Brussels over-reaching, or what?

It makes sense that standards are the same across the entire EU, or
they wouldn't be standards.
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote, despite their Organization
header reading "A noiseless patient Spider"

Ben Newsam wrote:

John Williamson wrote:

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to
be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is
part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

But, but... the Reinheitsgebot (of 1516) was repealed to comply with
EU rules, I believe.

Plenty of beer is still brewed in accordance with it (plus or minus
yeast as a specific ingredient)

Indeed. When it was actual law, though, I heard of a tanker-load of
Whitbread Tankard that was turned back at the border. Guinness, on the
other hand, was allowed.
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:49:56 +0100
Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote, despite their Organization
header reading "A noiseless patient Spider"

Ben Newsam wrote:

John Williamson wrote:

Point of order. If sold immediately after brewing, it is not allowed to >>> be called lager (Literally "stored beer", as a few weeks of storage is >>> part of the Rheinheitsgebot law.

But, but... the Reinheitsgebot (of 1516) was repealed to comply with
EU rules, I believe.

Plenty of beer is still brewed in accordance with it (plus or minus
yeast as a specific ingredient)

Indeed. When it was actual law, though, I heard of a tanker-load of
Whitbread Tankard that was turned back at the border. Guinness, on the
other hand, was allowed.

Lots of foods are required to list their ingredients; not so british beer.

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"Kerr-Mudd, John" wrote:

Lots of foods are required to list their ingredients; not so british beer.

fish guts,
dead rodents,
<ducks>
Ed: no, not actual ducks.


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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

"Kerr-Mudd, John" wrote:

Lots of foods are required to list their ingredients; not so british beer.

fish guts,
dead rodents,
<ducks>
Ed: no, not actual ducks.

Gives it body, innit.
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 12:18:13 +0100
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

"Kerr-Mudd, John" wrote:

Lots of foods are required to list their ingredients; not so british beer.

fish guts,
dead rodents,
<ducks>
Ed: no, not actual ducks.

Gives it body, innit.

Today I've stayed at home, despite Bob being on a mere 50>mins away, but
on a hot bus. So a chilled Gosser calmed me down. Now a room temperature Klosterbrau Rauch, a very tasty beer, good for supping. BTW it's 29C in my puter room, and today's satorial elegance consists of boxers and ... not
much else. Well, nothing at all else. OK 28.6C, I did exaggerate. PC
happily pushing the warm air around, and the sun isn't even on this side
yet.

back OnTopic, RHG allows smoked beech flavour, I think.
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"Kerr-Mudd, John" wrote:

back OnTopic, RHG allows smoked beech flavour, I think.

Wot about Biersteuergesetz?
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Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

"Kerr-Mudd, John" wrote:

Lots of foods are required to list their ingredients;
not so british beer.

fish guts,
dead rodents,
<ducks>
Ed: no, not actual ducks.

Gives it body, innit.

Today I've stayed at home, despite Bob being on a mere 50>mins away, but
on a hot bus. So a chilled Gosser calmed me down. Now a room temperature Klosterbrau Rauch, a very tasty beer, good for supping. BTW it's 29C in my puter room, and today's satorial elegance consists of boxers and ... not
much else. Well, nothing at all else. OK 28.6C, I did exaggerate. PC
happily pushing the warm air around, and the sun isn't even on this side
yet.

back OnTopic, RHG allows smoked beech flavour, I think.

85.1#F (29.5#C in arj zbarl) here and super-cooled Guinness Original. Likewise, it's boxers and two BFO fans here. Phew, wotta scorcher.
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:49:56 +0100, Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

Plenty of beer is still brewed in accordance with it (plus or minus
yeast as a specific ingredient)

Indeed. When it was actual law, though, I heard of a tanker-load of
Whitbread Tankard that was turned back at the border. Guinness, on the
other hand, was allowed.

I assume that was a customs officer being bloody minded.

Once (Before EU) while I was lolling about in customs at
Felixstowe, a tanker of Carlsberg from Denmark was coming
through, they sampled about five gallons of lager to make sure
itreally was beer and offered me a glass. I declined it was a bit
early in the day for me.
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On 10/07/2026 07:28, Julian Macassey wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:49:56 +0100, Ben Newsam <nothing@invalid.com> wrote:

Plenty of beer is still brewed in accordance with it (plus or minus
yeast as a specific ingredient)

Indeed. When it was actual law, though, I heard of a tanker-load of
Whitbread Tankard that was turned back at the border. Guinness, on the
other hand, was allowed.

I assume that was a customs officer being bloody minded.

Possibly, Guinness does, though, comply with the Rheinheitsgebot
ingredient rules. The Gas is added at the tap.
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 16:34:22 +0100
"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 12:18:13 +0100
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

"Kerr-Mudd, John" wrote:

Lots of foods are required to list their ingredients; not so british beer.

fish guts,
dead rodents,
<ducks>
Ed: no, not actual ducks.

Gives it body, innit.

Today I've stayed at home, despite Bob being on a mere 50>mins away, but

Out for Bob today, but not as early as I missed an earlier bus; Bob all
gone now. Bus driver man had an iced bottled of water stuck up his T-shirt.

on a hot bus. So a chilled Gosser calmed me down. Now a room temperature Klosterbrau Rauch, a very tasty beer, good for supping. BTW it's 29C in my puter room, and today's satorial elegance consists of boxers and ... not
much else. Well, nothing at all else. OK 28.6C, I did exaggerate. PC
happily pushing the warm air around, and the sun isn't even on this side
yet.

back OnTopic, RHG allows smoked beech flavour, I think.
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 16:41:40 +0100
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

"Kerr-Mudd, John" wrote:

back OnTopic, RHG allows smoked beech flavour, I think.

Wot about Biersteuergesetz?

tax? on beech chippings? doubt it; just on the alcohol, I'd imagine.
Yes, German beer tax less than Austrian, but both are well
below Blighty (just beaten by Norway for highest in Europe, IIRC)
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Andy Burns wrote:

Ben Newsam wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

That's easy for you to say!

Sufferin' Succotash

~~~
;D And another one, and another one....
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Ben Newsam wrote:

vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> wrote, despite their Organization
header reading "A noiseless patient Spider"

* They said it was all that pot I smoked in the 60's.

They would. That's so they can record it as a "Smoking Related
Disease" for the stats.

~~~
Hey, another good rock band! Or just "Smoking Related,"

v (didn't smoke all that much, but had lots of strange peyote tea)
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Andy Burns wrote:

Ben Newsam wrote:

vickiebee wrote:

I'm still here, just having having trouble with my eyes.
Something called Scintillating Scotoma!

That's easy for you to say!

Sufferin' Succotash

~~~
;D And another one, and another one....
v
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Ben Newsam wrote:

vickiebee <prairiedove73505@aol.com> wrote, despite their Organization
header reading "A noiseless patient Spider"

* They said it was all that pot I smoked in the 60's.

They would. That's so they can record it as a "Smoking Related
Disease" for the stats.

~~~
Hey, another good rock band! Or just "Smoking Related,"

v (didn't smoke all that much, but had lots of strange peyote tea)
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