• Suggestions please for a free standing hoist for lifting large plant pots -Xpost

    From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 15:45:49 2026
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    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re-
    potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously designed to
    slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and the new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with suitable wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?

    Cheers



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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 16:09:58 2026
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    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 15:45:49 +0000, David wrote:

    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re- potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go
    with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that
    the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously
    designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and the
    new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with suitable
    wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?
    <snip>

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/FoxHunter-Quality-Folding-Engine-Crane/dp/ B004DDWPEO/?th=1>

    At around -u150 this is roughly equivalent to two days hire, so seems a possible option.

    I already have an electric hoist, so a tripod for this might be another option.

    Cheers



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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 16:16:51 2026
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    On 11/03/2026 16:09, David wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 15:45:49 +0000, David wrote:

    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re-
    potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go
    with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that
    the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously
    designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and the
    new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with suitable
    wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?
    <snip>

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/FoxHunter-Quality-Folding-Engine-Crane/dp/ B004DDWPEO/?th=1>

    At around -u150 this is roughly equivalent to two days hire, so seems a possible option.

    I already have an electric hoist, so a tripod for this might be another option.

    Cheers



    Dave R



    You might do worse than rigging a 2 x 4 across two step ladders and
    getting a 'come along' to lift the trees...
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  • From Joe@joe@jretrading.com to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 16:25:27 2026
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    On 11 Mar 2026 15:45:49 GMT
    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re- potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go
    with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure
    that the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels
    (obviously designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be
    suitable.

    No, there doesn't seem to be a ready-made solution until you're a
    professional, lifting and moving large trees.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and
    the new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with
    suitable wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?


    The pot 'drops off'? We have a number of medium-sized shrubs, and
    sometimes the pot is extremely difficult to remove, even though it has
    sloping sides. The roots grip the sides surprisingly well if the plant
    is root-bound, which is usually why repotting is needed.

    If there's a few to do, you might end up constructing something with a
    pulley hoist and maybe a few bits of wood pergola posts. You might even
    get away with a large stepladder, a crosspiece and hoist. We do
    actually have a pergola, which would work for small trees up to about
    2m, as long as they don't weigh more than I do. Someone on the net was
    using a tripod of scaffold poles supporting the hoist.

    With shrubs, you can usually lay it down on its side, and work the pot
    off, but that's obviously not going to work with a tree with a sizeable
    spread.
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  • From Harry Bloomfield Esq@harry.m1byt@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 16:50:16 2026
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    On 11/03/2026 15:45, David wrote:
    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Tripod of 3x2's, a bit longer than the height of your tree, lash and
    bolt one end of the three together - that will give you a high mounting
    point for either a pulley, or a winch.

    Alternatively, if you have a two story home, and can get the tree close
    to a wall - A length of timber across a part open window up high, then
    suspend your pulley/winch from that.
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 17:57:43 2026
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    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re- potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    Is the old pot valuable? A sledgehammer might be the cheapest solution.
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 19:17:07 2026
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    On 11/03/2026 16:50, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 11/03/2026 15:45, David wrote:
    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that
    the
    narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously designed to
    slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Tripod of 3x2's, a bit longer than the height of your tree, lash and
    bolt one end of the three together - that will give you a high mounting point for either a pulley, or a winch.

    Alternatively, if you have a two story home, and can get the tree close
    to a wall - A length of timber across a part open window up high, then suspend your pulley/winch from that.

    That sounds like a massive strain on a poor unsuspecting window.
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 20:58:15 2026
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    On 11/03/2026 19:17, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 11/03/2026 16:50, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 11/03/2026 15:45, David wrote:
    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure
    that the
    narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously
    designed to
    slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Tripod of 3x2's, a bit longer than the height of your tree, lash and
    bolt one end of the three together - that will give you a high
    mounting point for either a pulley, or a winch.

    Alternatively, if you have a two story home, and can get the tree
    close to a wall - A length of timber across a part open window up
    high, then suspend your pulley/winch from that.

    That sounds like a massive strain on a poor unsuspecting window.


    It's the walls either side of the windows that take the weight. A piece
    of wood over the window sill, perhaps with a pillow beneath it, will
    spread the load. Pillows against the wall either side of the windows can
    also prevent cosmetic damage to wallpaper/paint.

    I've done similar to secure a ladder horizontally over a bit of first
    floor roofing to allow safer access for maintenance.

    Note: a few weeks ago I tried to get a 3 foot tall shrub out of the
    large plastic pot it had been in for the past 10 years. I could not
    knock the pot off. Even when destroying the pot on one side I still had
    great difficulty removing the rest of the pot. The shrub was completely
    root bound. Before attempting to remove the shrub I had given it a
    drastic prune back. It is now planted in my back garden flower bed.
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.rec.gardening on Wed Mar 11 21:22:17 2026
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    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re- potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and the new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with suitable wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?

    Another suggestion - though not quite what you asked. Is the tree small
    enough to be laid on its side? If so, the pot could be dislodged by
    banging it sideways with a heavy lump of wood (or something else heavy
    with some protection against cracking the pot). Even a rope tied to the
    tow hitch of a car could be used.

    A new pot could be slid in position and the whole thing pulled upright
    again, with a rope and/or help from the neighbours.
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Thu Mar 12 08:12:46 2026
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    On 11/03/2026 15:45, David wrote:
    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re- potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and the new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with suitable wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?

    It helps to run an old, long-bladed breadknife around the inside of the
    pot to cut through as many roots as possible. I keep one in the shed
    just for that purpose, as I felt that The Management might have objected
    to me using the kitchen one. ;-)
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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Thu Mar 12 15:09:43 2026
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    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 16:16:51 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 11/03/2026 16:09, David wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 15:45:49 +0000, David wrote:

    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re-
    potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go
    with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that
    the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously
    designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and the
    new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with
    suitable wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?
    <snip>

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/FoxHunter-Quality-Folding-Engine-Crane/dp/
    B004DDWPEO/?th=1>

    At around -u150 this is roughly equivalent to two days hire, so seems a
    possible option.

    I already have an electric hoist, so a tripod for this might be another
    option.

    Cheers



    Dave R



    You might do worse than rigging a 2 x 4 across two step ladders and
    getting a 'come along' to lift the trees...

    Interesting.
    What is a "come along", though?

    Cheers


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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.rec.gardening,uk.d-i-y on Thu Mar 12 15:36:30 2026
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    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 21:22:17 +0000, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

    We have a number of small trees in large pots, some of which need re-
    potting.

    We re-potted an olive a couple of years back and it was touch and go
    with getting the tree out of the old pot and into the new pot.

    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that
    the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously
    designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Then again, a straight lift by the trunk so the pot drops off, and the
    new larger pot can be slid underneath, might do the trick with suitable
    wood underneath.

    Has anyone had the need to do this and come up with a solution?

    Another suggestion - though not quite what you asked. Is the tree small enough to be laid on its side? If so, the pot could be dislodged by
    banging it sideways with a heavy lump of wood (or something else heavy
    with some protection against cracking the pot). Even a rope tied to the
    tow hitch of a car could be used.

    A new pot could be slid in position and the whole thing pulled upright
    again, with a rope and/or help from the neighbours.

    Last time we tried this:
    Lifted pot onto a stack of full compost bags and similar laid on its side. Nearly killed us.
    Eased the small tree out of the pot.
    Lifted small tree from resting place into new larger pot next to the stack
    of bags, already partially filled with compost.
    Nearly killed us.

    From this I concluded that next time we tried this, mechanical assistance should be an option.

    Cheers


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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Thu Mar 12 15:39:31 2026
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    David wrote:

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    You might do worse than rigging a 2 x 4 across two step ladders and
    getting a 'come along' to lift the trees...

    Interesting.
    What is a "come along", though?
    Hand operated ratchet winch, e.g.

    <https://toolstation.com/streetwize-pull-winch/p98107>
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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.gardening on Thu Mar 12 15:40:05 2026
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    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 16:50:16 +0000, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:

    On 11/03/2026 15:45, David wrote:
    My initial search on line gives me engine hoists but I'm not sure that
    the narrow(ish) angle of the legs and the small wheels (obviously
    designed to slip under a car on a solid floor) will be suitable.

    Tripod of 3x2's, a bit longer than the height of your tree, lash and
    bolt one end of the three together - that will give you a high mounting
    point for either a pulley, or a winch.

    Alternatively, if you have a two story home, and can get the tree close
    to a wall - A length of timber across a part open window up high, then suspend your pulley/winch from that.

    No second floor windows available at the back or side.

    Using the front might be a bit fiddly as it is a bay window.

    I was really looking for a ready made solution, though this is a DIY forum.

    Cheers



    Dave R
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