• Curtilage poppies

    From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 09:19:10 2025
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    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my
    own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 09:29:49 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my
    own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?


    I just thought, is there a type of culinary poppy seed that is
    germinatable, perennial from the rootstock when established and for me preferably orange flowers.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 10:03:03 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Once upon a time I was doing a contract in Oxford that required me to
    stay there and as parking is impossible, I used to walk from work from
    the B & B I stayed at.
    Along the route were some magnificent mauve opium poppies. Towards the
    end of the contract these began to die and I collected all of the seed
    pods before they could release the seeds and scattered then all around
    where I lived.
    Next year mauve opium poppies were everywhere, I think I still have some descendants in my garden in my new house today some 40 years later.
    Poppies do not transplant. They need to be grown from seed where they
    are intended to live. Thin out any substandard specimens. Once they have finished blooming collect all the seed pods and store till they dry out
    and release the seeds. Rinse and repeat.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 10:04:32 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 09:29, N_Cook wrote:
    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such
    poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my
    own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla
    gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?


    I just thought, is there a type of culinary poppy seed that is
    germinatable, perennial from the rootstock when established and for me preferably orange flowers.

    I have a few perennial poppies. I think they are called oriental poppies.

    But I am not sure the seeds would be what you want.
    Just collect seed and keep sowing the annuals.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 10:04:59 2025
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    N_Cook wrote:

    a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between front
    garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see.

    I like them when they're actually in flower, but that seems such a short period of their life, outside of which they look a bit untidy ... they certainly reappear each year, not necessarily in the same places.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 11:45:19 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 10:04, Andy Burns wrote:
    N_Cook wrote:

    a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between front
    garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see.

    I like them when they're actually in flower, but that seems such a short period of their life, outside of which they look a bit untidy ... they certainly reappear each year, not necessarily in the same places.

    Only thing to do is let them pop up and pull the ones 'in the wrong places'
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 11:48:22 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my
    own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    I can grow many things but poppies defy me. I have tried buying
    perennial ones in pots and very carefully replant them without
    disturbance. I might get one flower that year, but that's it. They never self-seed. Or I get seeds from dry flower heads and spread them around.
    After all, they come up everywhere else on their own, even if sown years before.

    They don't germinate for me... :-(((
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 12:38:31 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 11:48, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such
    poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my
    own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla
    gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    I can grow many things but poppies defy me. I have tried buying
    perennial ones in pots and very carefully replant them without
    disturbance. I might get one flower that year, but that's it. They never self-seed. Or I get seeds from dry flower heads and spread them around.
    After all, they come up everywhere else on their own, even if sown years before.

    They don't germinate for me... :-(((


    I've tried california, iceland, Lauren Grape, and from a seed swap
    unknown purple and also "perennial pretty orange" all germinating but
    not transplanting well. All are tiny black seeds.
    I just bought 100gm of Sainsbury culinary seeds, large blue/grey seeds
    which is probably ominous for germination, some sort of processing?. If
    they do germinate in the next couple of weeks then I'll try seed bombing
    , if we ever get another wet spell and repeat at each wet spell after that.
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  • From Bob Hobden@hobdens@btinternet.com to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 17:53:22 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Orange poppies? sounds like Welsh Poppies (Papaver cambricum)leaves are feathery and the plants only get about 6 inches tall. I find they pop up
    where they want to, indeed they moved from our front garden to the rear.
    Never a problem, ours are pure yellow but lots are orange.
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 18:28:59 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 17:53, Bob Hobden wrote:
    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see
    such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried
    my own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a
    guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed
    bombing in a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Orange poppies? sounds like Welsh Poppies (Papaver cambricum)leaves are feathery and the plants only get about 6 inches tall. I find they pop up where they want to, indeed they moved from our front garden to the rear. Never a problem, ours are pure yellow but lots are orange.

    It grows like a weed here in the NE.
    It has colonised a whole Victorian terrace.
    Mine ~9" tall and all pale yellow.
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  • From Stewart Robert Hinsley@{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 19:44:29 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 17:53, Bob Hobden wrote:
    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see
    such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried
    my own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a
    guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed
    bombing in a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Orange poppies? sounds like Welsh Poppies (Papaver cambricum)leaves are feathery and the plants only get about 6 inches tall. I find they pop up where they want to, indeed they moved from our front garden to the rear. Never a problem, ours are pure yellow but lots are orange.

    Welsh poppies are usually rather taller than 6 inches tall.

    Orange poppies could be Papaver dubium (long headed poppy), which is
    annual, Papaver atlanticum (Atlas poppy), a perennial, both of which are reddish-orange, or the orange form of Papaver cambricum, which is a
    short lived perennial.

    Papaver cambricum will transplant, but there's a fair risk of losing the plants that way.

    All three species, and Papaver rhoeas and Papaver somniferum, occur as pavement weeds, but I am not certain that the species would persist in
    the absence of recruitment from cultivated plants.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 20:10:28 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 19:44, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
    On 05/05/2025 17:53, Bob Hobden wrote:
    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap
    between front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see.
    Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried
    my own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a
    guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed
    bombing in a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Orange poppies? sounds like Welsh Poppies (Papaver cambricum)leaves
    are feathery and the plants only get about 6 inches tall. I find they
    pop up where they want to, indeed they moved from our front garden to
    the rear. Never a problem, ours are pure yellow but lots are orange.

    Welsh poppies are usually rather taller than 6 inches tall.

    Orange poppies could be Papaver dubium (long headed poppy), which is
    annual, Papaver atlanticum (Atlas poppy), a perennial, both of which are reddish-orange, or the orange form of Papaver cambricum, which is a
    short lived perennial.

    Papaver cambricum will transplant, but there's a fair risk of losing the plants that way.

    All three species, and Papaver rhoeas and Papaver somniferum, occur as pavement weeds, but I am not certain that the species would persist in
    the absence of recruitment from cultivated plants.

    I can confirm that Papaver somniferum certainly does.
    And of course, wild poppies do as well - whatever they are.
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  • From Janet@nobody@home.com to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 5 23:37:22 2025
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    In article <vv9s9u$2kf1$1@dont-email.me>,
    diverse@tcp.co.uk says...

    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Where there's a clump of poppies, there's a large supply
    of free seed. Each flower produces a seed pod like a
    pepper pot, containing hundreds of tiny black seeds.
    Collect seed from the ripe pods (before they open) and
    scatter it thinly on the soil surface, where you want
    poppies.

    Annual poppies often thrive best in poor dry conditions.

    Janet
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Wed May 7 12:15:02 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 23:37, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv9s9u$2kf1$1@dont-email.me>,
    diverse@tcp.co.uk says...

    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such
    poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my
    own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla
    gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Where there's a clump of poppies, there's a large supply
    of free seed. Each flower produces a seed pod like a
    pepper pot, containing hundreds of tiny black seeds.
    Collect seed from the ripe pods (before they open) and
    scatter it thinly on the soil surface, where you want
    poppies.

    Annual poppies often thrive best in poor dry conditions.

    Janet


    One of the local in-the-wild orange poppies
    has lost its petals in the last couple of days.
    Leaving green seed pods, what colour of brown or whatever indication ,
    as to ripeness to harvest seed, leaving one pod for ongoing nearby supply.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Wed May 7 12:19:00 2025
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    On 07/05/2025 12:15, N_Cook wrote:
    On 05/05/2025 23:37, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv9s9u$2kf1$1@dont-email.me>,
    diverse@tcp.co.uk says...

    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such
    poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my >>> own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla >>> gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    -a-a Where there's a clump of poppies, there's a large supply
    of free seed. Each flower produces a seed pod like a
    pepper pot,-a containing-a hundreds-a of tiny black seeds.
    Collect seed from the ripe pods (before they open) and
    scatter it thinly-a on the soil surface, where you want
    poppies.

    Annual poppies-a often thrive best in poor dry conditions.

    -a-a-a Janet


    One of the local in-the-wild orange poppies
    -ahas lost its petals in the last couple of days.
    Leaving green seed pods, what colour of brown or whatever indication ,
    as to ripeness to harvest seed, leaving one pod for ongoing nearby supply.

    If they shake rattle and roll then you can pick them and the seeds come
    out like a pepper pot


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  • From Janet@nobody@home.com to uk.rec.gardening on Wed May 7 19:27:46 2025
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    In article <vvffbk$vvqd$1@dont-email.me>,
    diverse@tcp.co.uk says...

    On 05/05/2025 23:37, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv9s9u$2kf1$1@dont-email.me>,
    diverse@tcp.co.uk says...

    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such
    poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my >> own, but miserable failure everyyear, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla >> gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    Where there's a clump of poppies, there's a large supply
    of free seed. Each flower produces a seed pod like a
    pepper pot, containing hundreds of tiny black seeds.
    Collect seed from the ripe pods (before they open) and
    scatter it thinly on the soil surface, where you want
    poppies.

    Annual poppies often thrive best in poor dry conditions.

    Janet


    One of the local in-the-wild orange poppies
    has lost its petals in the last couple of days.
    Leaving green seed pods, what colour of brown or whatever indication ,
    as to ripeness to harvest seed, leaving one pod for ongoing nearby supply.

    Tan colour. Also when the seeds inside have turned from
    green to black

    Janet
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Mon May 12 11:52:57 2025
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    On Friday I bought 100gm of white poppy seeds ,TRS brand, from an Asian
    food shop. Test germination at UK room temperature and they are already showing first roots, the blue ones sown from last wednesday still as sown.
    What colour flowers they turn out to be I suspect not white and blue.
    For orange ones, a nearby garden has a large display of them currently,
    I'll try asking him/her for permission to rob some of the pepper pots
    when appropriate.
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  • From Tahiri@tahiri2@tanygraig.force9.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Wed May 14 09:01:52 2025
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    On 05/05/2025 09:19, N_Cook wrote:
    Round me a number of houses have poppies every year in the gap between
    front garden wall and the pavement, I quite like to see. Never see such poppies in the gardens though.
    Now councils seem to be disinclined to weed spray so much, I've tried my own, but miserable failure every year, transfering seedlings and
    watering, get eaten or dog piss or something.
    I assume as all the other apearances are orange poppies, that a guerilla gardener has a large supply of cost-free seeds and goes seed bombing in
    a wet period sometime.
    Anyone any knowledge how its done?

    The seed description you are needing is 'Welsh Poppies'. Although
    usually illustrated as pale yellow, they are also widely found as orange
    and I am told they can be bought as such. I am sure they would be better
    than spreading your foreign asian ones in the wild. (Although culinary
    poppy seed is probably the mauve opium poppy anyway!)
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Sat May 17 15:36:26 2025
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    Harvested my first pepper pot of orange poppy seed. I'd say fawn colour
    of pot with a tinge of green remaining, more in there than I expected on turning upside down , black and much smaller than the culinary blue and
    white seed.
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Sun May 18 11:21:39 2025
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    The optimum harvest time for these orange poppy "pepper pots" is when
    there are pale green and fawn stripes to the pods.
    The "blue" culinary poppy seeds just showing simple physical
    swelling/cracking of the blue/grey casings and internal white showing up
    but no sign of any biological germination.
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Sat May 31 13:53:59 2025
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    On 18/05/2025 11:21, N_Cook wrote:
    The optimum harvest time for these orange poppy "pepper pots" is when
    there are pale green and fawn stripes to the pods.
    The "blue" culinary poppy seeds just showing simple physical swelling/cracking of the blue/grey casings and internal white showing up
    but no sign of any biological germination.


    For the current crop of seeding urban wild curtilage poppies at
    different sites around Southampton, I'm surprised the variety of "pepper pots".
    Red flower, brown seed in bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, tiny black seed , taller bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, large black seed, banana shapa pods, 50mm long 5mm diameter.
    No yellow ones seen
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Sat May 31 16:23:11 2025
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    On 31/05/2025 13:53, N_Cook wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 11:21, N_Cook wrote:
    The optimum harvest time for these orange poppy "pepper pots" is when
    there are pale green and fawn stripes to the pods.
    The "blue" culinary poppy seeds just showing simple physical
    swelling/cracking of the blue/grey casings and internal white showing up
    but no sign of any biological germination.


    For the current crop of seeding urban wild curtilage poppies at
    different sites around Southampton, I'm surprised the variety of "pepper pots".
    Red flower, brown seed in bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, tiny black seed , taller bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, large black seed, banana shapa pods, 50mm long 5mm diameter. No yellow ones seen

    I love my huge magenta ones
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    "Jeremy Corbyn?"


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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Sat May 31 17:12:39 2025
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    On 31/05/2025 16:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/05/2025 13:53, N_Cook wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 11:21, N_Cook wrote:
    The optimum harvest time for these orange poppy "pepper pots" is when
    there are pale green and fawn stripes to the pods.
    The "blue" culinary poppy seeds just showing simple physical
    swelling/cracking of the blue/grey casings and internal white showing up >>> but no sign of any biological germination.


    For the current crop of seeding urban wild curtilage poppies at
    different sites around Southampton, I'm surprised the variety of
    "pepper pots".
    Red flower, brown seed in bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, tiny black seed , taller bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, large black seed, banana shapa pods, 50mm long 5mm
    diameter.
    No yellow ones seen

    I love my huge magenta ones


    Are they the ones the size of desert bowls with 4 dramatic black patches?
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Sat May 31 22:18:02 2025
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    On 31/05/2025 17:12, N_Cook wrote:
    On 31/05/2025 16:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/05/2025 13:53, N_Cook wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 11:21, N_Cook wrote:
    The optimum harvest time for these orange poppy "pepper pots" is when
    there are pale green and fawn stripes to the pods.
    The "blue" culinary poppy seeds just showing simple physical
    swelling/cracking of the blue/grey casings and internal white
    showing up
    but no sign of any biological germination.


    For the current crop of seeding urban wild curtilage poppies at
    different sites around Southampton, I'm surprised the variety of
    "pepper pots".
    Red flower, brown seed in bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, tiny black seed , taller bulbous cup shape pods
    Orange flower, large black seed, banana shapa pods, 50mm long 5mm
    diameter.
    No yellow ones seen

    I love my huge magenta ones


    Are they the ones the size of desert bowls with 4 dramatic black patches?

    Sometimes. Mostly a bit smaller. https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/opium-poppy-papaver-somniferum-garden-2321700481
    That's the ones.
    I was working on a contract at Research Machines in Oxford back in the
    80s and I used to walk from the B & B to their offices in Mill street
    past a patch of them growing in the verge.

    I liked them so much I took their seeds and planted them at my cottage,
    and when I bought the current house I took seed with me.

    Now they pop up everywhere and I just weed out the ones in unsuitable
    places and let the rest do their thing.

    They, and my apple mint, which I got from a friend in the early 1980s,
    have been with me the longest.
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Fri Jun 6 15:42:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.gardening

    The orange curtilage poppies that grow each year locally are probably
    papaver dubium, by the long seedpod shape .
    Sainsbury "blue" poppy seed seems to be non viable for germination.
    But a packet of Gamma brand , presumably not gamma irradiated. From
    Poland in a Polish shop, also were slate blue seeds,but in there were
    say 10% brown ones which have germinated, the blue ones just expanded
    showing white but no radicals ,so far anyway.
    I've seen red,orange,yellow, pink and purple curtilage poppies this
    year, courtesy of no council spraying it seems.
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