The potholes on the B4194 were beyond a joke.
On 19/03/2026 17:19, Peter Fisher wrote:
Wotcha.
The potholes on the B4194 were beyond a joke.
I know the very pothole you're referring to.
At least someone had the decency to paint a white outline around it,
then paint "Fix it" on the road surface next to it.
Cheers.
Anyway, fantasy of an Aprilia Tuono 457 abandoned. The 401 can stay
until the 350 Morinis arrive in the country. Found myself struggling to
get on even the 2C (tight Richa trews and knackered hips) after starting
it on the centre stand then wheeling it backwards free of the other SOBs
at the Kabin. I think I'd best wait for the 'Rumble' bobber version.
On 19/03/2026 17:19, Peter Fisher wrote:
<snip>
Anyway, fantasy of an Aprilia Tuono 457 abandoned. The 401 can stay
until the 350 Morinis arrive in the country. Found myself struggling
to get on even the 2C (tight Richa trews and knackered hips) after
starting it on the centre stand then wheeling it backwards free of
the other SOBs at the Kabin. I think I'd best wait for the 'Rumble'
bobber version.
I've had trouble "getting my leg over" for a few years now, sometimes
i end up kicking the seat.
The wonky hip means I've given up trying to cock my leg over a bike seat in the conventional manner with left foot parallel to the bike. I now stand
with the foot perpendicular to the bike and lift my right leg. I then hop, usually sliding my right calf over the seat. I started doing this with the R1150GS 20 years ago with luggage fitted but it is almost every time now, unless riding a loaner like a Z650RS or MT07 with a low seat height. Dismounting is a reverse of the process, I usually grab my trousers at the shin to stop dragging my boot over the seat.
Adapted goosestep, not an uncommon sight as the motorcycle riding
demographic ages.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pj5l4$1fjuq$1@dont-email.me:
On 19/03/2026 17:19, Peter Fisher wrote:
<snip>
Anyway, fantasy of an Aprilia Tuono 457 abandoned. The 401 can stay
until the 350 Morinis arrive in the country. Found myself struggling
to get on even the 2C (tight Richa trews and knackered hips) after
starting it on the centre stand then wheeling it backwards free of
the other SOBs at the Kabin. I think I'd best wait for the 'Rumble'
bobber version.
I've had trouble "getting my leg over" for a few years now, sometimes
i end up kicking the seat.
The wonky hip means I've given up trying to cock my leg over a bike seat in the conventional manner with left foot parallel to the bike. I now stand
with the foot perpendicular to the bike and lift my right leg. I then hop, usually sliding my right calf over the seat. I started doing this with the R1150GS 20 years ago with luggage fitted but it is almost every time now, unless riding a loaner like a Z650RS or MT07 with a low seat height. Dismounting is a reverse of the process, I usually grab my trousers at the shin to stop dragging my boot over the seat.
Adapted goosestep, not an uncommon sight as the motorcycle riding
demographic ages.
That works for me on a machine with a side stand and electric start.
Centre stand only and left hand kickstart that I used to struggle with
anyway - not so much.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pj5l4$1fjuq$1@dont-email.me:
On 19/03/2026 17:19, Peter Fisher wrote:
<snip>
Anyway, fantasy of an Aprilia Tuono 457 abandoned. The 401 can stay
until the 350 Morinis arrive in the country. Found myself struggling
to get on even the 2C (tight Richa trews and knackered hips) after
starting it on the centre stand then wheeling it backwards free of
the other SOBs at the Kabin. I think I'd best wait for the 'Rumble'
bobber version.
I've had trouble "getting my leg over" for a few years now, sometimes
i end up kicking the seat.
The wonky hip means I've given up trying to cock my leg over a bike seat in the conventional manner with left foot parallel to the bike. I now stand
with the foot perpendicular to the bike and lift my right leg. I then hop, usually sliding my right calf over the seat. I started doing this with the R1150GS 20 years ago with luggage fitted but it is almost every time now, unless riding a loaner like a Z650RS or MT07 with a low seat height. Dismounting is a reverse of the process, I usually grab my trousers at the shin to stop dragging my boot over the seat.
Adapted goosestep, not an uncommon sight as the motorcycle riding
demographic ages.
On 20/03/2026 13:32, wessie wrote:
The wonky hip means I've given up trying to cock my leg over a bike
seat in
the conventional manner with left foot parallel to the bike. I now stand
with the foot perpendicular to the bike and lift my right leg. I then
hop,
usually sliding my right calf over the seat. I started doing this with
the
R1150GS 20 years ago with luggage fitted but it is almost every time now,
unless riding a loaner like a Z650RS or MT07 with a low seat height.
Dismounting is a reverse of the process, I usually grab my trousers at
the
shin to stop dragging my boot over the seat.
Adapted goosestep, not an uncommon sight as the motorcycle riding
demographic ages.
I used to do that on taller bikes with a top box or anything strapped to
the back.
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in news:10pk2i9$1ql2v$1@dont-email.me:
That works for me on a machine with a side stand and electric start.
Centre stand only and left hand kickstart that I used to struggle with
anyway - not so much.
even in 1980, at 17, when I rode my brother's CB200[1] the bike came with electric start and a side stand.
oldest bike I have owned, in 1993, was a 1987 VFR750.
I did do a CBT on a kickstart CG125 [2]
[1] he bought another one last year as he is 75 now and has lost a lot of muscle mass due to poor health. The collection of heavy R series BMW and
Moto Guzzis had to go.
[2] and I currently own a 2025 bike with pushrods
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pj5l4$1fjuq$1@dont-email.me:
On 19/03/2026 17:19, Peter Fisher wrote:
<snip>
Anyway, fantasy of an Aprilia Tuono 457 abandoned. The 401 can stay
until the 350 Morinis arrive in the country. Found myself struggling
to get on even the 2C (tight Richa trews and knackered hips) after
starting it on the centre stand then wheeling it backwards free of
the other SOBs at the Kabin. I think I'd best wait for the 'Rumble'
bobber version.
I've had trouble "getting my leg over" for a few years now, sometimes
i end up kicking the seat.
The wonky hip means I've given up trying to cock my leg over a bike seat in >the conventional manner with left foot parallel to the bike. I now stand >with the foot perpendicular to the bike and lift my right leg. I then hop, >usually sliding my right calf over the seat. I started doing this with the >R1150GS 20 years ago with luggage fitted but it is almost every time now, >unless riding a loaner like a Z650RS or MT07 with a low seat height. >Dismounting is a reverse of the process, I usually grab my trousers at the >shin to stop dragging my boot over the seat.
Adapted goosestep, not an uncommon sight as the motorcycle riding >demographic ages.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old
git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin
taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have
been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a
mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've >resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more >frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here >we are. I hate it, but here we are.
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but here we are.
On 21/03/2026 19:26, Ben Blaney wrote:
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote: >>
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've >> resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more
frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here >> we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Humphf. I have a blood test booked to see whether I will need that stuff.
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 19:26, Ben Blaney wrote:
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old
git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to
begin taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout
attacks have been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day
is for sure a mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but
here we are.
Humphf. I have a blood test booked to see whether I will need that
stuff.
If that's the only medication you're on, I'd count myself lucky.
I was on allopurinol years ago, and for whatever reason, even though
I had some pretty severe symptoms and frequent flareups, I'd say it's
now been 15 to 20 years since I have had any symptoms, other than
being blessed with extra large big toe joints, but no pain. Knock
on wood. Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old
git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to
begin taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout
attacks have been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day is
for sure a mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but here we
are.
Read this, see what it might do for you:
<https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nutrition/hea lthy-eating/are-cherries-cure-for-gout>
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 19:26:42 -0000 (UTC), Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've >> resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more
frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here >> we are. I hate it, but here we are.
You too, huh :-(
I'm now on daily 20mg Omeprazole for GERD [1]. What people usually
call acid reflux of heartburn, but I was taking antacid most days, and
they put a camera down my gullet [2], and saw that I had some damage
to my lower oesophagus, and so it'a PPIs[3] for me for the rest of my
days
[1] gastroesophageal reflux disease
[2] one of the most unpleasant and disturbing experiences I've had.
Felt utterly alien and invasive
[3] Proton Pump Inhibitor
Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
news:10pn718$2r0kd$1@dont-email.me:
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 19:26, Ben Blaney wrote:
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old
git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to
begin taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout
attacks have been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day
is for sure a mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but
here we are.
Humphf. I have a blood test booked to see whether I will need that
stuff.
If that's the only medication you're on, I'd count myself lucky.
I was on allopurinol years ago, and for whatever reason, even though
I had some pretty severe symptoms and frequent flareups, I'd say it's
now been 15 to 20 years since I have had any symptoms, other than
being blessed with extra large big toe joints, but no pain. Knock
on wood. Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
you win
only 7 every day, prescribed
plus 2 occasional use to treat eczema probably caused by the other lot
plus self medicated caffeine and alcohol
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote in news:10pmrdi$2n3i4$1@dont-email.me:
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old
git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin
taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have
been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a
mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Pomerol can do that.
One of the drawers in my kitchen looks like a small branch of Boots. Fortunately, I tick at least 2 boxes to get all meds free.
On 21/03/2026 22:56, wessie wrote:
Crikey.
I'm still only on two a day regularly, for the hypertension.
Plus the steroid nose spray and occasional antihistamine for the tree
fever which was awful yesterday.
Not counting the Saw Palmetto, Vitamin D3 + K2, Omega 3, B12 and a 70+ multivitamin tablet.
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 19:26:42 -0000 (UTC), Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've >> resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more
frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here >> we are. I hate it, but here we are.
You too, huh :-(
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 19:26, Ben Blaney wrote:
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote: >>>
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've
resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >>> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more >>> frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here
we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Humphf. I have a blood test booked to see whether I will need that stuff.
If that's the only medication you're on, I'd count myself lucky.
I was on allopurinol years ago, and for whatever reason, even though
I had some pretty severe symptoms and frequent flareups, I'd say it's
now been 15 to 20 years since I have had any symptoms, other than
being blessed with extra large big toe joints, but no pain. Knock
on wood. Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
How many of them are to counter the effect of others? :-(
Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote in
news:n28m0cF6p8mU1@mid.individual.net:
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old
git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to
begin taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout
attacks have been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day is
for sure a mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but here we
are.
Read this, see what it might do for you:
<https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nutrition/hea
lthy-eating/are-cherries-cure-for-gout>
a naturalised American with Essex heritage, eating fruit?
you'd get better odds on me giving up bacon and booze
Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in news:10po652$33o49$1@dont-email.me:
On 21/03/2026 22:56, wessie wrote:
Crikey.
I'm still only on two a day regularly, for the hypertension.
Plus the steroid nose spray and occasional antihistamine for the tree
fever which was awful yesterday.
Not counting the Saw Palmetto, Vitamin D3 + K2, Omega 3, B12 and a 70+
multivitamin tablet.
part DNA, part self inflicted
all of my siblings have hypertension. I was diagnosed at 35 when seeking treatment for an ear infection.
my mother was not diagnosed until she was 64 as she rarely saw a GP until
she had a lump that tunred out to be non Hodkinsons lymphoma. She survived that and lived nearly 2 more decades. However, the damage was done and she soon started showing signs of vascular dementia from the hypertension.
Self inflicted is the common boomer thing from too many calories and too
much booze. I have reduced both but not enough to lose any weight and the booze is down to double digit units a week rather than triple. I stopped buying gin but not wine,
Re hips, did you catch What's up docs on BBC R4 this week?
They were discussing hips and one stat was quite revealing.
The expert stated that 60% of those who undertake the pre-surgery exercise regime end up not having surgery as the physio alleviates their troubles.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002sn4l
I had been doing some of the exercises in the past as given to me by a physio in Cheltenham but I am trying to motivate myself to resume.
https://www.ruh.nhs.uk/patients/patient_information/PHY065_Prehabilitation_for_hip_replacement_surgery.pdf
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pod29$35pe2$3@dont-email.me:
How many of them are to counter the effect of others? :-(
who knows!
you mention BP drugs and they all have side effects for me, some pretty horrible.
the one I take, losartan, makes me a bit wheezy but it is better than the alternative from not taking it which would be to develop vascular dementia like my mother, have a stroke or blow a kidney.
On 21/03/2026 22:44, Mark Olson wrote:
I was on allopurinol years ago, and for whatever reason, even though
I had some pretty severe symptoms and frequent flareups, I'd say it's
now been 15 to 20 years since I have had any symptoms, other than
being blessed with extra large big toe joints, but no pain. Knock
on wood. Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
How many of them are to counter the effect of others? :-(
... considering if I can remember to take daily tabs or not, without
the hassle of setting a reminder alarm.
I stopped
buying gin but not wine,
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've >> resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more
frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here >> we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Read this, see what it might do for you:
<https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nutrition/healthy-eating/are-cherries-cure-for-gout>
Quote:
High-purine foods like red meat and beer contribute to gout because they increase uric acid in your blood. But what about foods that lower uric acid and help protect joints? ThatrCOs where cherries come in.
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote in news:10pmrdi$2n3i4$1@dont-email.me:
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old
git. I've resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin
taking a daily medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have
been more and more frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a
mark of an old git, so here we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Pomerol can do that.
One of the drawers in my kitchen looks like a small branch of Boots. Fortunately, I tick at least 2 boxes to get all meds free.
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 19:26:42 -0000 (UTC), Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've >> resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more
frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here >> we are. I hate it, but here we are.
You too, huh :-(
I'm now on daily 20mg Omeprazole for GERD [1]. What people usually
call acid reflux of heartburn, but I was taking antacid most days, and
they put a camera down my gullet [2], and saw that I had some damage
to my lower oesophagus, and so it'a PPIs[3] for me for the rest of my
days
[1] gastroesophageal reflux disease
[2] one of the most unpleasant and disturbing experiences I've had.
Felt utterly alien and invasive
[3] Proton Pump Inhibitor
The CB250RS has proved to be a good choice. A modern equivalent, with a
bit more power and a decent front brake is probably all I need these days.
On Mar 22, 2026 at 5:29:19 AM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
I stopped
buying gin but not wine,
I could easily give up wine and beer (I have very little of either)
but I cannot imagine a life without gin in all its glorious
manifestations.
Just FYI, I still declare myself the youngest, most handsome and stylish UKRMer, even if I might be taking a pill a day soon.
and occasional antihistamine for the tree fever which was awful yesterday.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pod29$35pe2$3@dont-email.me:
Usually a decent pharmacist? :)How many of them are to counter the effect of others? :-(
who knows!
you mention BP drugs and they all have side effects for me, some pretty horrible.
the one I take, losartan, makes me a bit wheezy but it is better than the alternative from not taking it which would be to develop vascular dementia like my mother, have a stroke or blow a kidney.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 22:44, Mark Olson wrote:
I was on allopurinol years ago, and for whatever reason, even though
I had some pretty severe symptoms and frequent flareups, I'd say it's
now been 15 to 20 years since I have had any symptoms, other than
being blessed with extra large big toe joints, but no pain. Knock
on wood. Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
How many of them are to counter the effect of others? :-(
You may be on to something there.
On 21/03/2026 21:02, Champ wrote:
they put a camera down my gullet [2]
[2] one of the most unpleasant and disturbing experiences I've had.
Felt utterly alien and invasive
Item [2] is worse than a camera down (or up) any one of all the other
(6?) body orifices!
On Mar 21, 2026 at 6:56:12 PM EDT, "Spike" <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've
resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >>> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more >>> frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here
we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Read this, see what it might do for you:
<https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nutrition/healthy-eating/are-cherries-cure-for-gout>
Quote:
High-purine foods like red meat and beer contribute to gout because they
increase uric acid in your blood. But what about foods that lower uric acid >> and help protect joints? ThatrCOs where cherries come in.
Yeah, I know. The crazy thing is that I eat little meat and drink little beer.
I've tried tart cherry juice, and tart cherry extract pills...but they don't do much.
Interestingly, the only strong correlation I have noted myself is gout attacks
following a period of high sugar consumption. Example: after halloween, or Christmas. I mentioned this to a fellow gout-sufferer a few years ago, who roundly and loudly told me I was wrong. But I read an article recently that my
hypothesis is indeed an aspect of current gout research. I'm not pre-diabetic,
according to bloodwork a few weeks ago, but it does make me wonder. Annual physical is on Tuesday, so I do plan to mention it to the doc.
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote in news:10pp9am$3fq5d$1@dont-email.me:
On Mar 22, 2026 at 5:29:19 AM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
I stopped
buying gin but not wine,
I could easily give up wine and beer (I have very little of either)
but I cannot imagine a life without gin in all its glorious
manifestations.
never really got into the premium gin thing. Pretentious gen X/Y bollocks
I just like a simple London Dry G&T with lemon not lime. Conditioned in the 1980s 6 O'Clock club where we would each buy a round of draught Bass then a round of Beefeater G&T. Most would then get in their cars and drive home. Boomer cunts.
On 22/03/2026 09:46, wessie wrote:
It was something nifedipine, probably one of the ones with fewest side effects.
rCLEating foods and drinks with added sugar often can lead to
inflammation. Fructose, a type of sugar, is particularly concerning
for those with gout when consumed in large amounts.
When you consume fructose, it triggers the release of purines,
compounds that convert to uric acid, a waste product in urine. Uric
acid can form crystals in the joints and cause the joint pain linked
to gout.
On Mar 22, 2026 at 7:05:29 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote in
news:10pp9am$3fq5d$1@dont-email.me:
On Mar 22, 2026 at 5:29:19 AM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net>
wrote:
I stopped
buying gin but not wine,
I could easily give up wine and beer (I have very little of either)
but I cannot imagine a life without gin in all its glorious
manifestations.
never really got into the premium gin thing. Pretentious gen X/Y
bollocks
I just like a simple London Dry G&T with lemon not lime. Conditioned
in the 1980s 6 O'Clock club where we would each buy a round of
draught Bass then a round of Beefeater G&T. Most would then get in
their cars and drive home. Boomer cunts.
I don't need premium gin, particularly. Tanqueray 10 is lovely, and I
like that rhubarb and ginger one. But most of the time I have a big
bottle of Bombay Sapphire.
By "all its glorious forms", I mean a
negroni, a gimlet, a tom collins, a singapore sling, a last word, a
french 75, a fruit sour, a corpse reviver, an aviation.
The wonky hip means I've given up trying to cock my leg over a bike seat in the conventional manner with left foot parallel to the bike. I now stand
with the foot perpendicular to the bike and lift my right leg. I then hop, usually sliding my right calf over the seat.
On 21/03/2026 20:04, wessie wrote:
One of the drawers in my kitchen looks like a small branch of Boots.
Fortunately, I tick at least 2 boxes to get all meds free.
Age sometimes has its advantages :-)
I'm now on daily 20mg Omeprazole for GERD [1]. What people usually
call acid reflux of heartburn, but I was taking antacid most days, and
they put a camera down my gullet [2], and saw that I had some damage
to my lower oesophagus, and so it'a PPIs[3] for me for the rest of my
days
Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
On 21/03/2026 22:44, Mark Olson wrote:
Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
Eight meds (I may have said seven earlier, if so I hadn't counted my statin), 13 tablets a day.
a naturalised American with Essex heritage, eating fruit?
you'd get better odds on me giving up bacon and booze
Interestingly, the only strong correlation I have noted myself is gout attacks
following a period of high sugar consumption. Example: after halloween, or Christmas. I mentioned this to a fellow gout-sufferer a few years ago, who roundly and loudly told me I was wrong. But I read an article recently that my
hypothesis is indeed an aspect of current gout research. I'm not pre-diabetic,
according to bloodwork a few weeks ago, but it does make me wonder. Annual physical is on Tuesday, so I do plan to mention it to the doc.
On 21/03/2026 22:44, Mark Olson wrote:
Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
Eight meds (I may have said seven earlier, if so I hadn't counted my statin), 13 tablets a day.
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 18:10:14 +0000, "chrisnd @ukrm"< ding! >
<chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 21:02, Champ wrote:
they put a camera down my gullet [2]
[2] one of the most unpleasant and disturbing experiences I've had.
Felt utterly alien and invasive
Item [2] is worse than a camera down (or up) any one of all the other
(6?) body orifices!
I had one up the other end decades ago, and have no memory of it at
all really, so clearly not very traumatic
For the one down the throat - I was told I could have a sedative, but
would need someone to take me home, or, if I didn't, I would
experience some 'discomfort'. I thought "I can handle a bit of
discomfort, no problem". And, in truth, the physical effect was only "discomfort". But mentally the experience was so utterly *wrong* - my
brain was just screaming "get it out, get it out, get it out!". If
there's a next time, I'll definitely have the sedative
On 21/03/2026 21:02, Champ wrote:
I'm now on daily 20mg Omeprazole for GERD [1].-a What people usually
call acid reflux of heartburn, but I was taking antacid most days, and
they put a camera down my gullet [2], and saw that I had some damage
to my lower oesophagus, and so it'a PPIs[3] for me for the rest of my
days
I was on a PPI for a while. Went to the doctor for some reason a few
years back - he was a locum whose partner had just had an endoscopic fundoplication to treat their acid reflux, and he referred me for the
same procedure. I had it on my birthday in 2009, and it was an utter
life changer - best birthday present I've ever had.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pr0gl$sgi$1@dont-email.me:
On 22/03/2026 09:46, wessie wrote:
It was something nifedipine, probably one of the ones with fewest side
effects.
a calcium channel blocker - no good for me (or my mother) as caused oedema
in my lower legs
although, at least it did not try to kill my mother like the ACE inhibitor, as she went into angioedema. As she had dementia and had no idea what was happening, it was a good job I had read the leaflet!
They asked me to take ACE when they desided beta blockers are no good long term. One tablet was enough to say fuck off as I started the same reaction.
ACE are contraindicated in those with African descent due to a particular gene. I wonder what happened back in my maternal line in the 18th century
as I knew my grandparents born in the first decade of the 20th dentury?
On 20/03/2026 13:32, wessie wrote:
The wonky hip means I've given up trying to cock my leg over a bike
seat in
the conventional manner with left foot parallel to the bike. I now stand
with the foot perpendicular to the bike and lift my right leg. I then
hop,
usually sliding my right calf over the seat.
I now get on in approved cowboy fashion, left foot on footpeg.
New hip incoming on April 23rd.
On 22/03/2026 17:40, Ben Blaney wrote:
Interestingly, the only strong correlation I have noted myself is gout attacks
following a period of high sugar consumption. Example: after halloween, or >> Christmas. I mentioned this to a fellow gout-sufferer a few years ago, who >> roundly and loudly told me I was wrong. But I read an article recently that my
hypothesis is indeed an aspect of current gout research. I'm not pre-diabetic,
according to bloodwork a few weeks ago, but it does make me wonder. Annual >> physical is on Tuesday, so I do plan to mention it to the doc.
I'm another gout sufferer, on allopurinol and with very occasional flare
ups (generally seen off with one or two colchicine tablets), and I
haven't spotted any definite correlations but suspect that getting dehydrated is a contributory factor.
On 21/03/2026 23:18, wessie wrote:
a naturalised American with Essex heritage, eating fruit?
you'd get better odds on me giving up bacon and booze
It could be worse, you could be Scottish.
As the quoted article says "The benefits seem to come mainly from anthocyanins. These deep red, blue and purple plant pigments found in berries, grapes and plums, for examples, have powerful antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties.", I suggest you find out whether switching from white wine to red would help.
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 23:18, wessie wrote:
a naturalised American with Essex heritage, eating fruit?
you'd get better odds on me giving up bacon and booze
It could be worse, you could be Scottish.
As the quoted article says "The benefits seem to come mainly from
anthocyanins. These deep red, blue and purple plant pigments found in
berries, grapes and plums, for examples, have powerful antioxidant
and anti-inflammatory properties.", I suggest you find out whether
switching from white wine to red would help.
JFTR I eat (snack, mostly) 2.5kg per week of dark red grapes, and
evening desert is a fresh-fruit salad made up of kiwi fruit, banana, blackberries, grapes, blackcurrants, raspberries, and
strawberriesrCaabout 250g per serving.
Note all the dark colours in that, great anti-inflammatoriesrCa
Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote in news:10pr4ja$288j$1@dont-email.me:
By "all its glorious forms", I mean a
negroni, a gimlet, a tom collins, a singapore sling, a last word, a
french 75, a fruit sour, a corpse reviver, an aviation.
I think of those cocktails, maybe the French 75 but otherwise most sound
very sweet, which is not my thing. I quite like a very dry Martini.
Never seen an aviation, which was a bit of an eye opener. Liquid parma violets.
all that sugar probably explains the gout!
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 19:26, Ben Blaney wrote:
On Mar 20, 2026 at 4:53:23 PM EDT, "wessie" <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote: >>>
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10pk81o$1slsr$1@dont-email.me:
Do we need to rename this UKRM_OldGits group"
I don't think that is necessary as nobody posting here is under any
illusion about the demographics of those few left standing.
I bet even Blaney is reaching for the ibuprofen bottle by now
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've
resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >>> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more >>> frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here
we are. I hate it, but here we are.
Humphf. I have a blood test booked to see whether I will need that stuff.
If that's the only medication you're on, I'd count myself lucky.
I was on allopurinol years ago, and for whatever reason, even though
I had some pretty severe symptoms and frequent flareups, I'd say it's
now been 15 to 20 years since I have had any symptoms, other than
being blessed with extra large big toe joints, but no pain. Knock
on wood. Of course there are other troubles, for which I take 12
(!) pills per day and my GP wants to add another one.
It's not all been sweetness and light. A warning of high blood
pressure "but lifestyle changes..." followed by an "oh, it's OK" a
year or so later, followed a day later by a phone call "you have high
HbA1c, you're marginally pre-diabetic, but lifestyle changes...".
So, I bought a Kinetik finger prick test kit and a Freestyle Libre
CGM. Both indicated that I was fine. I did manage to create a the only
spike out of the "green" range for the entire fortnight, by
deliberately necking a pint of Coke with a snack, but the subsequent
dip stayed within range.
I suspect with no medical knowledge that my slightly low blood iron
levels caused the HbA1c thing: apparently it does have an effect on
the readings.
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:n2gcooFcvs3U1@mid.individual.net:
It's not all been sweetness and light. A warning of high blood
pressure "but lifestyle changes..." followed by an "oh, it's OK" a
year or so later, followed a day later by a phone call "you have high
HbA1c, you're marginally pre-diabetic, but lifestyle changes...".
So, I bought a Kinetik finger prick test kit and a Freestyle Libre
CGM. Both indicated that I was fine. I did manage to create a the only
spike out of the "green" range for the entire fortnight, by
deliberately necking a pint of Coke with a snack, but the subsequent
dip stayed within range.
I suspect with no medical knowledge that my slightly low blood iron
levels caused the HbA1c thing: apparently it does have an effect on
the readings.
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
I had one in November, liver function "slightly elevated"
Repeat in January, all okay.
Had it in the past with a different liver function test. "We are worried about your GGT reading."
Me, "you know that meidcation you have prescribed for the last year affects this particular liver function test?"
Seems reading the medication leaflets and my A levels in biology and chemistry make me a better pharmacologist than some GPs!
wessie
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
To be fair, HbA1c should give an average over about 3 months.
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:n2gcooFcvs3U1@mid.individual.net:
It's not all been sweetness and light. A warning of high blood
pressure "but lifestyle changes..." followed by an "oh, it's OK" a
year or so later, followed a day later by a phone call "you have high
HbA1c, you're marginally pre-diabetic, but lifestyle changes...".
So, I bought a Kinetik finger prick test kit and a Freestyle Libre
CGM. Both indicated that I was fine. I did manage to create a the only
spike out of the "green" range for the entire fortnight, by
deliberately necking a pint of Coke with a snack, but the subsequent
dip stayed within range.
I suspect with no medical knowledge that my slightly low blood iron
levels caused the HbA1c thing: apparently it does have an effect on
the readings.
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
I had one in November, liver function "slightly elevated"
Repeat in January, all okay.
Had it in the past with a different liver function test. "We are worried about your GGT reading."
Me, "you know that meidcation you have prescribed for the last year affects this particular liver function test?"
Seems reading the medication leaflets and my A levels in biology and chemistry make me a better pharmacologist than some GPs!
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:n2gktvFe9ipU1@mid.individual.net:
wessie
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
To be fair, HbA1c should give an average over about 3 months.
there are loads of factors that can affect a HBA1c datum.
a few factors:Would building an extension and remodeling the house be stressful :-)
Stress
Having a cold in the weeks before the test
Using steriods e.g. asthma meds
Having a boozy week on the apres ski
One would hope a practitioner would take a complete medical history and repeat the test before diagnosing someone as pre-diabetic from a single reference point.
On 25/03/2026 08:25, wessie wrote:
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in
news:n2gktvFe9ipU1@mid.individual.net:
wessie
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
To be fair, HbA1c should give an average over about 3 months.
there are loads of factors that can affect a HBA1c datum.
Interesting.
a few factors:Would building an extension and remodeling the house be stressful :-)
Stress
Having a cold in the weeks before the test
Using steriods e.g. asthma meds
Having a boozy week on the apres ski
oooh, schedule tests Thur/Fri when I have ot been drinking for a few
days?
One would hope a practitioner would take a complete medical history
and repeat the test before diagnosing someone as pre-diabetic from a
single reference point.
It is meant to be a long term, 3 month, reading though isn't it? Which
is why they like to test 4-6months apart.
Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote in
news:n2feceF8ia7U1@mid.individual.net:
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
On 21/03/2026 23:18, wessie wrote:
a naturalised American with Essex heritage, eating fruit?
you'd get better odds on me giving up bacon and booze
It could be worse, you could be Scottish.
As the quoted article says "The benefits seem to come mainly from
anthocyanins. These deep red, blue and purple plant pigments found in
berries, grapes and plums, for examples, have powerful antioxidant
and anti-inflammatory properties.", I suggest you find out whether
switching from white wine to red would help.
JFTR I eat (snack, mostly) 2.5kg per week of dark red grapes, and
evening desert is a fresh-fruit salad made up of kiwi fruit, banana,
blackberries, grapes, blackcurrants, raspberries, and
strawberriesrCaabout 250g per serving.
Note all the dark colours in that, great anti-inflammatoriesrCa
you need some beetroot, carrot, red onion, bell peppers, chillies and turmeric to get a more diverse mix of antioxidants,
and less fructose.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10q082t$1ph2a$2@dont-email.me:
On 25/03/2026 08:25, wessie wrote:
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in
It is meant to be a long term, 3 month, reading though isn't it? Which
is why they like to test 4-6months apart.
yes but the reading only has to move from say 40 to 42 for the AI bot to
send an alert to the GP or diabetic nurse and they go full panic mode on
you, when they should be saying, okay, that might be a concern but let's
not attach a label to you and repeat in a few months.
On 24/03/2026 22:16, wessie wrote:Interesting thread, being on the edge of this. thanks.
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:n2gcooFcvs3U1@mid.individual.net:
It's not all been sweetness and light. A warning of high blood
pressure "but lifestyle changes..." followed by an "oh, it's OK" a
year or so later, followed a day later by a phone call "you have high
HbA1c, you're marginally pre-diabetic, but lifestyle changes...".
So, I bought a Kinetik finger prick test kit and a Freestyle Libre
CGM. Both indicated that I was fine. I did manage to create a the only
spike out of the "green" range for the entire fortnight, by
deliberately necking a pint of Coke with a snack, but the subsequent
dip stayed within range.
I suspect with no medical knowledge that my slightly low blood iron
levels caused the HbA1c thing: apparently it does have an effect on
the readings.
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
To be fair, HbA1c should give an average over about 3 months.
I had one in November, liver function "slightly elevated"
and less fructose.
An interesting observationa [ so I researched the facts based on foods intake.
On 25/03/2026 10:13, wessie wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10q082t$1ph2a$2@dont-email.me:
On 25/03/2026 08:25, wessie wrote:
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in
It is meant to be a long term, 3 month, reading though isn't it? Which
is why they like to test 4-6months apart.
yes but the reading only has to move from say 40 to 42 for the AI bot to
send an alert to the GP or diabetic nurse and they go full panic mode on
you, when they should be saying, okay, that might be a concern but let's
not attach a label to you and repeat in a few months.
Mine went from 38 to 45 over two years of steady upward progression by
2/3 each 6 months.
ThatrCOs why I'm on a pre-diabetic health on-line coaching course. Mind
you, most of the others in my intake are much younger and considerably 'fatter'.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote in news:10q082t$1ph2a$2@dont-email.me:
On 25/03/2026 08:25, wessie wrote:
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in
news:n2gktvFe9ipU1@mid.individual.net:
wessie
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
To be fair, HbA1c should give an average over about 3 months.
there are loads of factors that can affect a HBA1c datum.
Interesting.
a few factors:Would building an extension and remodeling the house be stressful :-)
Stress
Having a cold in the weeks before the test
Using steriods e.g. asthma meds
Having a boozy week on the apres ski
oooh, schedule tests Thur/Fri when I have ot been drinking for a few
days?
One would hope a practitioner would take a complete medical history
and repeat the test before diagnosing someone as pre-diabetic from a
single reference point.
It is meant to be a long term, 3 month, reading though isn't it? Which
is why they like to test 4-6months apart.
yes but the reading only has to move from say 40 to 42 for the AI bot to
send an alert to the GP or diabetic nurse and they go full panic mode on
you, when they should be saying, okay, that might be a concern but let's
not attach a label to you and repeat in a few months.
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 19:26:42 -0000 (UTC), Ben Blaney <benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
Well, reluctantly, I think I might have to self-identify as an old git. I've >> resisted for a while, but I think I'm going to have to begin taking a daily >> medication (allopurinol, because the gout attacks have been more and more
frequent). Taking a pill every day is for sure a mark of an old git, so here >> we are. I hate it, but here we are.
You too, huh :-(
I'm now on daily 20mg Omeprazole for GERD [1]. What people usually
call acid reflux of heartburn, but I was taking antacid most days, and
they put a camera down my gullet [2], and saw that I had some damage
to my lower oesophagus, and so it'a PPIs[3] for me for the rest of my
days
[1] gastroesophageal reflux disease
[2] one of the most unpleasant and disturbing experiences I've had.
Felt utterly alien and invasive
[3] Proton Pump Inhibitor
On 25/03/2026 08:25, wessie wrote:
PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:n2gktvFe9ipU1@mid.individual.net:
wessie
never take a single blood test reading too seriously
To be fair, HbA1c should give an average over about 3 months.
there are loads of factors that can affect a HBA1c datum.
Interesting.
a few factors:Would building an extension and remodeling-a the house be stressful :-)
Stress
Having a cold in the weeks before the test
Using steriods e.g. asthma meds
Having a boozy week on the apres ski
oooh, schedule tests Thur/Fri when I have ot been drinking for a few days?
One would hope a practitioner would take a complete medical history and
repeat the test before diagnosing someone as pre-diabetic from a single
reference point.
It is meant to be a long term, 3 month, reading though isn't it? Which
is why they like to test 4-6months apart.
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