• drilling your swing arm.

    From cat@cat@where.here to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jul 8 22:34:31 2026
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    Feels verboten but my scorpion end thingy for the snotoiler is in a
    hedge somewhere or stuck in an audi grill, I don't know.

    The way the swing arm is it's basically unpossible to get zip ties
    around to clamp the stupid oiler dooble end on.

    How 'crime' would it be to drill and tap a couple of m3 or m4 holes to
    screw the stupid oiler on so it doesn't come off till the swingarm
    fatigue cracks and kills me?

    gsxr obviously.
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  • From cat@cat@where.here to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jul 8 22:41:25 2026
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    On 08/07/2026 22:34, cat wrote:

    fatigue cracks and kills me?

    gsxr obviously.

    Bad form but I think I'm going to just go single sided oiler and find something existing to bolt it to. SOME oil is better than no oil. meh.
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jul 8 23:18:00 2026
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    On 08/07/2026 22:41, cat wrote:
    On 08/07/2026 22:34, cat wrote:

    fatigue cracks and kills me?

    gsxr obviously.

    Bad form but I think I'm going to just go single sided oiler and find something existing to bolt it to. SOME oil is better than no oil. meh.

    If you *really* degrease it thoroughly, sometimes sticky tiewrap bases work.
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    Pip
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jul 8 22:39:30 2026
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    cat <cat@where.here> wrote:
    On 08/07/2026 22:34, cat wrote:

    fatigue cracks and kills me?

    gsxr obviously.

    Bad form but I think I'm going to just go single sided oiler and find something existing to bolt it to. SOME oil is better than no oil. meh.

    Rather than drilling into anything, you might consider using JB Weld or
    an equivalent.

    I've had a Scottoiler or two on various bikes with a single sided
    nozzle and never felt the need to 'upgrade' to a double sided nozzle.
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jul 9 06:46:45 2026
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    Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in news:112mjj2$3vae7$1@dont-
    email.me:

    cat <cat@where.here> wrote:
    On 08/07/2026 22:34, cat wrote:

    fatigue cracks and kills me?

    gsxr obviously.

    Bad form but I think I'm going to just go single sided oiler and find
    something existing to bolt it to. SOME oil is better than no oil. meh.

    Rather than drilling into anything, you might consider using JB Weld or
    an equivalent.

    I've had a Scottoiler or two on various bikes with a single sided
    nozzle and never felt the need to 'upgrade' to a double sided nozzle.


    +1, although the Tutoro oiler is a better design. Had a vacuum Scot on the
    VFR and TDM then the Tutoro on the MT09 Tracer (FJ09). All worked with a single nozzle.All were sold with the original chain at 34k, 16k & 18k
    miles.

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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jul 9 22:16:49 2026
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    On 09/07/2026 07:46, wessie wrote:
    +1, although the Tutoro oiler is a better design. Had a vacuum Scot on the VFR and TDM then the Tutoro on the MT09 Tracer (FJ09). All worked with a single nozzle.All were sold with the original chain at 34k, 16k & 18k
    miles.

    I have a Tutoro on the Energica - I could never find the vacuum
    connection for a Scottoiler. It lubricates the chain well, but I still struggle to set the right adjustment.
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jul 9 21:22:07 2026
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    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:nbahe1F8ld1U1@mid.individual.net:

    On 09/07/2026 07:46, wessie wrote:
    +1, although the Tutoro oiler is a better design. Had a vacuum Scot
    on the VFR and TDM then the Tutoro on the MT09 Tracer (FJ09). All
    worked with a single nozzle.All were sold with the original chain at
    34k, 16k & 18k miles.

    I have a Tutoro on the Energica - I could never find the vacuum
    connection for a Scottoiler. It lubricates the chain well, but I still struggle to set the right adjustment.



    I guess the mechanism is affected by ambient temp so a bit of a fucker to
    keep up in current climes

    less is more IME. You aren't lubing the rollers on sealed chains, just
    keeping the seals moist.
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jul 9 21:30:10 2026
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    wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:nbahe1F8ld1U1@mid.individual.net:

    On 09/07/2026 07:46, wessie wrote:
    +1, although the Tutoro oiler is a better design. Had a vacuum Scot
    on the VFR and TDM then the Tutoro on the MT09 Tracer (FJ09). All
    worked with a single nozzle.All were sold with the original chain at
    34k, 16k & 18k miles.

    I have a Tutoro on the Energica - I could never find the vacuum
    connection for a Scottoiler. It lubricates the chain well, but I still
    struggle to set the right adjustment.

    I guess the mechanism is affected by ambient temp so a bit of a fucker to keep up in current climes

    less is more IME. You aren't lubing the rollers on sealed chains, just keeping the seals moist.

    That was my only complaint about the Scottoiler too, having to fiddle
    with the dial to adjust the flow as the temperature changed. Still,
    it wasn't a deal breaker and it did dramatically extend the life of
    the chain and I didn't have to be constantly adjusting the slack.
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Jul 11 12:18:05 2026
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    On 09/07/2026 22:22, wessie wrote:
    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:nbahe1F8ld1U1@mid.individual.net:

    I have a Tutoro on the Energica - I could never find the vacuum
    connection for a Scottoiler. It lubricates the chain well, but I still
    struggle to set the right adjustment.


    I guess the mechanism is affected by ambient temp so a bit of a fucker to keep up in current climes

    Yeah, that's my guess.

    less is more IME. You aren't lubing the rollers on sealed chains, just keeping the seals moist.

    I'd say that they are lubing the rollers: it's the internal link pivot bearings that are sealed.
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  • From Simon Wilson@simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jul 12 17:41:51 2026
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    On 11/07/2026 12:18, PipL wrote:


    less is more IME. You aren't lubing the rollers on sealed chains, just
    keeping the seals moist.

    I'd say that they are lubing the rollers: it's the internal link pivot bearings that are sealed.



    My understanding was the primary function of the oil was to wash away
    any grit and dirt before it grinds stuff away.
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  • From Mathias Koerber@mathias@koerber.org to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jul 13 16:45:54 2026
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    On 2026-07-09 05:34, cat wrote:
    Feels verboten but my scorpion end thingy for the snotoiler is in a
    hedge somewhere or stuck in an audi grill, I don't know.

    The way the swing arm is it's basically unpossible to get zip ties
    around to clamp the stupid oiler dooble end on.

    How 'crime' would it be to drill and tap a couple of m3 or m4 holes to
    screw the stupid oiler on so it doesn't come off till the swingarm
    fatigue cracks and kills me?

    gsxr obviously.

    You could try and attach it with Sugru?

    I use that for the nozzle end of my Cobrra Nemo 2 Oiler
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jul 13 20:00:29 2026
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    On 12/07/2026 17:41, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 12:18, PipL wrote:


    less is more IME. You aren't lubing the rollers on sealed chains, just
    keeping the seals moist.

    I'd say that they are lubing the rollers: it's the internal link pivot
    bearings that are sealed.



    My understanding was the primary function of the oil was to wash away
    any grit and dirt before it grinds stuff away.


    Hmm. That wouldn't work with sticky chain lube or wax, but maybe oils
    work differently. I'd have thought they'd need a pretty heavy flow to
    actually wash the chain. I had assumed that the oil, being less sticky,
    allows grit to get flung off. I'm sure I read a magazine article about
    sticky chain lubes being almost worse than useless because they form a
    kind of grinding paste.

    I did once have an O-ring chain that I, ahem, probably neglected a bit:
    it got rather dry and a pink powder started appearing on it. I came to
    the conclusion that this was the bronze inner bush material of the
    rollers getting worn away. In my defence, it was probably my first
    O-ring chain and I assumed that it didn't need much lube.
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