• OT: Gout[1] .... fuck me that is painful!

    From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 12:17:26 2026
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    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.
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    Bruce Porter
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 13:14:40 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain
    for something that's not life threatening.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From geoffC@me@home.nl to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 12:56:10 2026
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    On 30/5/26 13:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. >Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain >scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    Yes, I've had it once only in my big toe about 2 years ago.
    My doctor described it accurately as even the weight of a bed sheet touching
    at night is unbearably painful.
    He prescribed Prednison but it still took about a week before I could walk
    properly again.
    --
    Geoff
    NTV 650
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 14:34:47 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 13:14, PipL wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful
    ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and
    no sign of a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain
    for something that's not life threatening.


    Me being me, it seems to have missed my toes. Unless I was misdiagnosed
    with Reynauds last year.
    --
    Bruce Porter
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 14:36:06 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 13:56, geoffC wrote:
    On 30/5/26 13:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful
    ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and
    no sign of a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    Yes, I've had it once only in my big toe about 2 years ago.
    My doctor described it accurately as even the weight of a bed sheet
    touching
    at night is unbearably painful.

    Not being in the toes, bed sheet ok :-)

    Just can't decide which way to lay the leg :-(
    He prescribed Prednison but it still took about a week before I could walk properly again.



    I was told to go and take Ibuprofen for a few days.
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  • From Ben Blaney@benblaney@gmail.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 14:29:16 2026
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    On May 30, 2026 at 7:17:26 AM EDT, "YTC1" <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:


    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    It is absolytely awful, isn't it. Every time I get an attack, I wonder how people in medieval times dealt with it. I don't wish to trivialize self-harm
    or suicide, but I honestly think I would take my own life.

    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 16:25:30 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:
    On May 30, 2026 at 7:17:26 AM EDT, "YTC1" <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:


    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    It is absolytely awful, isn't it. Every time I get an attack, I wonder how

    and I use to just worry about having shingles again (I was 18 when I had
    that)

    people in medieval times dealt with it. I don't wish to trivialize self-harm or suicide, but I honestly think I would take my own life.

    it would be less painful to amputate at the ankle


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(
    --
    Bruce Porter
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 15:48:41 2026
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    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were
    about meds.

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  • From Paul Carmichael@wibbleypants@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 16:10:54 2026
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    El Sat, 30 May 2026 13:14:40 +0100, PipL escribi||:

    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:

    <gout>


    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain
    for something that's not life threatening.


    Really? Worse than nocturnal leg cramps? A few night's(?) ago I was
    begging my wife to kill me.

    I think it may have been caused by swimming breast stroke. Hope it's that simple.
    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es

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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 17:31:48 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 16:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily medication.


    I suppose you can count Fybergel, but missing that is ok :-)

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were
    about meds.

    And I was listening, taking advice and mulling.
    --
    Bruce Porter
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  • From geoffC@me@home.nl to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 16:32:19 2026
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    On 30/5/26 17:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily >medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >about meds.


    Sons of Arthritis etc.......
    --
    Geoff
    NTV 650
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 17:32:54 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 17:10, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Sat, 30 May 2026 13:14:40 +0100, PipL escribi||:

    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:

    <gout>


    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain
    for something that's not life threatening.


    Really? Worse than nocturnal leg cramps? A few night's(?) ago I was

    Nocturnal leg cramp is short lived (it's in the name :-) )

    begging my wife to kill me.

    We've all been doing that for a while

    I think it may have been caused by swimming breast stroke. Hope it's that simple.


    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 16:40:25 2026
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    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vf3dn$vdl6$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 16:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.


    I suppose you can count Fybergel, but missing that is ok :-)



    if you need that crap to crap then your diet is shit, probably a big contributory factor with the gout (along with your genes)

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were
    about meds.

    And I was listening, taking advice and mulling.


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  • From Greybeard@greybeard@pirate.ship to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 20:23:10 2026
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    In reply to "geoffC" who wrote the following:

    On 30/5/26 13:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    Yes, I've had it once only in my big toe about 2 years ago.
    My doctor described it accurately as even the weight of a bed sheet touching
    at night is unbearably painful.
    He prescribed Prednison but it still took about a week before I could walk
    properly again.


    --
    Geoff
    NTV 650

    I had that about 10 years ago.
    I couldn't walk to the bathroom from the bed even with a stick. I though my foot
    was having labour pains!;-)
    Doc wasn't sure if Osteoarthritis or gout. Prescribed me Alopurinol and fortunately, I've not had a serious attack since.
    Was supposed to change my diet, from stuff with "Purines" in it?? and cut out strong dark ales.
    I still eat lots of prawns and drinks even more Old Peculiar and Broadside :-)


    Greybeard

    T-Bird - 1600
    Bonnie T140V - 750
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 21:45:42 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 16:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily medication.

    Me. Urate levels too low for medication. Only thing I have been taking recently is off-the-shelf iron supplement.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From Ben Blaney@benblaney@gmail.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 22:01:58 2026
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    On May 30, 2026 at 8:56:10 AM EDT, "geoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:

    My doctor described it accurately as even the weight of a bed sheet touching at night is unbearably painful.

    That's when I know I have a bad one - when I wake up in the night with pain from the bedsheet. A not-too-bad one is when I wake up and have to hop across the room and down the stairs to find the indomethicin.

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  • From petrolcan@petrolcan@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 23:56:17 2026
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    In article <XnsB45CAB0462D06wtymmmsas@157.180.91.226>, wessie says...

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily medication.

    /me waves

    I'm aware I may have just jinxed myself
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat May 30 23:58:38 2026
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    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle.
    Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain
    for something that's not life threatening.

    I've got swollen big toe joints that would do any gout sufferer proud,
    and I used to have it in a big way, but *knock on wood*, I've not
    been bothered by any symptoms for many years. I have zero idea why,
    because I don't do anything diet-wise to avoid it.

    *knocks again for luck*

    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    of a single sheet on my feet was unbearable. Also known as 'crystal
    arthritis'.

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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 07:37:36 2026
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    Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
    news:10vftje$16m0l$1@dont-email.me:


    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    of a single sheet on my feet was unbearable. Also known as 'crystal arthritis'.



    a kidney stone was worse than the gout I had, despite being the size of a grain of rice.

    the former involved hospital admission, clear fluids, a filter jug and pethidine injections

    reducing beer consumption has meant no more kidney stones or gout.
    Apparently beer can aid formation of oxalate stones and has purines that increases the risk of gout.

    drinking several bottles of wine a week seems not to lead to stone or
    crystal formation. I like to think there is a protective factor from the antioxidants like anthocyanin and flavonoid.
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  • From Andrew Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 08:54:36 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    Yeah, not a nice thing. I was off work a couple of times with it, not
    being able to even put a shoe on.

    Like others, Allopurinol seems to have sorted it for me for the last
    three of four years. There's plenty of reading up on it, and diet 'may'
    help. From what I have gleaned it only makes a few percent difference
    over the bodies natural ability to create uric acid in the blood, but
    can push you over a tipping point for a flare up.

    It can also matter more to find what does trigger it for you, it can be different for some. The dietary recommendations can be a bit of a rabbit
    hole though, but it can be unexpected stuff, like peas and asparagus, as
    well as many fish, especially salmon.

    I find sugary stuff is worst for me, especially chocolates (around
    seasonal celebration times!). For others it might be beers, or even
    something like marmite.

    I'm still drinking Old Peculiar and occasional single malts though ;-).
    --
    Andy H

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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 10:27:33 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 17:32, geoffC wrote:
    On 30/5/26 17:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day. -a Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a
    daily medication.
    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan
    were about meds.

    Sons of Arthritis etc.......



    If there isn't a patch, there should be
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 10:29:55 2026
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    On 30/05/2026 17:40, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vf3dn$vdl6$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 16:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.


    I suppose you can count Fybergel, but missing that is ok :-)



    if you need that crap to crap then your diet is shit, probably a big contributory factor with the gout (along with your genes)

    Completely the opposite, I have particularly good diet (which makes eat
    better and lose weight not an option RE gout), but I have IBS, and after
    years of trying to work out the (main) issue I have taken the easy
    option to regulate.
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 10:32:39 2026
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    On 31/05/2026 00:58, Mark Olson wrote:
    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle.
    Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of >>> a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain
    for something that's not life threatening.

    I've got swollen big toe joints that would do any gout sufferer proud,
    and I used to have it in a big way, but *knock on wood*, I've not
    been bothered by any symptoms for many years. I have zero idea why,
    because I don't do anything diet-wise to avoid it.

    *knocks again for luck*

    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    Try shingles :-)
    Imagine someone stick red hot knitting needles in your hip, all day, for
    2 weeks.

    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 10:36:22 2026
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    On 31/05/2026 08:37, wessie wrote:
    Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
    news:10vftje$16m0l$1@dont-email.me:


    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    of a single sheet on my feet was unbearable. Also known as 'crystal
    arthritis'.



    a kidney stone was worse than the gout I had, despite being the size of a grain of rice.

    the former involved hospital admission, clear fluids, a filter jug and pethidine injections

    reducing beer consumption has meant no more kidney stones or gout.
    Apparently beer can aid formation of oxalate stones and has purines that increases the risk of gout.

    It is the fermentation process, which is why wine is not as bad.
    (Yeah, I've been reading).

    Alcohol in general is an issue as the kidneys give priority to removing
    other shite and kick the uric acid into the blood.

    Certain fish are bad, so I will drop the trout an anchovies.


    drinking several bottles of wine a week seems not to lead to stone or
    crystal formation. I like to think there is a protective factor from the antioxidants like anthocyanin and flavonoid.

    Cherries are meant to be good :-)
    --
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 10:44:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 31/05/2026 08:54, Andrew Hewitt wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful
    ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and
    no sign of a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    Yeah, not a nice thing. I was off work a couple of times with it, not
    being able to even put a shoe on.

    Like others, Allopurinol seems to have sorted it for me for the last
    three of four years. There's plenty of reading up on it, and diet 'may' help. From what I have gleaned it only makes a few percent difference
    over the bodies natural ability to create uric acid in the blood, but
    can push you over a tipping point for a flare up.

    Looking at reasons for a flare up I may have hit multiple over the last
    week.

    I had my usual drinking on the Friday, a 43 mile cycle in the raising
    temp on the Sunday (although I did drink around 1.5l water).

    Then a NNQ on Monday, approx 2 bottles of white wine, not enough other
    fluids.

    Then Tuesday I was on the van roof all day in the heat refitting the
    roof vent, possible did not drink enough water.

    Wednesday I had a beer. Thursday I had an issue, and another beer.
    Friday I was bad enough for the Dr visit. I don't recall being told not
    to drink, so I had cider in the evening. That didn't set up Friday night
    and Saturday too well with what I now know.



    It can also matter more to find what does trigger it for you, it can be different for some. The dietary recommendations can be a bit of a rabbit hole though, but it can be unexpected stuff, like peas and asparagus, as well as many fish, especially salmon.

    I have salmon down as ok to eat?

    I find sugary stuff is worst for me, especially chocolates (around
    seasonal celebration times!). For others it might be beers, or even something like marmite.

    I do very little sugar now.


    I'm still drinking Old Peculiar and occasional single malts though ;-).

    --
    Bruce Porter
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 11:51:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vgvu8$1entt$1@dont-email.me:

    On 31/05/2026 08:54, Andrew Hewitt wrote:


    It can also matter more to find what does trigger it for you, it can
    be different for some. The dietary recommendations can be a bit of a
    rabbit hole though, but it can be unexpected stuff, like peas and
    asparagus, as well as many fish, especially salmon.

    I have salmon down as ok to eat?


    oily fish in general

    salmon counts but it isn't as oily as your anchovies and other stuff like sardine, herring and mackerel
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 11:54:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vgver$1ek7f$1@dont-email.me:


    Cherries are meant to be good :-)


    I like cherries but so bloody expensive to get a therapeutic dose!

    I did buy some from Aldi this week as on an offer. Spanish and not the tastiest but full of the very red good stuff.
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  • From chrisnd @ukrm@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 16:11:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 31/05/2026 10:27, YTC1 wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 17:32, geoffC wrote:
    On 30/5/26 17:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day. -a Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a
    daily medication.
    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan
    were about meds.

    Sons of Arthritis etc.......



    If there isn't a patch, there should be

    I've seen a couple East Mids area.
    I've also seen the tee shirts.

    Chris
    --
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    Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
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  • From Andrew Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 17:18:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 31/05/2026 10:44, YTC1 wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 08:54, Andrew Hewitt wrote:

    [..]

    Yeah, not a nice thing. I was off work a couple of times with it, not
    being able to even put a shoe on.

    Like others, Allopurinol seems to have sorted it for me for the last
    three of four years. There's plenty of reading up on it, and diet
    'may' help. From what I have gleaned it only makes a few percent
    difference over the bodies natural ability to create uric acid in the
    blood, but can push you over a tipping point for a flare up.

    Looking at reasons for a flare up I may have hit multiple over the last week.

    I had my usual drinking on the Friday, a 43 mile cycle in the raising
    temp on the Sunday (although I did drink around 1.5l water).

    Then a NNQ on Monday, approx 2 bottles of white wine, not enough other fluids.

    Then Tuesday I was on the van roof all day in the heat refitting the
    roof vent, possible did not drink enough water.

    Wednesday I had a beer. Thursday I had an issue, and another beer.
    Friday I was bad enough for the Dr visit. I don't recall being told not
    to drink, so I had cider in the evening. That didn't set up Friday night
    and Saturday too well with what I now know.

    Sounds like a good recipe for it.

    It can also matter more to find what does trigger it for you, it can
    be different for some. The dietary recommendations can be a bit of a
    rabbit hole though, but it can be unexpected stuff, like peas and
    asparagus, as well as many fish, especially salmon.

    I have salmon down as ok to eat?

    It seems to be mentioned specifically on a few info sites (NHS, some of
    the US ones, and the Arthritis site). Dark meat oily fish and 'seafood'
    are high in purine generally, which is the main contributory thing I
    believe, but salmon gets picked out on most them - they're talking about
    no more than two portions a month.

    However, they can contradict slightly y also stating that healthier
    foods 'may' counteract the effects of the purine by being, erm,
    healthier. Good example, strawberries are also one on the avoid list,
    but then says they're OK as they're fruit.

    I tried looking at the diet, but it's bloody difficult to fond the right combo. Especially when all the stuff you need to avoid for gout, is
    stuff I need to eat to reduce cholesterol.

    I find sugary stuff is worst for me, especially chocolates (around
    seasonal celebration times!). For others it might be beers, or even
    something like marmite.

    I do very little sugar now.

    I think for me it's the most likely one, so yeah, less of that here too.

    I'm just trying to do the bit of everything in moderation, and avoid the
    ultra processed crap.
    --
    Andy H

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  • From Andy H@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 16:55:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 08:37, wessie wrote:
    Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
    news:10vftje$16m0l$1@dont-email.me:

    drinking several bottles of wine a week seems not to lead to stone or
    crystal formation. I like to think there is a protective factor from the
    antioxidants like anthocyanin and flavonoid.

    Cherries are meant to be good :-)

    You need to eat shit loads of them, or try some of the cherry concentrate thatrCOs available - but itrCOs not cheap, and I didnrCOt really think it did much.

    Causes and cures all come with a a big rCymayrCO attached to them.
    --
    Andy H
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  • From Andy H@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 16:55:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. >>> Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of >>> a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain
    scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain
    for something that's not life threatening.

    I've got swollen big toe joints that would do any gout sufferer proud,
    and I used to have it in a big way, but *knock on wood*, I've not
    been bothered by any symptoms for many years. I have zero idea why,
    because I don't do anything diet-wise to avoid it.

    *knocks again for luck*

    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    of a single sheet on my feet was unbearable. Also known as 'crystal arthritis'.

    Gout, smashed wrist, all trumped by a peri-anal abscess - bad enough to be
    on antibiotic drips for a week, and three full anaesthetic procedures. It
    was the treatment after that was worst, shoving a ribbon dressing in until
    it closed up.

    I wouldnrCOt wish that one on my worst enemy (not that I have any).
    --
    Andy H
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 19:25:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 31/05/2026 12:54, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vgver$1ek7f$1@dont-email.me:


    Cherries are meant to be good :-)


    I like cherries but so bloody expensive to get a therapeutic dose!

    I did buy some from Aldi this week as on an offer. Spanish and not the tastiest but full of the very red good stuff.

    I'd better go to Aldi then :-)
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 20:38:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 31/05/2026 17:18, Andrew Hewitt wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 10:44, YTC1 wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 08:54, Andrew Hewitt wrote:

    [..]

    Yeah, not a nice thing. I was off work a couple of times with it, not
    being able to even put a shoe on.

    Like others, Allopurinol seems to have sorted it for me for the last
    three of four years. There's plenty of reading up on it, and diet
    'may' help. From what I have gleaned it only makes a few percent
    difference over the bodies natural ability to create uric acid in the
    blood, but can push you over a tipping point for a flare up.

    Looking at reasons for a flare up I may have hit multiple over the
    last week.

    I had my usual drinking on the Friday, a 43 mile cycle in the raising
    temp on the Sunday (although I did drink around 1.5l water).

    Then a NNQ on Monday, approx 2 bottles of white wine, not enough other
    fluids.

    Then Tuesday I was on the van roof all day in the heat refitting the
    roof vent, possible did not drink enough water.

    Wednesday I had a beer. Thursday I had an issue, and another beer.
    Friday I was bad enough for the Dr visit. I don't recall being told
    not to drink, so I had cider in the evening. That didn't set up Friday
    night and Saturday too well with what I now know.

    Sounds like a good recipe for it.

    Well, I know that *now* :-)


    It can also matter more to find what does trigger it for you, it can
    be different for some. The dietary recommendations can be a bit of a
    rabbit hole though, but it can be unexpected stuff, like peas and
    asparagus, as well as many fish, especially salmon.

    I have salmon down as ok to eat?

    It seems to be mentioned specifically on a few info sites (NHS, some of
    the US ones, and the Arthritis site). Dark meat oily fish and 'seafood'
    are high in purine generally, which is the main contributory thing I believe, but salmon gets picked out on most them - they're talking about
    no more than two portions a month.

    Yep, 3rd diet change In 3 years ....

    However, they can contradict slightly y also stating that healthier
    foods 'may' counteract the effects of the purine by being, erm,
    healthier. Good example, strawberries are also one on the avoid list,
    but then says they're OK as they're fruit.

    I tried looking at the diet, but it's bloody difficult to fond the right combo. Especially when all the stuff you need to avoid for gout, is
    stuff I need to eat to reduce cholesterol.

    I find sugary stuff is worst for me, especially chocolates (around
    seasonal celebration times!). For others it might be beers, or even
    something like marmite.

    I do very little sugar now.

    I think for me it's the most likely one, so yeah, less of that here too.

    I'm just trying to do the bit of everything in moderation, and avoid the ultra processed crap.


    that has been my life in recent years. But it means I found new joy in cooking,
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 20:44:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 31/05/2026 17:55, Andy H wrote:
    Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:
    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. >>>> Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of >>>> a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.

    By end of the day I was seizing up, and not able to stand unaided.

    Friday morning, despite Ibuprofen, swelling and pain worse. So quick
    Doctor appointment (we can do that here) and early diagnoses.

    By last night I was well fucked. A new ailment that hist 9 on the pain >>>> scale.

    [1] Assesed but to be confirmed by tests[2]
    [2] X-ray and bloods.

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain >>> for something that's not life threatening.

    I've got swollen big toe joints that would do any gout sufferer proud,
    and I used to have it in a big way, but *knock on wood*, I've not
    been bothered by any symptoms for many years. I have zero idea why,
    because I don't do anything diet-wise to avoid it.

    *knocks again for luck*

    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    of a single sheet on my feet was unbearable. Also known as 'crystal
    arthritis'.

    Gout, smashed wrist, all trumped by a peri-anal abscess - bad enough to be
    on antibiotic drips for a week, and three full anaesthetic procedures. It

    At the same time ! Unlucky :-)



    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
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  • From Higgins@the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 31 20:42:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily medication.


    rCA-a<Waves> oddly enough.

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  • From Peter Fisher@nospam@nosspam.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 1 07:11:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 31/05/2026 12:51, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vgvu8$1entt$1@dont-email.me:

    On 31/05/2026 08:54, Andrew Hewitt wrote:


    It can also matter more to find what does trigger it for you, it can
    be different for some. The dietary recommendations can be a bit of a
    rabbit hole though, but it can be unexpected stuff, like peas and
    asparagus, as well as many fish, especially salmon.

    I have salmon down as ok to eat?


    oily fish in general

    salmon counts but it isn't as oily as your anchovies and other stuff like sardine, herring and mackerel

    A surfeit of sardines did it for me. Purines innit?
    --
    Moto Morini 2C/375
    Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
    Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
    "Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 1 08:20:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    PipL wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 16:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:

    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.
    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.

    Me. Urate levels too low for medication. Only thing I have been taking recently is off-the-shelf iron supplement.

    I was 'borderline'.
    The doc's first suggestion was to cut down meat and alcohol consumption;
    this was countered by my having consumed neither for the last decade.
    After 3 or 4 attacks in a year, the doc sensibly prescribed Allopurinol
    1t 100mg per day (lowest dose). Nothing since; I've just had the first
    annual review and 'keep doing that'.
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 1 09:05:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/06/2026 08:20, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    PipL wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 16:48, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:

    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    -a-a Allopurinol. It seems to be working.
    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.

    Me. Urate levels too low for medication. Only thing I have been taking
    recently is off-the-shelf iron supplement.

    I was 'borderline'.
    The doc's first suggestion was to cut down meat and alcohol consumption; this was countered by my having consumed neither for the last decade.
    <heh> MIL keeps getting advised by health professionals to cut down her alcohol consumption.
    She then chews their ear off as she is tee total :-)

    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 1 12:56:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 00:58, Mark Olson wrote:
    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    Try shingles :-)
    Imagine someone stick red hot knitting needles in your hip, all day, for
    2 weeks.

    Luckily (!) I was able to see what shingles did to two of my brothers
    so the decision to get the Shingrix vaccine wasn't a difficult one.

    Also- I had a kidney stone once present itself while at work, and the
    pain was pretty awful. I thought it might be appendicitis, My co-worker
    said I was white as a sheet and quickly rushed me to the clinic.
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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 01:41:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/05/2026 14:34, YTC1 wrote:

    Me being me, it seems to have missed my toes. Unless I was misdiagnosed
    with Reynauds last year.
    So far I've had it in both big toes (where it normally strikes), the top
    of one foot, the upper part of my heel, and my ankle. I'm on allopurinol
    for the rest of my life and for the occasional flare up I have colchicine.
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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 01:43:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/05/2026 17:32, YTC1 wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 17:10, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Sat, 30 May 2026 13:14:40 +0100, PipL escribi||:

    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:

    <gout>

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable pain >>> for something that's not life threatening.

    Really? Worse than nocturnal leg cramps? A few night's(?) ago I was

    Nocturnal leg cramp is short lived (it's in the name :-) )
    My wife occasionally gets it. When it strikes her in the thigh, I would
    judge by her reaction that it is considerably more painful than gout,
    and lasts a while too.
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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 01:50:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/06/2026 13:56, Mark Olson wrote:

    Luckily (!) I was able to see what shingles did to two of my brothers
    so the decision to get the Shingrix vaccine wasn't a difficult one.

    Here, there is public immunisation, but there's a cohort who were born
    over a period of about five years who are too young to qualify due to
    age (under 70 in 2023) but too old to qualify because they'd already
    turned 65 in 2023, and you can only get it when you turn 65, not after.
    So there's five years worth of us who apparently have some mystic
    immunity conferred upon us.
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  • From Paul Carmichael@wibbleypants@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 07:12:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    El Tue, 02 Jun 2026 01:43:21 +0100, Mike Fleming escribi||:

    On 30/05/2026 17:32, YTC1 wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 17:10, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Sat, 30 May 2026 13:14:40 +0100, PipL escribi||:

    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:

    <gout>

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable
    pain for something that's not life threatening.

    Really? Worse than nocturnal leg cramps? A few night's(?) ago I was

    Nocturnal leg cramp is short lived (it's in the name :-) )
    My wife occasionally gets it. When it strikes her in the thigh, I would
    judge by her reaction that it is considerably more painful than gout,
    and lasts a while too.


    I get it in the calves/shins. Incredibly painful. And no amount of dancing around the bathroom makes any difference.
    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es

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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 08:49:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/06/2026 13:56, Mark Olson wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 00:58, Mark Olson wrote:
    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    Try shingles :-)
    Imagine someone stick red hot knitting needles in your hip, all day, for
    2 weeks.

    Luckily (!) I was able to see what shingles did to two of my brothers
    so the decision to get the Shingrix vaccine wasn't a difficult one.

    It was a long time ago, I was 18. No vaccine back then.

    Also- I had a kidney stone once present itself while at work, and the
    pain was pretty awful. I thought it might be appendicitis, My co-worker
    said I was white as a sheet and quickly rushed me to the clinic.

    I had appendicitis at work, fortunately the had an Occupational Health
    nurse who recognised it instantly (I think I was about to collapse) and
    called the ambulance, then there seemed to be a queue of people to stick
    a finger up my arse.

    It was uncomfortable (the appendix, I was beyond caring about people
    testing my anal aperture), but I'd stick it down at the 6-7 pain level.
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 08:50:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 01:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 14:34, YTC1 wrote:

    Me being me, it seems to have missed my toes. Unless I was
    misdiagnosed with Reynauds last year.
    So far I've had it in both big toes (where it normally strikes), the top
    of one foot, the upper part of my heel, and my ankle. I'm on allopurinol
    for the rest of my life and for the occasional flare up I have colchicine.

    Well, the ankle pain has gone down (still sollwen), and now the big toe
    joint has decided to join in.

    How long does this last for?
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 08:51:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 08:12, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Tue, 02 Jun 2026 01:43:21 +0100, Mike Fleming escribi||:

    On 30/05/2026 17:32, YTC1 wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 17:10, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Sat, 30 May 2026 13:14:40 +0100, PipL escribi||:

    On 30/05/2026 12:17, YTC1 wrote:

    <gout>

    You have my sympathies. I get it in my right big toe - unbelievable
    pain for something that's not life threatening.

    Really? Worse than nocturnal leg cramps? A few night's(?) ago I was

    Nocturnal leg cramp is short lived (it's in the name :-) )
    My wife occasionally gets it. When it strikes her in the thigh, I would
    judge by her reaction that it is considerably more painful than gout,
    and lasts a while too.


    I get it in the calves/shins. Incredibly painful. And no amount of dancing around the bathroom makes any difference.



    That's an image
    --
    Bruce Porter
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  • From boots@news@millhouse-communications.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 09:04:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/06/2026 13:56 Mark Olson penned these words:
    I was able to see what shingles did to two of my brothers
    so the decision to get the Shingrix vaccine wasn't a difficult one.

    I saw my old Dad suffer in misery so I forked out and paid for the original vaccine when I was in Penang. Had the newer two shot one in the UK now too,
    --
    Ian

    "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 09:42:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 01:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 14:34, YTC1 wrote:
    Me being me, it seems to have missed my toes. Unless I was
    misdiagnosed with Reynauds last year.
    So far I've had it in both big toes (where it normally strikes), the top
    of one foot, the upper part of my heel, and my ankle. I'm on allopurinol
    for the rest of my life and for the occasional flare up I have colchicine.

    Well, the ankle pain has gone down (still sollwen), and now the big toe joint has decided to join in.

    How long does this last for?

    For me, until it was treated.

    It was in my big toe. I saw my GP, told him I probably had gout (my
    father has it and it is heritable); GP said, 'No, you've injured it, go
    to A&E'. I went to A&E, was told it was gout and my GP is an idiot.
    Treated in A&E with Colchicine, which sorted it in the moment.
    Colchicine has a nasty list of common side effects though.

    I then spent a couple of years treating it with Naproxen when it
    occurred (3-4 times a year); I could usually catch it early enough to
    prevent it getting really painful.

    A year ago, I eventually gave up resisting the 'pill a day' and was
    prescribed Alopurinol and have not had a re-occurence.
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  • From Paul Carmichael@wibbleypants@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 10:00:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    El Tue, 02 Jun 2026 08:51:31 +0100, YTC1 escribi||:

    On 02/06/2026 08:12, Paul Carmichael wrote:

    <night cramp>

    I get it in the calves/shins. Incredibly painful. And no amount of
    dancing around the bathroom makes any difference.



    That's an image


    It's worse than that. There's a big mirror in the en-suite. Now I've had
    my eyes "improved" I've become aware of something quite alarming (age related).
    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es

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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 11:22:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 11:00, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Tue, 02 Jun 2026 08:51:31 +0100, YTC1 escribi||:

    On 02/06/2026 08:12, Paul Carmichael wrote:

    <night cramp>

    I get it in the calves/shins. Incredibly painful. And no amount of
    dancing around the bathroom makes any difference.



    That's an image


    It's worse than that. There's a big mirror in the en-suite. Now I've had
    my eyes "improved" I've become aware of something quite alarming (age related).



    There was a time that there would have been a demand for a GIF :-)
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 11:25:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 09:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 01:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 14:34, YTC1 wrote:
    Me being me, it seems to have missed my toes. Unless I was
    misdiagnosed with Reynauds last year.
    So far I've had it in both big toes (where it normally strikes), the
    top of one foot, the upper part of my heel, and my ankle. I'm on
    allopurinol for the rest of my life and for the occasional flare up I
    have colchicine.

    Well, the ankle pain has gone down (still sollwen), and now the big
    toe joint has decided to join in.

    How long does this last for?

    For me, until it was treated.

    It was in my big toe. I saw my GP, told him I probably had gout (my
    father has it and it is heritable); GP said, 'No, you've injured it, go
    to A&E'. I went to A&E, was told it was gout and my GP is an idiot.
    Treated in A&E with Colchicine, which sorted it in the moment.
    Colchicine has a nasty list of common side effects though.

    My diagnoser (an ANP) appears to want to wait until after the blood
    tests to see what my standard level is.

    Right now I am just drinking fluids (not beer obvs) and double checking
    what I am eating.

    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From chrisnd @ukrm@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 11:47:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 11:22, YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 11:00, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Tue, 02 Jun 2026 08:51:31 +0100, YTC1 escribi||:

    On 02/06/2026 08:12, Paul Carmichael wrote:

    <night cramp>

    I get it in the calves/shins. Incredibly painful. And no amount of
    dancing around the bathroom makes any difference.



    That's an image


    It's worse than that. There's a big mirror in the en-suite. Now I've had
    my eyes "improved" I've become aware of something quite alarming (age
    related).



    There was a time that there would have been a demand for a GIF :-)


    But not an animated one.

    Chris
    --
    The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
    Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
    https://www.Deuchars.org.uk
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  • From Andy H@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 12:00:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 09:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 01:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 14:34, YTC1 wrote:
    Me being me, it seems to have missed my toes. Unless I was
    misdiagnosed with Reynauds last year.
    So far I've had it in both big toes (where it normally strikes), the
    top of one foot, the upper part of my heel, and my ankle. I'm on
    allopurinol for the rest of my life and for the occasional flare up I >>>> have colchicine.

    Well, the ankle pain has gone down (still sollwen), and now the big
    toe joint has decided to join in.

    How long does this last for?

    For me, until it was treated.

    It was in my big toe. I saw my GP, told him I probably had gout (my
    father has it and it is heritable); GP said, 'No, you've injured it, go
    to A&E'. I went to A&E, was told it was gout and my GP is an idiot.
    Treated in A&E with Colchicine, which sorted it in the moment.
    Colchicine has a nasty list of common side effects though.

    My diagnoser (an ANP) appears to want to wait until after the blood
    tests to see what my standard level is.

    Yeah, I had to wait for that too, started off on 150mg Allopurinol and
    ended up on 300mg.

    Right now I am just drinking fluids (not beer obvs) and double checking what I am eating.

    Something cold can help, I have a wrap around sports cool pack that worked quite well. I stuck in the freezer until I needed it.

    It kept me off work for two weeks one time. I have a job with lots of
    walking around a factory grounds, so it wasnrCOt possible to work around
    that.
    --
    Andy H
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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 13:02:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 09:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    How long does this last for?
    For me, until it was treated.

    It was in my big toe. I saw my GP, told him I probably had gout (my
    father has it and it is heritable); GP said, 'No, you've injured it, go
    to A&E'. I went to A&E, was told it was gout and my GP is an idiot.
    Treated in A&E with Colchicine, which sorted it in the moment.
    Colchicine has a nasty list of common side effects though.

    My diagnoser (an ANP) appears to want to wait until after the blood
    tests to see what my standard level is.

    I had blood tests done while I waited in A&E.
    They also told me I shouldn't be in A&E (but since my GP sent me there,
    I guess they took pity on me).
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 14:07:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 13:00, Andy H wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 09:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 01:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 14:34, YTC1 wrote:
    Me being me, it seems to have missed my toes. Unless I was
    misdiagnosed with Reynauds last year.
    So far I've had it in both big toes (where it normally strikes), the >>>>> top of one foot, the upper part of my heel, and my ankle. I'm on
    allopurinol for the rest of my life and for the occasional flare up I >>>>> have colchicine.

    Well, the ankle pain has gone down (still sollwen), and now the big
    toe joint has decided to join in.

    How long does this last for?

    For me, until it was treated.

    It was in my big toe. I saw my GP, told him I probably had gout (my
    father has it and it is heritable); GP said, 'No, you've injured it, go
    to A&E'. I went to A&E, was told it was gout and my GP is an idiot.
    Treated in A&E with Colchicine, which sorted it in the moment.
    Colchicine has a nasty list of common side effects though.

    My diagnoser (an ANP) appears to want to wait until after the blood
    tests to see what my standard level is.

    Yeah, I had to wait for that too, started off on 150mg Allopurinol and
    ended up on 300mg.

    Right now I am just drinking fluids (not beer obvs) and double checking
    what I am eating.




    Something cold can help, I have a wrap around sports cool pack that worked quite well. I stuck in the freezer until I needed it.
    Sometimes frozen peas, sometimes a cold bucket of water :-)


    It kept me off work for two weeks one time. I have a job with lots of
    Whats is this work thing you speak of?

    Mind you, still trying to finish off this house remodeling, Jean has had
    to finish the painting the walls and ceiling and now I need to put the architrave back, then fit the radiators, and get a man to do the floor
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 14:08:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 13:02, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 09:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    How long does this last for?
    For me, until it was treated.

    It was in my big toe. I saw my GP, told him I probably had gout (my
    father has it and it is heritable); GP said, 'No, you've injured it,
    go to A&E'. I went to A&E, was told it was gout and my GP is an idiot.
    Treated in A&E with Colchicine, which sorted it in the moment.
    Colchicine has a nasty list of common side effects though.

    My diagnoser (an ANP) appears to want to wait until after the blood
    tests to see what my standard level is.

    I had blood tests done while I waited in A&E.
    They also told me I shouldn't be in A&E (but since my GP sent me there,
    I guess they took pity on me).

    Yep, NHS site says don't go to A&E
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From Paul Carmichael@wibbleypants@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 2 13:21:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    El Tue, 02 Jun 2026 11:47:02 +0100, chrisnd @ukrm escribi||:

    On 02/06/2026 11:22, YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 11:00, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Tue, 02 Jun 2026 08:51:31 +0100, YTC1 escribi||:

    On 02/06/2026 08:12, Paul Carmichael wrote:

    <night cramp>

    I get it in the calves/shins. Incredibly painful. And no amount of
    dancing around the bathroom makes any difference.



    That's an image


    It's worse than that. There's a big mirror in the en-suite. Now I've
    had my eyes "improved" I've become aware of something quite alarming
    (age related).



    There was a time that there would have been a demand for a GIF :-)


    But not an animated one.

    Don't worry, it's safely stored in my head. Quite comical, really.

    Change the subject.
    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es

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  • From Greybeard@greybeard@pirate.ship to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jun 3 17:43:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    In reply to "YTC1" who wrote the following:

    On 01/06/2026 13:56, Mark Olson wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 00:58, Mark Olson wrote:
    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    Try shingles :-)
    Imagine someone stick red hot knitting needles in your hip, all day, for 2 weeks.
    Not sure who it was that mentioned it earlier, but I've finally found them :-)

    Sons of Arthritis

    https://steelhorse.shop/products/sons-arthritus-026-t



    Greybeard

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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 05:52:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/06/2026 14:07, YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 13:00, Andy H wrote:

    It kept me off work for two weeks one time. I have a job with lots of
    Whats is this work thing you speak of?

    Something I'm stuck with due to some poor decisions in life, and some circumstances out of my control, which means I'll be doing until I'm 67
    (5 years away).

    Mind you, still trying to finish off this house remodeling, Jean has had
    to finish the painting the walls and ceiling and now I need to put the architrave back, then fit the radiators, and get a man to do the floor

    We switched to renting a few years back, so we don't get to do any of that.
    --
    Andy H

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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 09:28:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 05:52, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 14:07, YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 13:00, Andy H wrote:

    It kept me off work for two weeks one time. I have a job with lots of
    Whats is this work thing you speak of?

    Something I'm stuck with due to some poor decisions in life, and some circumstances out of my control, which means I'll be doing until I'm 67
    (5 years away).

    Mind you, still trying to finish off this house remodeling, Jean has
    had to finish the painting the walls and ceiling and now I need to put
    the architrave back, then fit the radiators, and get a man to do the
    floor

    We switched to renting a few years back, so we don't get to do any of that.


    Not sure I'd be happy renting, too unstable these days.
    But on the plus side if you have a good landlord then presumable stuff
    gets "fixed" and tarted up in a timely manner?
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 09:28:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 03/06/2026 18:43, Greybeard wrote:
    In reply to "YTC1" who wrote the following:

    On 01/06/2026 13:56, Mark Olson wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 00:58, Mark Olson wrote:
    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    Try shingles :-)
    Imagine someone stick red hot knitting needles in your hip, all day, for >>>> 2 weeks.
    Not sure who it was that mentioned it earlier, but I've finally found them :-)

    Sons of Arthritis

    https://steelhorse.shop/products/sons-arthritus-026-t


    Unsublte hint dropped to family that it would make a good present :-)
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 11:05:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily >medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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  • From Ben Blaney@benblaney@gmail.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 11:12:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Jun 2, 2026 at 6:25:19 AM EDT, "YTC1" <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:

    On 02/06/2026 09:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:

    It was in my big toe. I saw my GP, told him I probably had gout (my
    father has it and it is heritable); GP said, 'No, you've injured it, go
    to A&E'. I went to A&E, was told it was gout and my GP is an idiot.
    Treated in A&E with Colchicine, which sorted it in the moment.
    Colchicine has a nasty list of common side effects though.

    My diagnoser (an ANP) appears to want to wait until after the blood
    tests to see what my standard level is.

    I've told (a longer version of) this story before.

    First time I got gout was when I lived in Colorado. Went to the Dr. "I've got
    a pain in my toe; every man in my family has gout; I think it might be gout"

    1. He did an xray, because he had a portable machine right there and he was very proud of it.
    2. He took blood. But it would take three days to get the results
    3. So he sent me for an MRI.

    The cost was astronomical.

    I had gout.
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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 13:12:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Champ wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were
    about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Why not both ?
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  • From chrisnd @ukrm@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 14:15:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 03/06/2026 18:43, Greybeard wrote:
    In reply to "YTC1" who wrote the following:

    On 01/06/2026 13:56, Mark Olson wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/05/2026 00:58, Mark Olson wrote:
    It's about the worst acute pain you can imagine, even the pressure
    Try shingles :-)
    Imagine someone stick red hot knitting needles in your hip, all day, for >>>> 2 weeks.
    Not sure who it was that mentioned it earlier, but I've finally found them :-)

    Sons of Arthritis

    https://steelhorse.shop/products/sons-arthritus-026-t

    Well found - although the customer comment that the lettering started to disappear, after one washing, raised questions
    Just the patch to go now..

    Chris
    --
    The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
    Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
    https://www.Deuchars.org.uk
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  • From Peter Fisher@nospam@nosspam.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 18:53:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 11:05, Champ wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were
    about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Not forgetting physiotherapy for not injured, but worn out joins.
    --
    Moto Morini 2C/375
    Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
    Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
    "Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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  • From geoffC@me@home.nl to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 18:31:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 4/6/26 13:12, Ben Blaney wrote:


    I've told
    First time I got gout was when I lived in Colorado. Went to the Dr. "I've got >a pain in my toe; every man in my family has gout; I think it might be gout"

    1. He did an xray, because he had a portable machine right there and he was >very proud of it.
    2. He took blood. But it would take three days to get the results
    3. So he sent me for an MRI.

    The cost was astronomical.

    I had gout.


    Isn't that the US health system in a nutshell?
    --
    Geoff
    NTV 650
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  • From Higgins@the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 21:05:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 11:05, Champ wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were
    about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Not forgetting physiotherapy for not injured, but worn out joins.


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see
    me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.

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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 4 22:44:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles



    On 04/06/2026 09:28, YTC1 wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 05:52, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 14:07, YTC1 wrote:
    On 02/06/2026 13:00, Andy H wrote:

    It kept me off work for two weeks one time. I have a job with lots of
    Whats is this work thing you speak of?

    Something I'm stuck with due to some poor decisions in life, and some
    circumstances out of my control, which means I'll be doing until I'm
    67 (5 years away).

    Mind you, still trying to finish off this house remodeling, Jean has
    had to finish the painting the walls and ceiling and now I need to
    put the architrave back, then fit the radiators, and get a man to do
    the floor

    We switched to renting a few years back, so we don't get to do any of
    that.


    Not sure I'd be happy renting, too unstable these days.
    But on the plus side if you have a good landlord then presumable stuff
    gets "fixed" and tarted up in a timely manner?

    Well, it was a decision made at a time that made it a reasonable one,
    and wasn't taken lightly of course.

    Since then, things have changed dramatically, and the world in general
    has become more fucked up than anyone could have predicted at the time
    (we did this before Covid).

    It would be a different decision today for sure, although we were kind
    of being pushed towards not being able to afford mortgaging a house too,
    so it wasn't done on a whim.

    But, as you allude to, we luckily have a good landlord, and agent, who
    we get on well with, and seem happy to keep us as renters. They do any
    work needed, and keep the rent reasonable too.
    --
    Andy H

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  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Jun 5 01:24:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:05:37 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily >>medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >>about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Depressing,innit?

    But ISTR you too are on some sort of daily medications for summat or
    another. High blood pressure, was it? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember
    laughing when you told me how low it actually was, could not believe
    they would actually tbink it needed treating. Or maybe there waas some
    other risk factor, I misremember.
    --
    Ace
    http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/
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  • From Simon Wilson@simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Jun 5 19:12:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 22:05, Higgins wrote:


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.


    Great news!
    --
    /Simon
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  • From Mark Roberts@mark@markr.myzen.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Jun 5 19:57:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 21:05:55 -0000 (UTC), Higgins <the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 11:05, Champ wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily >>>> medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >>>> about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Not forgetting physiotherapy for not injured, but worn out joins.


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnAt want to see
    me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.

    Great news!
    --
    Mark Roberts
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  • From Peter Fisher@nospam@nosspam.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Jun 6 07:38:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 22:05, Higgins wrote:
    Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 11:05, Champ wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily >>>> medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >>>> about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Not forgetting physiotherapy for not injured, but worn out joins.


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.


    Excellent.

    How is the new bike selection going?

    I now have a list of new exercises to do as a result of an assessment a
    couple of weeks ago. Pinpointed Piriformis issues as well as
    osteoarthritis. Hip hitches etc. Abductor/adductor machine reps at the
    gym again too. These are limited by being conscious of not wanting to
    push my blood pressure and pulse rate too high these days. At my age I'm
    not there for aerobics.
    --
    Moto Morini 2C/375
    Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
    Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
    "Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jun 7 07:27:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Higgins <the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com> wrote in news:1101hoo$1v6j3$1@dont-email.me:

    Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote:

    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want
    to see me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working
    order. Now I can get back to the physio.


    Excellent.


    +1


    How is the new bike selection going?


    Slowly. IrCOm wracked with indecision.


    you will just have to own more than one ...
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jun 7 10:31:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 01:24:33 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:05:37 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >>>about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Depressing,innit?

    But ISTR you too are on some sort of daily medications for summat or
    another. High blood pressure, was it?

    No. Omeprazole, PPI to prevent acid reflux

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember
    laughing when you told me how low it actually was, could not believe
    they would actually tbink it needed treating. Or maybe there waas some
    other risk factor, I misremember.

    I did mention that I have stage one hypertension (typical reading is 130-something over 90-something). And I do remember you laughing at
    me :-) But I'm definitely not on meds for it, and I'd probably seek
    other measures before I accepted going on statins.
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jun 7 17:02:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 10:31:10 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember
    laughing when you told me how low it actually was, could not believe
    they would actually tbink it needed treating. Or maybe there waas some >>other risk factor, I misremember.

    I did mention that I have stage one hypertension (typical reading is >130-something over 90-something). And I do remember you laughing at
    me :-)

    Right, yeah. I think I laughed because you seemed slightly concerned
    about it. I've been in that range for decades, never seen it as a
    problem, and importantly neither have the doctors when I've had
    serious surgeries.

    I note that at some point they've changed the definitions, used to be
    that 140 was the thresh hold for high, now they've set 130 as 'stage 1
    high'. Fuck 'em, shifting goalposts like that...

    Haven't been regularly checking it recently, so just done so, 138/87
    with a proper inflator cuff tester. My smartwatch, though, gives a
    consistently much lower reading, 104/74 just now, then straight after
    at 123/77, which just goes to show how inaccurate they can be.
    --
    Ace
    http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/
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  • From Higgins@the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jun 7 20:18:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:.

    I did mention that I have stage one hypertension (typical reading is 130-something over 90-something). And I do remember you laughing at
    me :-) But I'm definitely not on meds for it, and I'd probably seek
    other measures before I accepted going on statins.



    Mine dropped to 108/69 during my treatment, which was quite concerning, but after coming off the Cialis (essential for the health of the little chap)
    it came up to similar levels to yours and the doctor was completely
    unfussed by it.
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 8 08:44:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 05/06/2026 19:12, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 22:05, Higgins wrote:


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see >> me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.


    Great news!

    +1
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From boots@news@millhouse-communications.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 8 09:05:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 22:05 Higgins penned these words:
    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see me for a year.

    Great news.
    --
    Ian

    "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Colin Irvine@colin_irvine@fastmail.fm to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 8 11:16:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 22:05, Higgins wrote:
    Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 11:05, Champ wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily >>>> medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >>>> about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Not forgetting physiotherapy for not injured, but worn out joins.


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.

    Excellent!
    --
    Colin Irvine
    R1250RS
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  • From cat@cat@where.here to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 8 15:11:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 19:31, geoffC wrote:
    On 4/6/26 13:12, Ben Blaney wrote:


    I've told First time I got gout was when I lived in Colorado. Went to
    the Dr. "I've got
    a pain in my toe; every man in my family has gout; I think it might be
    gout"

    1. He did an xray, because he had a portable machine right there and
    he was
    very proud of its profit generation potential.


    The cost was astronomical.

    I had gout.


    Isn't that the US health system in a nutshell?


    I've done a rude edit higher up, but yes.
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 8 15:33:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote in news:XnsB45CAB0462D06wtymmmsas@ 157.180.91.226:

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were about meds.


    and my GP has decided, despite being below the age threshold, I am decrepit enough to qualify for the PCV20 vaccine to protect against Streptococcus pneumoniae infections such as pneumonia and meningitis.
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  • From geoffC@me@home.nl to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jun 8 18:25:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 8/6/26 09:44, YTC1 wrote:
    On 05/06/2026 19:12, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 22:05, Higgins wrote:


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see >>> me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.


    Great news!

    +1

    +2
    --
    Geoff
    NTV 650
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 9 10:37:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 08/06/2026 16:33, wessie wrote:
    wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote in news:XnsB45CAB0462D06wtymmmsas@ 157.180.91.226:

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily
    medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were
    about meds.


    and my GP has decided, despite being below the age threshold, I am decrepit enough to qualify for the PCV20 vaccine to protect against Streptococcus pneumoniae infections such as pneumonia and meningitis.

    That is a good thing? Maybe.
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 9 10:21:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:1108mss$3san1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 08/06/2026 16:33, wessie wrote:
    wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote in
    news:XnsB45CAB0462D06wtymmmsas@ 157.180.91.226:

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a
    pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a
    daily medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan
    were about meds.


    and my GP has decided, despite being below the age threshold, I am
    decrepit enough to qualify for the PCV20 vaccine to protect against
    Streptococcus pneumoniae infections such as pneumonia and meningitis.

    That is a good thing? Maybe.



    oh yes, I had it just before posting yesterday

    one of my musical heroes died not too long ago from bacterial meningitis.
    Jeff Beck. He had met the age threshold but maybe did not take the
    opportunity for the vaccine.
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 9 14:32:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 09/06/2026 11:21, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:1108mss$3san1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 08/06/2026 16:33, wessie wrote:
    wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote in
    news:XnsB45CAB0462D06wtymmmsas@ 157.180.91.226:

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10vevhc$u9k5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 30/05/2026 15:29, Ben Blaney wrote:


    A few months ago, after years of resisting, I've started to take a >>>>>> pill a day.
    Allopurinol. It seems to be working.

    I may have to revisit my objection to dail pills :-(


    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a
    daily medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan
    were about meds.


    and my GP has decided, despite being below the age threshold, I am
    decrepit enough to qualify for the PCV20 vaccine to protect against
    Streptococcus pneumoniae infections such as pneumonia and meningitis.

    That is a good thing? Maybe.



    oh yes, I had it just before posting yesterday

    one of my musical heroes died not too long ago from bacterial meningitis. Jeff Beck. He had met the age threshold but maybe did not take the opportunity for the vaccine.

    Isn't it great that some things only kill us at a set age? Logan's Run, anyone?
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 9 14:00:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:11094kn$1knu$1@dont-email.me:

    Isn't it great that some things only kill us at a set age? Logan's
    Run, anyone?


    uuu v risk innit

    they give it to infants at 12 weeks but they are only protected for about 5 years. Then they mihgt be offered a shot as an adolescent if they are in a school or college with a meningitis risk.

    otehrwise you need to have some sort of fucked up corporeal subsystem, or reach 65
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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 9 22:28:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/05/2026 23:01, Ben Blaney wrote:
    On May 30, 2026 at 8:56:10 AM EDT, "geoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:

    My doctor described it accurately as even the weight of a bed sheet touching >> at night is unbearably painful.

    That's when I know I have a bad one - when I wake up in the night with pain from the bedsheet. A not-too-bad one is when I wake up and have to hop across the room and down the stairs to find the indomethicin.

    But I'm hoping I never do that again, now that I've started the allopurinol.

    Allopurinol hasn't stopped me getting occasional flare-ups, though
    they're milder than the pre-allopurinol ones (still extremely painful to
    walk) and colchicine has it on the retreat after a day.

    I suspect that getting dehydrated is also a factor. When the most recent warning signs showed up, I got some water down me and kept wiggling my
    toe, and everything abated. It's not as easy to recognise when it's
    elsewhere in the foot until it becomes full-blown though.
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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jun 9 22:32:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/06/2026 11:05, Champ wrote:

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    I can't remember where it was that I saw it referred to as the organ
    recital - how's your kidneys, how's your liver, how's your heart, etc.
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jun 10 09:06:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 09/06/2026 22:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 30/05/2026 23:01, Ben Blaney wrote:
    On May 30, 2026 at 8:56:10 AM EDT, "geoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:

    My doctor described it accurately as even the weight of a bed sheet
    touching
    at night is unbearably painful.

    That's when I know I have a bad one - when I wake up in the night with
    pain
    from the bedsheet. A not-too-bad one is when I wake up and have to hop
    across
    the room and down the stairs to find the indomethicin.

    But I'm hoping I never do that again, now that I've started the
    allopurinol.

    Allopurinol hasn't stopped me getting occasional flare-ups, though
    they're milder than the pre-allopurinol ones (still extremely painful to walk) and colchicine has it on the retreat after a day.

    I suspect that getting dehydrated is also a factor. When the most recent warning signs showed up, I got some water down me and kept wiggling my
    toe, and everything abated. It's not as easy to recognise when it's elsewhere in the foot until it becomes full-blown though.

    I've been wondering if the slightly sore toes I have had for the last
    few years may have been a warning sign. But I had attributed that to the recent Reynauds the pediatrician had diagnosed
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jun 10 11:12:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 07/06/2026 10:31, Champ wrote:
    On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 01:24:33 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

    But ISTR you too are on some sort of daily medications for summat or
    another. High blood pressure, was it?

    No. Omeprazole, PPI to prevent acid reflux

    I had that until a locum GP whose partner had just had an operation for
    it referred me, and I had a laparoscopic fundoplication. Had it on my
    birthday in 2009, and it's the best birthday present I've ever had. No
    more acid reflux or need for PPIs.

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember
    laughing when you told me how low it actually was, could not believe
    they would actually tbink it needed treating. Or maybe there waas some
    other risk factor, I misremember.

    I did mention that I have stage one hypertension (typical reading is 130-something over 90-something). And I do remember you laughing at
    me :-) But I'm definitely not on meds for it, and I'd probably seek
    other measures before I accepted going on statins.
    The numbers for my LDL and HDL cholesterol would have been fine if they
    were the other way round, so I'm on statins. Haven't had any problems
    with them after a few twinges in the first few months. Kaz is on them as
    a preventative measure, she's got on OK with them.
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  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 11 17:52:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10veh08$q4nf$1@dont-email.me:

    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle. Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.


    About 2 weeks ago, I thought I might have started another bout of gout.

    As a precaution, I stopped wearing the new slippers I had started wearing a few days before. They were a little tight but not really uncomfortable but thought they might aggravate the condition.

    Within 48 hours, no more pain. I had bought a couple of punnets of cherries and scoffed them in that time. Magic.

    Monday, I put the new slippers on again. I went to bed Tuesday with my foot hurting again, right big toe joint. No redness or heat.

    Not worn the slippers since Tuesday. No cherries eaten. Foot no longer
    hurts.

    Cheap supermarket slippers going to a charity shop.
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 11 22:01:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 11/06/2026 18:52, wessie wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10veh08$q4nf$1@dont-email.me:

    Woke up on Thursday with a slightly swollen and slightly painful ankle.
    Assumed a bite or a strain, I've no memory of twisting it and no sign of
    a bite mark.
    Hit the Ibuprofen and antihistamine (just in case) and carried on.


    About 2 weeks ago, I thought I might have started another bout of gout.

    As a precaution, I stopped wearing the new slippers I had started wearing a few days before. They were a little tight but not really uncomfortable but thought they might aggravate the condition.

    Within 48 hours, no more pain. I had bought a couple of punnets of cherries and scoffed them in that time. Magic.

    Monday, I put the new slippers on again. I went to bed Tuesday with my foot hurting again, right big toe joint. No redness or heat.

    Not worn the slippers since Tuesday. No cherries eaten. Foot no longer
    hurts.

    Cheap supermarket slippers going to a charity shop.

    If only that was all mine was.

    2 weeks in, finally starting to feel normal. Still a bit of swelling
    though :-(
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 11 23:18:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
    About 2 weeks ago, I thought I might have started another bout of gout.

    As a precaution, I stopped wearing the new slippers I had started wearing a few days before. They were a little tight but not really uncomfortable but thought they might aggravate the condition.

    Within 48 hours, no more pain. I had bought a couple of punnets of cherries and scoffed them in that time. Magic.

    Monday, I put the new slippers on again. I went to bed Tuesday with my foot hurting again, right big toe joint. No redness or heat.

    Not worn the slippers since Tuesday. No cherries eaten. Foot no longer hurts.

    Cheap supermarket slippers going to a charity shop.

    "P" swears by the cheap and cheerful slippers she gets at Jysk[1] as
    being supremely comfortable, but AFAIK she's got no history of gout,
    so ...

    [1] Other suppliers are available.

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  • From Higgins@the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Jun 6 16:27:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 22:05, Higgins wrote:
    Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote:
    On 04/06/2026 11:05, Champ wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 15:48:41 -0000 (UTC), wessie
    <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

    I was starting to wonder if there is anyone left in UKRM not on a daily >>>>> medication.

    Ben and Champ made recent confessions. Many conversations in Sedan were >>>>> about meds.

    This thread is indicative. It used to be that bikers compared scars
    and internal metalwork. Nowadays it's daily meds and elective surgery

    Not forgetting physiotherapy for not injured, but worn out joins.


    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see >> me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.


    Excellent.

    How is the new bike selection going?


    Slowly. IrCOm wracked with indecision.

    I now have a list of new exercises to do as a result of an assessment a couple of weeks ago. Pinpointed Piriformis issues as well as
    osteoarthritis. Hip hitches etc. Abductor/adductor machine reps at the
    gym again too. These are limited by being conscious of not wanting to
    push my blood pressure and pulse rate too high these days. At my age I'm
    not there for aerobics.


    I was never so happy to be diagnosed with osteoarthritis. It all came about
    in the early days of the cancer diagnosis and, as you do, I was referring
    to Dr Google to see what it was all about. Practically the first hit was
    about a runner who went to his doctor with hip pain that turned out to be metastatic prostate cancer and, of course, I had been going to the physio
    for hip pain. Just about shat myself and I was in the MRI faster than you
    can blink. One of the good things about the French medical system is that
    you book your own appointments and I managed to find an MRI appointment
    within the hour and walked out with the results.

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  • From Ben Blaney@benblaney@gmail.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jun 7 01:51:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Jun 4, 2026 at 5:05:55 PM EDT, "Higgins"
    <the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com> wrote:

    On the upside, following radiotherapy, the oncologist doesnrCOt want to see me for a year. And the plumbing is back to full working order.
    Now I can get back to the physio.

    Brilliant news. All the best to you
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 25 20:28:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles


    update, 1 month on.


    Base of foot still sore (around"balls" of my feet).


    Serum urate level - 468 umol/l

    This is after 4 weeks on the wagon, watching pureen, protein and portion
    size.

    Obviously it would have been great to know what the urate level was at
    the time of the gout and what my "normal" level is.

    Just waiting to have next chat with GP.

    In the meantime, what urate levels are other sufferers at?
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Jun 25 22:16:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 25/06/2026 20:28, YTC1 wrote:

    update, 1 month on.


    Base of foot still sore (around"balls" of my feet).


    Serum urate level - 468 umol/l

    This is after 4 weeks on the wagon, watching pureen, protein and portion size.

    Obviously it would have been great to know what the urate level was at
    the time of the gout and what my "normal"-a level is.

    Just waiting to have next chat with GP.

    In the meantime, what urate levels are other sufferers at?

    438. High but not high enough for treatment.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From Andy H@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Jun 26 06:18:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:

    update, 1 month on.


    Base of foot still sore (around"balls" of my feet).


    Serum urate level - 468 umol/l

    This is after 4 weeks on the wagon, watching pureen, protein and portion size.

    Obviously it would have been great to know what the urate level was at
    the time of the gout and what my "normal" level is.

    Just waiting to have next chat with GP.

    In the meantime, what urate levels are other sufferers at?

    Mine was at 485 when I was getting bad attacks in 2022, they put me on
    100mg Allupurinol, and I still had bouts, albeit not as bad, so upped to
    300mg. My urate is now at 294, and not had any attacks - although I can
    feel it twinging if I eat/drink the wrong things, so ease off on things
    like sweet stuff (chocolate seems to be my biggest trigger), booze and
    marmite.

    If you look at your results on the NHS app (not the Patient Access one) it shows results with graphs showing the rCynormalrCO range as a green bar. However, I found the docs might only look at the rCynormalrCO flag, and not necessarily at the actual level (might depend on your doctor of course).
    The scale for urates is 210-420, but as you say, you need to find *your*
    level, which may be trial and error. Mine seems to be *just* ok at that.

    I went for tests on B12, and some others, and it showed as rCynormalrCO, but on the scale I was at 120 out of a 100-1000 range, so took it on myself to
    take supplements. These also showed signs of low vitamin D and iron, so
    also got some of those. The rCybrain fogrCO IrCOve been suffering since Covid (also in 2022) has pretty much disappeared. They might also have
    contributed to easing the ectopic heart beats IrCOd got after a virus back in January (on top of permanent AF, thatrCOs not fun).

    YourCOre still over the upper range threshold, so I suspect yourCOll get meds increased.

    Personally I didnrCOt find diet made a great deal of difference overall, although minimise the biggest triggers. I found research that suggests it
    is more to do with your own levels, and diet only contributes a small percentage to it. ItrCOs like a kind of rCyhigh tiderCO mark, which your body produces itself, diet may just add enough to tip over to have an attack,
    how much depends on where your rCyhigh tiderCO mark is.
    --
    Andy H
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Jun 26 09:26:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 26/06/2026 07:18, Andy H wrote:
    YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:

    update, 1 month on.


    Base of foot still sore (around"balls" of my feet).


    Serum urate level - 468 umol/l

    This is after 4 weeks on the wagon, watching pureen, protein and portion
    size.

    Obviously it would have been great to know what the urate level was at
    the time of the gout and what my "normal" level is.

    Just waiting to have next chat with GP.

    In the meantime, what urate levels are other sufferers at?

    Mine was at 485 when I was getting bad attacks in 2022, they put me on
    100mg Allupurinol, and I still had bouts, albeit not as bad, so upped to 300mg. My urate is now at 294, and not had any attacks - although I can
    feel it twinging if I eat/drink the wrong things, so ease off on things
    like sweet stuff (chocolate seems to be my biggest trigger), booze and marmite.

    Beenbooze free for 4 weeks, sugar left by diet over 18 months ago after pre-diabetic diag.


    If you look at your results on the NHS app (not the Patient Access one) it shows results with graphs showing the rCynormalrCO range as a green bar. However, I found the docs might only look at the rCynormalrCO flag, and not necessarily at the actual level (might depend on your doctor of course).
    The scale for urates is 210-420, but as you say, you need to find *your* level, which may be trial and error. Mine seems to be *just* ok at that.

    I think I need to get a retest in a couple of weeks to see if has moved. Better stay off the booze then :-(


    I went for tests on B12, and some others, and it showed as rCynormalrCO, but on
    the scale I was at 120 out of a 100-1000 range, so took it on myself to
    take supplements. These also showed signs of low vitamin D and iron, so
    also got some of those. The rCybrain fogrCO IrCOve been suffering since Covid (also in 2022) has pretty much disappeared. They might also have
    contributed to easing the ectopic heart beats IrCOd got after a virus back in January (on top of permanent AF, thatrCOs not fun).

    An on that note, I am about to be tested for a heart beat block 3rd
    level :-)

    pulse drops from a resting of 50-60 to as low as 28 on multiple
    occasions. I only started checking it after the donation centre
    commented that 52 was at the limit to take the plasma.

    Then I looked up the error I have been seeing on my pressure monitor, it
    was "can't find your pulse" :-)


    YourCOre still over the upper range threshold, so I suspect yourCOll get meds increased.

    Not had meds yet.


    Personally I didnrCOt find diet made a great deal of difference overall, although minimise the biggest triggers. I found research that suggests it
    is more to do with your own levels, and diet only contributes a small percentage to it. ItrCOs like a kind of rCyhigh tiderCO mark, which your body produces itself, diet may just add enough to tip over to have an attack,
    how much depends on where your rCyhigh tiderCO mark is.



    I'm wondering how close I have been over the years, but then had a
    "perfect storm" over the BH weekend to trigger it.

    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Jun 26 09:28:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 25/06/2026 22:16, PipL wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 20:28, YTC1 wrote:

    update, 1 month on.


    Base of foot still sore (around"balls" of my feet).


    Serum urate level - 468 umol/l

    This is after 4 weeks on the wagon, watching pureen, protein and
    portion size.

    Obviously it would have been great to know what the urate level was at
    the time of the gout and what my "normal"-a level is.

    Just waiting to have next chat with GP.

    In the meantime, what urate levels are other sufferers at?

    438. High but not high enough for treatment.


    Interesting.
    I'll see what the Dr says on Thursday.
    I'll be looking for another test soon as I still think I have some
    swelling in the foot, and slight pain on the balls of my feet.

    Having said that, I've cycled over 100 miles in the last 2 weeks :-)
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Jun 26 09:12:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Andy H <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

    [rCa]

    If you look at your results on the NHS app (not the Patient Access one) it shows results with graphs showing the rCynormalrCO range as a green bar.

    [rCa]

    I prefer to use the Patient Access method, because that shows the doctorrCOs notes and the actual test results. You also get to see their thinking,
    whereas the NHS app removes these and just gives pretty graphics.

    My last phone call from the doc was down in his notes, headed as a rCyVatican callrCO.

    Yes, I had to look that up too.
    --
    Spike
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