On 11/03/2026 11:24, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
Remember that I am "vertically challenged".
Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in news:10orkuc$12auj$1@dont- email.me:
On 11/03/2026 11:24, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
Remember that I am "vertically challenged".
would not suit me in the knee & hip angles
ring A&D in Denbigh to check their policy. I bought the Guzzi there and
they have the full Piaggio set. Also Royal Enfield for you to compare and contrast. https://maps.app.goo.gl/MyiBEpUsCRqXQQVY6 about 2 hours from you. Sally is Dealer Principal and handles much of the sales.
Also try Frasers in Gloucester. Piaggio and RE. A bit closer to you. https://www.frasersmotorcycles.co.uk/
On 11/03/2026 11:24, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
Remember that I am "vertically challenged".
On 11/03/2026 11:50, Peter Fisher wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:24, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
Remember that I am "vertically challenged".
Seat lowering kit needed :-)
"Can I have a test ride?"
"Sure, you are over 21 ? "<laughing>
"78"
"Oh sorry our insurance for demo bikes is only for < 75"
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Wotcha.
"Can I have a test ride?"
"Sure, you are over 21 ? "<laughing>
"78"
"Oh sorry our insurance for demo bikes is only for < 75"
Many years ago I would 'alter' my age in order to
see X rated films at the local cinema.
I think the same would apply in this instance.
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Wotcha.
"Can I have a test ride?"
"Sure, you are over 21 ? "<laughing>
"78"
"Oh sorry our insurance for demo bikes is only for < 75"
Many years ago I would 'alter' my age in order to
see X rated films at the local cinema.
I think the same would apply in this instance.
Lone Wolf <lonewolf@moonshiners.org.uk> wrote in news:10os99l$1a1ec$1@dont- email.me:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Wotcha.
"Can I have a test ride?"
"Sure, you are over 21 ? "<laughing>
"78"
"Oh sorry our insurance for demo bikes is only for < 75"
Many years ago I would 'alter' my age in order to
see X rated films at the local cinema.
I think the same would apply in this instance.
except they take a photo of your driving licence and the personal number betrays your DOB YMMDDY
Up to 31st March registration to get the special Aprilia deal on offer
so I can bide my time for a few more days.
"Can I have a test ride?"
"Sure, you are over 21 ? "<laughing>
"78"
"Oh sorry our insurance for demo bikes is only for < 75"
Many years ago I would 'alter' my age in order to
see X rated films at the local cinema.
I think the same would apply in this instance.
except they take a photo of your driving licence and the personal number betrays your DOB YMMDDY
Lone Wolf <lonewolf@moonshiners.org.uk> wrote in news:10os99l$1a1ec$1@dont- >email.me:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Wotcha.
"Can I have a test ride?"
"Sure, you are over 21 ? "<laughing>
"78"
"Oh sorry our insurance for demo bikes is only for < 75"
Many years ago I would 'alter' my age in order to
see X rated films at the local cinema.
I think the same would apply in this instance.
except they take a photo of your driving licence and the personal number >betrays your DOB YMMDDY
A KTM 390 Duke - I hear you suggest. Well yes, but the Tuono is red!
Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in news:10orif1$11g8b$1@dont- email.me:
A KTM 390 Duke - I hear you suggest. Well yes, but the Tuono is red!
maybe sell your soul and buy the new drift king
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bfjaf28nrU
then show those upstarts down the Asda car park how its done
On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 17:47:53 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
except they take a photo of your driving licence and the personal number
betrays your DOB YMMDDY
Funny how some things stick in your memory. While one never had any
need to remember one's driver number, mine (UK one, I mean, which of
course I haven't used for 25 years) just sprang straight to mind
instantly when you mentioned it. Started with first five letters of
surname, then DoB slightly munged as you say, ended with initials and
a couple of random letters tagged on the end.
On 11/03/2026 16:39, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:50, Peter Fisher wrote:Already only 800mm. I have actually sat on one and could 'flatfoot'.
On 11/03/2026 11:24, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
Remember that I am "vertically challenged".
Seat lowering kit needed :-)
Just can't find a dealer who will let me have a test ride.
On 11/03/2026 17:27, Peter Fisher wrote:
On 11/03/2026 16:39, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:50, Peter Fisher wrote:Already only 800mm. I have actually sat on one and could 'flatfoot'.
On 11/03/2026 11:24, YTC1 wrote:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
Remember that I am "vertically challenged".
Seat lowering kit needed :-)
Just can't find a dealer who will let me have a test ride.
It would be the knee angle while riding that would concern me more
On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 17:47:53 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
Lone Wolf <lonewolf@moonshiners.org.uk> wrote in news:10os99l$1a1ec$1@dont- >> email.me:
On 11/03/2026 11:08, Peter Fisher wrote:
Wotcha.
"Can I have a test ride?"see X rated films at the local cinema.
"Sure, you are over 21 ? "<laughing>
"78"
"Oh sorry our insurance for demo bikes is only for <75"> Many years ago I >>>> would 'alter' my age in order to
I think the same would apply in this instance.
except they take a photo of your driving licence and the personal number
betrays your DOB YMMDDY
Funny how some things stick in your memory. While one never had any
need to remember one's driver number, mine (UK one, I mean, which of
course I haven't used for 25 years) just sprang straight to mind
instantly when you mentioned it. Started with first five letters of
surname, then DoB slightly munged as you say, ended with initials and
a couple of random letters tagged on the end.
Now even considering a Triumph 400 Speed.
Now even considering a Triumph 400 Speed.
maybe sell your soul and buy the new drift king https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bfjaf28nrU
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
would not suit me in the knee & hip angles
I got my provisional driving licence at the earliest possible opportunity, so >desperate I was for the thrill of commanding a machine, I looked at it >endlessly, between its arrival and my 17th birthday. That's when I memorized >the number.
On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 12:27:53 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
would not suit me in the knee & hip angles
I've finally got around to looking at some photos. Seems like an
entirely normal motorbike to me.
Bearing in mind that the last bike I found uncomfortable was a
minimoto, could you explain your (and maybe Bruce's) comments re
'angles', please?
On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 12:27:53 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
would not suit me in the knee & hip angles
I've finally got around to looking at some photos. Seems like an
entirely normal motorbike to me.
Bearing in mind that the last bike I found uncomfortable was a
minimoto, could you explain your (and maybe Bruce's) comments re
'angles', please?
On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 12:27:53 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
would not suit me in the knee & hip angles
I've finally got around to looking at some photos. Seems like an
entirely normal motorbike to me.
Bearing in mind that the last bike I found uncomfortable was a
minimoto, could you explain your (and maybe Bruce's) comments re
'angles', please?
On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 20:45:29 -0000 (UTC), Ben Blaney ><benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
I got my provisional driving licence at the earliest possible opportunity, so >>desperate I was for the thrill of commanding a machine, I looked at it >>endlessly, between its arrival and my 17th birthday. That's when I memorized >>the number.
I had a licence at 16 :-)
On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 10:42:18 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 20:45:29 -0000 (UTC), Ben Blaney >><benblaney@gmail.invalid> wrote:
I got my provisional driving licence at the earliest possible opportunity, so
desperate I was for the thrill of commanding a machine, I looked at it >>>endlessly, between its arrival and my 17th birthday. That's when I memorized >>>the number.
I had a licence at 16 :-)
Didn't everybody, back in the day? Used to ride my dad's C50 (he
thought it classed as a moped, although technically it did not).
I have zero understanding of kids these days who aren't getting their driver's licenses at the earliest possible date, of course for some
there are financial reasons, mom & dad don't have a car, etc. But
back then, in the 70s, it was unheard of not to get your license as
soon as you could. In fact, 'driver's ed' was a normal class during
the school day.
Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
news:10p1kan$3ej1l$1@dont-email.me:
I have zero understanding of kids these days who aren't getting their
driver's licenses at the earliest possible date, of course for some
there are financial reasons, mom & dad don't have a car, etc. But
back then, in the 70s, it was unheard of not to get your license as
soon as you could. In fact, 'driver's ed' was a normal class during
the school day.
my lad is 35, no driving licence
he has a partner who has a car. He has always lived in a suburb of the Portsmouth conurbation he has never thought about driving as a necessity.
He works shifts including weekends but there are buses 24/7 and ubers.
his mother drives an ambulance for a living and his late step dad was a bus driver
Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:8bq7rkp4t7hbllv78rhm86fjt03pf0pe47@ 4ax.com:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 12:27:53 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
would not suit me in the knee & hip angles
I've finally got around to looking at some photos. Seems like an
entirely normal motorbike to me.
Bearing in mind that the last bike I found uncomfortable was a
minimoto, could you explain your (and maybe Bruce's) comments re
'angles', please?
Until last year I owned a R1200RS
https://cycle-ergo.com/ shows a 21 deg lean forward
this aggravates my wonky right hip to the extent that after 70 miles I want to stop riding for a while. For a few years I amended the ergonomics by lowering footpegs and fitting bar risers. This made things better but I
guess my hip has got worse. It is only riding some bikes that aggravates
the hip, no other aspect of my daily living
I now ride a Moto Guzzi V85
Zero forward lean, little hip pain and it is my bladder that dictates the time to stop. Usually half a tank of fuel at 150 miles on NSL type roads.
The 450 Aprilia is not listed but other Tuono variants have 23 degrees of forward lean
I cannot speak for Bruce's situation.
Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
Didn't everybody, back in the day? Used to ride my dad's C50 (he
thought it classed as a moped, although technically it did not).
I started driving (off-road) at age 12 in an Anglia 105e. I've still
got the key: https://photos.app.goo.gl/dyAsms7bTV2thw4j6
I have zero understanding of kids these days who aren't getting their driver's licenses at the earliest possible date, of course for some
there are financial reasons, mom & dad don't have a car, etc. But
back then, in the 70s, it was unheard of not to get your license as
soon as you could. In fact, 'driver's ed' was a normal class during
the school day.
wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
news:10p1kan$3ej1l$1@dont-email.me:
I have zero understanding of kids these days who aren't getting their
driver's licenses at the earliest possible date, of course for some
there are financial reasons, mom & dad don't have a car, etc. But
back then, in the 70s, it was unheard of not to get your license as
soon as you could. In fact, 'driver's ed' was a normal class during
the school day.
my lad is 35, no driving licence
he has a partner who has a car. He has always lived in a suburb of the
Portsmouth conurbation he has never thought about driving as a necessity. >> He works shifts including weekends but there are buses 24/7 and ubers.
his mother drives an ambulance for a living and his late step dad was a bus >> driver
Honestly, I envy people who live in a situation where owning a
car would be optional. Around here, even in the center of the
Minneapolis/St. Paul metro, going car-free can be a challenge, as
buses and light rail are infrequent and offer far less geographical
coverage compared to the typical European city of a similar size.
My girls pretty much got driving as soon as they could. Liz's, however, didn't
learn until we got together and I took them out by then in their mid twenties.
The youngest hasn't driven since passing her test 10 years or so ago.
Going to see if the place that did the MoT on the 401 can suggest a
suitable handlebar change and do it for me.
Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in news:10p34lh$2n5s$1@dont-email.me:
Going to see if the place that did the MoT on the 401 can suggest a
suitable handlebar change and do it for me.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Risers-Svartpilen-Motorcycle-Aluminum-Handlebar/dp/B0DR26B68B?th=1
I had fancy Wunderlich versions of these fitted to the RS
they could be used with the R version as well with tubular bars
I had cheap ones from Ebay on the Tiger 1200 that brought the
bars closer to me as well as raising them
https://cycle-ergo.com/
On Mar 13, 2026 at 8:13:47 AM EDT, "Peter Fisher" <nospam@nosspam.net>
wrote:
That's really cool
https://cycle-ergo.com/
Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in news:10p34lh$2n5s$1@dont-email.me:
Going to see if the place that did the MoT on the 401 can suggest a suitable handlebar change and do it for me.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Risers-Svartpilen-Motorcycle-Aluminum-Handlebar/dp/ B0DR26B68B?th=1
I had fancy Wunderlich versions of these fitted to the RS
they could be used with the R version as well with tubular bars
I had cheap ones from Ebay on the Tiger 1200 that brought the
bars closer to me as well as raising them
In reply to "wessie" who wrote the following:
Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in news:10p34lh$2n5s$1@dont-email.me:
Going to see if the place that did the MoT on the 401 can suggest a
suitable handlebar change and do it for me.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Risers-Svartpilen-Motorcycle-Aluminum-Handlebar/dp/ >> B0DR26B68B?th=1
I had fancy Wunderlich versions of these fitted to the RS
they could be used with the R version as well with tubular bars
I had cheap ones from Ebay on the Tiger 1200 that brought the
bars closer to me as well as raising them
A mate had similar problems a while back, and couldn't get comforatble bars and
bought a set very similar to these; https://www.britishbikebits.com/dunstall-chrome-adjustable-jota-handlebars- universal-motorcycle
He found he could swivel them about and get exactly the position that was comfortable for him.
Aprilia Tuono 457
Looks nice, but maybe a little cramped for the legs?
would not suit me in the knee & hip angles
I've finally got around to looking at some photos. Seems like an
entirely normal motorbike to me.
Bearing in mind that the last bike I found uncomfortable was a
minimoto, could you explain your (and maybe Bruce's) comments re
'angles', please?
Until last year I owned a R1200RS
https://cycle-ergo.com/ shows a 21 deg lean forward
this aggravates my wonky right hip to the extent that after 70 miles I want >to stop riding for a while.
Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
news:10p1kan$3ej1l$1@dont-email.me:
I have zero understanding of kids these days who aren't getting their
driver's licenses at the earliest possible date
my lad is 35, no driving licence
On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 19:23:45 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
news:10p1kan$3ej1l$1@dont-email.me:
I have zero understanding of kids these days who aren't getting their
driver's licenses at the earliest possible date
my lad is 35, no driving licence
One of V's sons is 33, also no licence. And he doesn't live in a
city, either.
The world is changing
my lad is 35, no driving licence
he has a partner who has a car. He has always lived in a suburb of the Portsmouth conurbation he has never thought about driving as a necessity.
He works shifts including weekends but there are buses 24/7 and ubers.
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