• Travels with my wife, long but on-topic(ish, mainly)

    From AndrewR@andrew.rockface.spam@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 24 09:22:36 2026
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    Back at the arse-end of the 90s, when beer were still tuppence a pint, I
    had a CBR400 rCo some of you may remember it rCo and that CBR400
    occasionally had Mrs R, as sherCOd just become, perched on the pillion
    seat. It wasnrCOt, to be fair, a very good seat for pillions, or a good
    bike for pillions, and I wasnrCOt a good rider for pillions, so we never
    went very far. When Mrs R got pregnant she decided her time on the rear
    seat was over, and that was that.

    Time marches on. That pregnancy is now our 26-year-old daughter, the CBR
    was followed by a short string of other bikes, almost all of them not
    replaced because of scaffolding lorries. The most recent change, last
    April, was from a BMW R1200GS rCo which I bought because IrCOm old and sensible now rCo to a Honda VFR800-VTEC, because it turned out I wasnrCOt *that* old and sensible.

    The moment the superbly pillion-friendly BMW was off the driveway was,
    of course, the moment that Mrs R decided she might like to try going out
    on the bike again. Last summer we did a few runs out, all of the ride-for-an-hour to one of the more respectable biker cafes, have a
    coffee and a scone, and ride home again, variety. However, a bigger
    bike, a slower husband, and the miracle of modern intercoms, so that she
    can point out interesting cows that we pass, have meant that Lisa has
    enjoyed the experience enough that she didnrCOt immediately hit me with a frying pan when I suggested a bike holiday.

    The original plan was to join the UKRM French run, but her work holidays
    were at the wrong time, and also I remembered that yourCOre all cunts, so
    we decided to give Scotland a try instead.

    The first thing that went wrong is that I planned a rough route on
    Google maps and sent it her, with instructions along the lines of, rCLI
    just put the stops in to plot the route, we donrCOt need to actually stop there,rCY and she promptly booked in stops at those places. On the plus
    side, thatrCOs pretty much where the list of things going wrong ended, and actually the stops worked out fairly nicely.

    In the run-up to the trip we treated ourselves to new waterproofs, and
    the bike to its annual service and a nice set of SHAD panniers, to go
    with its existing OEM top-box. Then, last Monday, we set off.

    Day 1: Our house to nearly Dumfries
    Left to my own devices, I would never have had an overnight stop here,
    because itrCOs barely 70 miles from home, but it actually doesnrCOt take
    much post hoc justification; my wife hadnrCOt done any long journeys at
    all, I havenrCOt done many trips that were more than a tank of petrol
    away, and IrCOd done none of them 2-up. I also hadnrCOt ridden the VFR fully (and I do mean fully) loaded before. A short first day therefore made
    quite a lot of sense. If the worst came to the worst then we could nip
    home and pick up a car.

    I decided to avoid the drudge of the A69, so we followed the old Roman
    road Westwards, and then cut up through Longtown and by the time we
    reached Gretna the voice in my ear was telling me that the back seat was
    ready for a coffee stop, so we pulled into the Old Toll Bar caf|-.

    TOURING LESSON 1 rCo All Scottish cafes are run by old ladies, who work to
    an ordering/cooking/waiting system that requires at least 2 more old
    ladies than they actually have.

    We enjoyed our eventual coffee and sandwich and my wife asked how much
    further we had to go.
    rCLSixteen miles,rCY I told her, and the look on her face suggested that she hadnrCOt quite expected our first day to be so short either.

    We kitted up and made the short hop to Hetland Hall hotel, which is
    perfectly nice, but didnrCOt manage to wow us in the way that other venues
    on the tour did. Still, at least the weather was nice, so we got blue
    skies for the daily proof-of-life photo I had to send to my worried old mum.

    Day 2: Nearly Dumfries to Ballachulish, Glencoe
    The second day did not have blue skies, which was typical, as it was our longest day of travel. Still, the weather wasnrCOt even close to bad
    enough to make me want to take the most direct route, up the M74, so we
    struck out for Kilmarnock.

    Just short of there we stopped for a coffee at the superbly weird little Castle Caf|-, where a woman who must have been in 90s chatted to us about
    the weather and the motorbike her husband used to have (the only detail
    of it she had was the she used to ride on the back, wearing an open-face helmet)

    TOURING LESSON 2 rCo Everywhere you stop, someone will want to chat with you.

    After coffee we headed further West, to Irvine, before steeling
    ourselves and getting past Glasgow and over the Erskine bridge, which is
    when the weather decided it was done with pissing around with drizzle,
    and got on with the job of properly raining.

    We waterproofed up and pressed on. At the North end of Loch Lomond,
    where the road gets all nadgery, on-coming cars started flashing, so I
    slowed right down, and then rounded a corner to find stationary traffic.

    The problem turned out to be twofold:
    (1) Transport Scotland seem to have spent their entire budget on shoring
    up roadsides heading up to Glencoe, and we were at the first of many
    sets of temporary lights, with accompanying 30 limits
    (2) We were behind a simply gigantic lorry, carrying huge pipes to the
    people of the North, which was so large that it had to come to a
    complete stop and then inch past anything larger than a bicycle coming
    in the opposite direction.

    The various sets of lights gave me the opportunities to pass the trail
    of cars, campervans, and smaller lorries that now formed its comet-like
    tail, but getting enough straight, empty road to get by the pipe lorry
    itself ate up another 20 cold, wet minutes.

    I think if IrCOd stopped for a break then IrCOd never have got Lisa back on the bike, so instead I played the mental game of pretending that places
    IrCOd heard of were rCLnearly thererCY.
    rCLAh, Crianlarich, thatrCOs nearly there.rCY
    rCLBridge of Orchy, only 10 miles, thatrCOs definitely nearly there.rCY rCLRannoch Moor, Jesus, is this place ever not grim as fuck? Anyway, that really is nearly there.rCY
    rCLWerCOll be at the first viewpoint in a couple of miles. ThatrCOll make it all worthwhile. Nearly there.rCY

    And still, even through the rain, and my rain-soaked visor, the first
    view of the valley did make it all worthwhile. IrCOve wanted to bike up through Glencoe for years and, though IrCOd pictured doing it beneath an
    azure sky, in 20-degree heat, it was still special to finally do it.
    The next two sets of temporary traffic lights, along the valley itself,
    kindly gave me extra appreciating-the-specialness time.

    We finally rolled up to the AOS S|! lodges, behind the old rectory, about
    a mile past Ballachulish village. The lodges are little circular wood
    cabins, that feel for all the world like Hobbit-houses. They are also waterproof, have excellent radiators, to-die-for underfloor heating, and
    a massive bath each. These things restored happiness to our lives, which remained with us right up until the point that we learned that BallachulishrCOs only restaurant is closed on Mondays and Tuesdays.

    As our Bilboabode had a kettle, a toaster, a microwave and a coffee
    machine, we quickly popped to local Co-op and got ourselves a couple of
    ready meals and some breakfast stuff and had a cozy night in, wondering
    if the rain was going to stop.

    Day 3: Ballachulish to Pitlochry
    The rain had slowed down to mere drizzle by the morning, and as the
    lodgerCOs owner (does all his riding on the track, all over Europe, but
    never in the UK, on a 600, because they have all the power you need) had kindly allowed us a late check-out, we decided to do one of the local walks.

    We had our, now dried, waterproofs, but of course they donrCOt have hoods,
    and Lisa needed something to keep her head dry (IrCOd packed my baseball
    cap). She ended up buying the least touristy cap in the Glencoe visitor centre, which meant it only sported 3 fake badges about Scotland/the highlands. This led to the tourrCOs most-likely-to-get-me-divorced running joke, as I took to asking her, rCLAre you going to wear your hat? How will people know you love Scotland if you donrCOt?rCY

    TOURING LESSON 3 rCo When packing, remember that you are going to want to
    do some stuff that doesnrCOt involve being on the bike, and pack accordingly.

    The walk was great. We saw not another living soul during it, and by the
    time werCOd reached the highest point the drizzle was light enough to
    afford us a reasonable view of Loch Leven and surrounding hills.
    We walked back to the lodge, then realised that not all of the stuff
    werCOd bought the night before was going to fit into the luggage. We
    decided to keep the pot of jam and what was to become known as the
    Travelling Lurpak of Scotland, and headed off.

    TOURING LESSON 4 rCo Do not pack to capacity from the outset, leave some
    space for baseball caps and butter that you will acquire along the way.

    We headed North, to Fort William, and were pleased to see that it has maintained its award for Ugliest Town in the Most Scenic setting, then followed the A82 up to Speen Bridge, where we struck out East on the A86 andrCa
    rCa and, sometimes, everything just comes together, and you think, rCLYes, this is what biking is all about.rCY I overtook a couple of cars almost as soon as we turned on to the A86 and then we didnrCOt see another vehicle
    on it. The sun came out. The road is magnificent. The VFR behaved like
    the extra weight it was carrying meant nothing to it, and just motored perfectly through every sweeping corner. Lisa watched the wonderful
    scenery and I watched the wonderful tarmac. This one stretch of road
    more than made up for the damp slog of the previous day and earned its
    place in my all-time best motorcycling moments of all time.

    Eventually, though, it had to end. We reached Laggan Bridge and turned Southwards, to find our way to the fucking A9. Just before we got there, however, we happened to stop at the Apiary caf|- in Dalwhinnie, for a
    truly excellent lunch.

    TOURING LESSON 5 rCo The caf|- in Scotland that is not understaffed by old women is efficient and works on the principle that people may want high-quality food delivered to their table on the same day that they
    ordered it.

    The fucking A9 was the usual fucking A9 and was only brightened up by
    ending at the back of a motorcycle group for people whorCOve never ridden
    one of these things before but reckon they can work it out as they go
    along. I was sure we were going to get a ring-side view of a spectacular crash, but they were all still upright when we turned off for Pitlochry.
    Their tail-end Charlie gave me a wave as I left, so I hope that his
    inevitable fiery death was at least swift and painless.

    Last time I was in Pitlochry, 8 years ago, it was for a party at J K RowlingrCOs house, so I was too busy shitting myself (before) and being monumentally hungover (after) to really appreciate the place. It is very
    much a tourist honey-trap, but itrCOs also rather lovely. We walked down
    to see the dam and the fish-ladder and then tricked our room TV into
    letting us watch iPlayer.

    Day 4: Pitlochry to Upper Largo
    The day started in the best possible way, with us finding out exactly
    why our digs, Craigmhor Lodge, had won the rCLBreakfast of the YearrCY
    award. IrCOd have given it to them, if I was on the judging panel. Also,
    IrCOd very much like to be on the judging panel, if anyone knows how to
    make that happen.

    The owner kindly let us check-out but leave the bike there and stash our
    stuff while we walked to the top of Craigower Hill. The slightly damp
    weather meant that again we seemed to have the walk to ourselves, and
    nobody had to hear the nasty names that Lisa had for the person who
    painted the sign which claimed it was only 150m of ascent to the top of
    the hill.

    This was the shortest leg of our trip and could have been just 55 miles,
    if we did want Google Maps wanted and headed South on the fucking A9.
    Instead we headed North-East, on the A924, because it wasnrCOt the fucking
    A9. It also meant that we stopped for a coffee at the Kirkmichael
    community village shop and caf|-, which I loved, because it managed to
    quickly deliver hot drinks and delicious home-made scones, despite it
    being clear that absolutely nobody working there had a clue what they
    were supposed to be doing. I couldnrCOt resist telling the guy serving to donate my change to the little charity box on the counter, raising money
    to support the community.

    rCLWhat /all/ of it?rCY he asked, and I felt like J D Rockefeller as I
    agreed that all -u2.45 could go in.

    TOURING LESSON 6 rCo Sometimes you just have to go wild and give -u2.45rCa to
    make the places you pass through a little better for you having been
    there.

    We headed down through Dundee, a city IrCOve never been to before (it
    seems nice), over the Tay Bridge (half of it was shut), and down to
    Upper Largo, on the Firth of Forth. Our overnight stay there, The
    Crusoe, certainly doesnrCOt short-change you if you want a room with sea
    view. At high-tide the sea was literally lapping against the wall 10ft
    below our window. It was calm when we were there, but if the searCOs rough
    you must have to sleep with the window closed.

    More importantly, the food they do is incredible. I had Shetland
    mussels, in a tomato, chorizo, and cream sauce, and I think they were
    the best IrCOve ever had.

    Day 5: Upper Largo to Slaley
    After our longest day of travel (Tuesday) being such a washout it was
    amazing to see our second longest day start bright and sunny, with a
    forecast to get even brighter and sunnier, although that didnrCOt really
    help alleviate that it was also going to involve bits of the M8 and M9
    and the Edinbru bypass.

    The motorway bits were, of course, dull, but at least short, and the
    bypass itself wasnrCOt too terrible. There was only one bit with
    tailbacks. We were following another bike at that point, and the traffic parted in front of us, like the Red Sea. I had worried that the panniers
    make the bike a bit wide for filtering, but people were so keen to get
    out of our way that the bastard pipe lorry of Loch Lomond could have
    filtered through behind us.

    We stopped for a coffee in Jedburgh (the most extreme example of the "Inefficient number of old ladies" model) and I watched a group of 3
    scooters chug their way North on A68. Followed, a minute later, by
    another group of scooters, then another. Turns out itrCOs the Kelso
    Scooter Festival this weekend, which means we must have seen a couple of hundred scooters scooting in the opposite direction to us over the next
    50 miles, and did most of the rest of the journey in a pleasant haze of two-smoke fumes.

    The wind was ferocious over the border (IrCOm certain that Scotland is stealing our wind) but once we got into the lower-lying areas the
    temperature started going up, meaning that we arrived at our final destination, the very posh Slaley Hall, rather hot and dishevelled.

    TOURING LESSON 7 rCo For fuckrCOs sake, you idiot, at least leave enough
    space in your luggage that you can take the thermal lining out of your
    kit if it warms up!

    Slaley Hall is actually only about 15 miles from our house, but Mrs R
    had managed to find some sort of room-booking deal there, and it was our wedding anniversary (27 years), so werCOd decided to have one more night away.

    Also, it turned out to be more of a suite-booking deal, than a
    room-booking one, but the nice receptionist kindly handed over the
    key-card to the massive room, in the centre of the old hall, with
    commanding views out over the golf course, to the two sweaty,
    fly-stained, luggage-overloaded bikers who turned up without a fuss.
    We showered, cleaned up, purchased cold drinks, and sat in deckchairs in
    the sun, watching the golfists, and that suited us just fine.

    Day 6: Slaley to our house
    ItrCOs 15 miles, thererCOs a limit to how much even I can say about it.

    Nobody tried to wipe us out, which is more than can be said for the
    journey into Slaley, where an idiot going too fast swerved to avoid a
    car sticking its nose out of a driveway, without worrying too much about
    what was using the side of the road he was swerving on to (us).

    Anyway, we made it home. The dogs were delighted to see us, the children acknowledged that we had returned, we both had a fantastic time and will
    do it again.

    TOURING LESSON 8 rCo ItrCOs good to be home.
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  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 24 11:55:07 2026
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    What a lovely write-up.

    With writing like that I think you stand a good chance of moonlighting
    as a roving reviewer, might be one route to getting the breakfast
    judge route?
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 24 19:53:25 2026
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    On 24/05/2026 09:22, AndrewR wrote:
    Back at the arse-end of the 90s, when beer were still tuppence a pint, I
    had a CBR400 rCo some of you may remember it rCo and that CBR400
    <snip


    TOURING LESSON 2 rCo Everywhere you stop, someone will want to chat with you.

    After coffee we headed further West, to Irvine, before steeling
    ourselves and getting past Glasgow and over the Erskine bridge, which is when the weather decided it was done with pissing around with drizzle,
    and got on with the job of properly raining.

    We waterproofed up and pressed on. At the North end of Loch Lomond,
    where the road gets all nadgery, on-coming cars started flashing, so I slowed right down, and then rounded a corner to find stationary traffic.


    Other roads are available. I've avoided that stretch for years, bloody tourists.

    <snip>


    Eventually, though, it had to end. We reached Laggan Bridge and turned Southwards, to find our way to the fucking A9. Just before we got there,

    Other roads are available .... well, if you take a long detour.
    <snip>

    Instead we headed North-East, on the A924, because it wasnrCOt the fucking A9. It also meant that we stopped for a coffee at the Kirkmichael

    See, you found one :-)
    <snip>




    We stopped for a coffee in Jedburgh (the most extreme example of the

    As I was drivin down the A720 last week I was distracted bu the sign
    saying "Delays after BONJEDWOOD on (some date)"

    I still can't get the thought of Bon Jovi and Jedwood gigging.

    --
    Bruce Porter
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  • From Alan Lee@alan@darkroom.plus.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun May 24 21:22:39 2026
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    On 24/05/2026 09:22, AndrewR wrote:


    Good write up, thanks.

    so we pulled into the Old Toll Bar caf|-.

    TOURING LESSON 1 rCo All Scottish cafes are run by old ladies, who work to an ordering/cooking/waiting system that requires at least 2 more old
    ladies than they actually have.

    Haha. It's true, but, also, it's the first house in Scotland, so gets
    loads of Tourists who dont know it isnt that good compared to others
    locally. (we're 7 miles away)


    We kitted up and made the short hop to Hetland Hall hotel, which is perfectly nice, but didnrCOt manage to wow us in the way that other venues on the tour did.

    Lovely building, Staff are fine, but like you say, when we went for an Hogmanay party, we were expecting more. Couldnt complain, but what they provided was the minimum you'd expect. I'd recommend it for a stayover,
    but there are better out there locally.
    .

    Day 2: Nearly Dumfries to Ballachulish, Glencoe

    We did that today in the reverse. Went up to Ft. William on Friday.

    TOURING LESSON 2 rCo Everywhere you stop, someone will want to chat with you.

    Thats right. In D&G it's law that you don't just say hello, you have to
    have a chat with people.

    We waterproofed up and pressed on. At the North end of Loch Lomond,
    where the road gets all nadgery, on-coming cars started flashing, so I slowed right down, and then rounded a corner to find stationary traffic.

    It isnt just large lorries, it's every day. I made a wrong turning on
    Friday (carried on the M74, when I should have took the M80), it didnt
    worry me, we'd just go up the A82 round Loch Lomond. It's mostly a 50
    limit. There were lines of cars stuck behind people doing 35. We always
    go Stirling/Callander/Crianlarich now. Less tourist traffic, slightly
    longer, but mostly quicker, and, no less scenery to look at, as you are skirting the Trossachs.

    And still, even through the rain, and my rain-soaked visor, the first
    view of the valley did make it all worthwhile. IrCOve wanted to bike up through Glencoe for years and, though IrCOd pictured doing it beneath an azure sky, in 20-degree heat, it was still special to finally do it.
    The next two sets of temporary traffic lights, along the valley itself, kindly gave me extra appreciating-the-specialness time.

    Yes, sounds like this weekend, low cloud limited views, but it's still
    great.

    We finally rolled up to the AOS S|! lodges, behind the old rectory, about
    a mile past Ballachulish village.

    A lovely spot to stay.


    We headed North, to Fort William, and were pleased to see that it has maintained its award for Ugliest Town in the Most Scenic setting,

    Oh yes, we were there on Saturday afternon. The High St. is great if you
    want something outdoor related, or a drink, but nothing else to
    recommend it.

    rCa and, sometimes, everything just comes together, and you think, rCLYes, this is what biking is all about.rCY I overtook a couple of cars almost as soon as we turned on to the A86 and then we didnrCOt see another vehicle
    on it.

    There are lots of roads like that, the main roads are bloody awful in
    the Summer months due to the vast amount of Tourists coming in. But
    there are alternatives, mostly, that are better.

    We headed down through Dundee, a city IrCOve never been to before (it
    seems nice), over the Tay Bridge (half of it was shut), and down to
    Upper Largo, on the Firth of Forth. Our overnight stay there, The
    Crusoe, certainly doesnrCOt short-change you if you want a room with sea view. At high-tide the sea was literally lapping against the wall 10ft
    below our window. It was calm when we were there, but if the searCOs rough you must have to sleep with the window closed.

    More importantly, the food they do is incredible.

    I'll make a note if we're passing there, the OH loves the seafood.


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  • From Peter Fisher@nospam@nosspam.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon May 25 06:18:15 2026
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    On 24/05/2026 09:22, AndrewR wrote:
    Back at the arse-end of the 90s, when beer were still tuppence a pint, I
    had a CBR400 rCo some of you may remember it rCo and that CBR400 occasionally had Mrs R, as sherCOd just become, perched on the pillion
    seat. It wasnrCOt, to be fair, a very good seat for pillions, or a good
    bike for pillions, and I wasnrCOt a good rider for pillions, so we never went very far. When Mrs R got pregnant she decided her time on the rear
    seat was over, and that was that.


    <SNIP>

    Thanks for an excellent travelogue worthy of Michael Palin.>
    TOURING LESSON 8 rCo ItrCOs good to be home.


    "It's oh so nice to go travelling..."
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  • From geoffC@me@home.nl to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon May 25 11:01:10 2026
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    On 24/5/26 10:22, AndrewR wrote:

    Anyway, we made it home. The dogs were delighted to see us, the children >acknowledged that we had returned, we both had a fantastic time and will
    do it again.

    TOURING LESSON 8 rCo ItrCOs good to be home.


    Excellent piece, very enjoyable reading.
    Thanks.
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    NTV 650
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  • From AndrewR@andrew.rockface.spam@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon May 25 14:36:00 2026
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    On 24/05/2026 19:53, YTC1 wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 09:22, AndrewR wrote:

    We waterproofed up and pressed on. At the North end of Loch Lomond,
    where the road gets all nadgery, on-coming cars started flashing, so I
    slowed right down, and then rounded a corner to find stationary traffic.


    Other roads are available. I've avoided that stretch for years, bloody tourists.

    If the weather had been better then I'd have tried a different route,
    but if I'd got us lost, in the rain, in the middle of fucking nowhere
    then my bike and my body would currently be gracing a Scottish ditch.
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  • From Colin Irvine@colin_irvine@fastmail.fm to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon May 25 17:38:03 2026
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    On 25/05/2026 12:01, geoffC wrote:
    On 24/5/26 10:22, AndrewR wrote:

    Anyway, we made it home. The dogs were delighted to see us, the
    children acknowledged that we had returned, we both had a fantastic
    time and will do it again.

    TOURING LESSON 8 rCo ItrCOs good to be home.


    Excellent piece, very enjoyable reading.
    Thanks.



    +1.
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    R1250RS
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon May 25 20:45:58 2026
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    Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
    What a lovely write-up.

    With writing like that I think you stand a good chance of moonlighting
    as a roving reviewer, might be one route to getting the breakfast
    judge route?

    Ditto, lovely read, glad you went to the trouble.

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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue May 26 19:32:55 2026
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    On 24/05/2026 09:22, AndrewR wrote:
    a lot.

    Very nice write-up.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed May 27 13:52:01 2026
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    On 25/05/2026 14:36, AndrewR wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 19:53, YTC1 wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 09:22, AndrewR wrote:

    We waterproofed up and pressed on. At the North end of Loch Lomond,
    where the road gets all nadgery, on-coming cars started flashing, so
    I slowed right down, and then rounded a corner to find stationary
    traffic.


    Other roads are available. I've avoided that stretch for years, bloody
    tourists.

    If the weather had been better then I'd have tried a different route,
    but if I'd got us lost, in the rain, in the middle of fucking nowhere
    then my bike and my body would currently be gracing a Scottish ditch.



    You are never lost, you can always point to the map on your phone to
    indicate where you are.

    It is just an issue of getting to where you are going.
    --
    Bruce Porter
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  • From Bruce@07.013@scorecrow.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu May 28 00:22:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 25/05/2026 17:38, Colin Irvine wrote:
    On 25/05/2026 12:01, geoffC wrote:
    On 24/5/26 10:22, AndrewR wrote:

    Anyway, we made it home. The dogs were delighted to see us, the
    children acknowledged that we had returned, we both had a fantastic
    time and will do it again.

    TOURING LESSON 8 rCo ItrCOs good to be home.


    Excellent piece, very enjoyable reading.
    Thanks.



    +1.


    +2
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    Hampshire, England
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jun 3 14:22:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Thu, 28 May 2026 00:22:41 +0100, Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com>
    wrote:

    On 25/05/2026 17:38, Colin Irvine wrote:
    On 25/05/2026 12:01, geoffC wrote:
    On 24/5/26 10:22, AndrewR wrote:

    Excellent piece, very enjoyable reading.
    Thanks.

    +1.

    +2

    +3
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  • From Neil Ronketti@neil@ronketti.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue May 26 10:20:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 24/05/2026 09:22, AndrewR wrote:
    Back at the arse-end of the 90s, when beer were still tuppence a pint, I
    had a CBR400 rCo some of you may remember it rCo and that CBR400 occasionally had Mrs R, as sherCOd just become, perched on the pillion
    seat. It wasnrCOt, to be fair, a very good seat for pillions, or a good
    bike for pillions, and I wasnrCOt a good rider for pillions, so we never went very far. When Mrs R got pregnant she decided her time on the rear
    seat was over, and that was that.
    <snipola>
    The moment the superbly pillion-friendly BMW was off the driveway was,
    of course, the moment that Mrs R decided she might like to try going out
    on the bike again.

    That's a lovely write-up. And I'm going through a very similar process
    with another Mrs R. We used to ride out on my ZXR750s when we were
    young. Indeed, she passed her test and used to ride a lovely little ZX-4
    until an accident on a diesel slick near Ambleside. But children
    happened, time passed, and while I always carried on riding, The Lovely
    Faye had seemingly decided that her riding days were over.

    Until a tipsy idea at a gin festival last year gained a bit of momentum
    [1]. We're currently tootling around at weekends on the big K1600 in preparation for a trip out to Corsica in September. Two things of note: firstly, it seems that in the same way you never forget how to ride a
    bike, you never forget how to pillion either. For sure the first few
    minutes were a bit shaky as Faye fidgeted around trying to feel secure.
    But that soon passed. But secondly, how much better riding gear is these
    days. We were out yesterday in 34 degree heat, but neither of us was uncomfortably hot. When we used to ride around Southern France on the
    ZXR in full leathers, we had to stop every hour or so in a large town to
    stand in the freezer section of a supermarket to cool down.

    [1] https://nronketti.wordpress.com/2025/10/21/gigantic/ - of course I
    wrote about it.
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