• Cycling group concerned about pedestrian safety!

    From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.rec.cycling on Fri Apr 26 12:08:23 2024
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.cycling

    [Cycling group concerned about cycles, with regard to pedestrian safety!!]

    [Cyclist donrCOt like e-bikes in cycle lanes because they are too heavy and
    too fast. Just like the difference between footway cyclists and pedestrians EfOa]


    Government's 500W and throttle e-bike proposals are 'unnecessary, risky and
    the wrong approach' say UK trade bodies

    by Rebecca Morley Apr 23 2024

    BA and ACT say safer infrastructure and purchase incentives are needed for 'real' e-bike growth

    The governmentrCOs recent e-bike proposals to double the legal wattage of motors to 500W and allow rCytwist and gorCO e-bikes with throttle control up to 15.5mph are rCyunnecessaryrCO, rCyriskyrCO, and the rCywrong approachrCO, the Bicycle
    Association (BA) and Association of Cycle Traders (ACT) have said.

    The Department for Transport (DfT) announced the proposed changes in
    February, with the rationale that they will make electrically assisted
    pedal cycles (EAPCs), rCLa more attractive and viable travel option for more peoplerCY.

    But the BA and ACT are rCystrongly recommendingrCO that the industry oppose both changes, saying that the current regulations, rCLwork well overall, with huge potential for growth as seen in other countriesrCY.

    [Linked article] Electric bikes and UK law

    They added: rCLThererCOs no evidence these changes would significantly boost demand - instead, for real e-bike growth we need safer cycling
    infrastructure, and purchase incentives to address affordability.rCY

    The trade bodies also said it would take reputable suppliers time to
    deliver safe, tested products to a new specification. rCLSo in the short-term this change will drive customers to order high fire risk 500W products
    online, and/or to tamper with existing e-bikes, also with potential fire risk,rCY they said.

    rCLLonger-term, it risks moped-style regulations on the whole e-bike
    category, because with no pedalling required e-bikes would be seen as light mopeds, not as cycles. There are also as yet unquantified risks from more powerful, heavier e-bikes sharing cycle lanes, risking further regulatory backlash.rCY

    [Linked article] You can legally ride the Swifty Go GT500 e-scooter on UK
    roads (because technically, it's a moped)

    They added that while the industry welcomes innovation and the potential of
    new micromobility vehicle categories, rCLthese proposals do not provide a sustainable framework for these new opportunities.

    rCLWe strongly urge that any new vehicle types, for example 500W, throttle e-bikes or e-scooters, be introduced under the comprehensive LZEV framework approach which was already proposed by the current government, to provide category-specific regulations appropriate to each new vehicle type, and
    leave the well proven EAPC regulations broadly unchanged.rCY

    [Linked article] "Zero" chance of e-scooter safety legislation this year - Government accused of 'ducking' responsibility

    Last month, charity Cycling UK said the proposals present a rCLhuge safety riskrCY to pedestrians and others who cycle. Director of external affairs, Sarah McMonagle, said the increased power, "would mean faster acceleration
    and much heavier bikes, which werCOre really concerned about.rCY

    The BA also previously suggested that higher powered vehicles would
    accelerate more quickly and would require bigger batteries, making them
    heavier and more dangerous in crashes.

    It said that while the idea of more power and throttles may seem
    superficially attractive, rCLwe believe it cannot be introduced without
    putting at risk the electric cyclerCOs category status as rCynot a motor vehicle'."

    McMonagle also said that e-bikes with no pedal requirement would reduce the health benefits of e-cycling - "in essence, they would blur the line
    between e-bikes and electric motorbikesrCY.

    [Linked article] Study finds e-bikes may lead to people giving up cars and
    says they should be at core of planning

    ACT director Jonathan Harrison said e-bike sales are rCLcriticalrCY to the success of cycle retailers across the UK, rCLand we are really concerned that these proposals will put that at risk.

    rCLBlurring the lines between e-bikes and mopeds risks a regulatory backlash which could easily make the entire e-bike category less attractive, and
    that could be disastrous for the cycle trade. WerCOre asking retailers, and their customers, to speak up and respond to this consultation.rCY

    Steve Garidis, BA executive director, said: rCLThese proposed changes may
    seem superficially appealing to some users, but everyone in the industry
    should realise that they fundamentally change the nature of the e-bike. And that puts at risk its status of being treated like a bicycle in law, rather than as a moped.

    rCLWe strongly urge everyone in the industry to respond to this consultation
    - and to urge e-bike end users and customers who love the freedom of using their e-bike just like a bicycle, to do so too.rCY

    The consultation began on February 29 and will run until 11:59pm on April
    25.

    <https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/news/governments-500w-and-throttle-e-bike-proposals-are-unnecessary-risky-and-the-wrong>
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.rec.cycling on Fri Apr 26 15:22:03 2024
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.cycling

    On 26/04/2024 01:08 pm, Spike wrote:
    [Cycling group concerned about cycles, with regard to pedestrian safety!!]

    [Cyclist donrCOt like e-bikes in cycle lanes because they are too heavy and too fast. Just like the difference between footway cyclists and pedestrians EfOa]


    Government's 500W and throttle e-bike proposals are 'unnecessary, risky and the wrong approach' say UK trade bodies

    by Rebecca Morley Apr 23 2024

    BA and ACT say safer infrastructure and purchase incentives are needed for 'real' e-bike growth

    The governmentrCOs recent e-bike proposals to double the legal wattage of motors to 500W and allow rCytwist and gorCO e-bikes with throttle control up to
    15.5mph are rCyunnecessaryrCO, rCyriskyrCO, and the rCywrong approachrCO, the Bicycle
    Association (BA) and Association of Cycle Traders (ACT) have said.

    The Department for Transport (DfT) announced the proposed changes in February, with the rationale that they will make electrically assisted
    pedal cycles (EAPCs), rCLa more attractive and viable travel option for more peoplerCY.

    But the BA and ACT are rCystrongly recommendingrCO that the industry oppose both changes, saying that the current regulations, rCLwork well overall, with huge potential for growth as seen in other countriesrCY.

    [Linked article] Electric bikes and UK law

    They added: rCLThererCOs no evidence these changes would significantly boost demand - instead, for real e-bike growth we need safer cycling infrastructure, and purchase incentives to address affordability.rCY

    The trade bodies also said it would take reputable suppliers time to
    deliver safe, tested products to a new specification. rCLSo in the short-term this change will drive customers to order high fire risk 500W products online, and/or to tamper with existing e-bikes, also with potential fire risk,rCY they said.

    rCLLonger-term, it risks moped-style regulations on the whole e-bike category, because with no pedalling required e-bikes would be seen as light mopeds, not as cycles. There are also as yet unquantified risks from more powerful, heavier e-bikes sharing cycle lanes, risking further regulatory backlash.rCY

    [Linked article] You can legally ride the Swifty Go GT500 e-scooter on UK roads (because technically, it's a moped)

    They added that while the industry welcomes innovation and the potential of new micromobility vehicle categories, rCLthese proposals do not provide a sustainable framework for these new opportunities.

    rCLWe strongly urge that any new vehicle types, for example 500W, throttle e-bikes or e-scooters, be introduced under the comprehensive LZEV framework approach which was already proposed by the current government, to provide category-specific regulations appropriate to each new vehicle type, and
    leave the well proven EAPC regulations broadly unchanged.rCY

    [Linked article] "Zero" chance of e-scooter safety legislation this year - Government accused of 'ducking' responsibility

    Last month, charity Cycling UK said the proposals present a rCLhuge safety riskrCY to pedestrians and others who cycle. Director of external affairs, Sarah McMonagle, said the increased power, "would mean faster acceleration and much heavier bikes, which werCOre really concerned about.rCY

    The BA also previously suggested that higher powered vehicles would accelerate more quickly and would require bigger batteries, making them heavier and more dangerous in crashes.

    It said that while the idea of more power and throttles may seem superficially attractive, rCLwe believe it cannot be introduced without putting at risk the electric cyclerCOs category status as rCynot a motor vehicle'."

    McMonagle also said that e-bikes with no pedal requirement would reduce the health benefits of e-cycling - "in essence, they would blur the line
    between e-bikes and electric motorbikesrCY.

    [Linked article] Study finds e-bikes may lead to people giving up cars and says they should be at core of planning

    ACT director Jonathan Harrison said e-bike sales are rCLcriticalrCY to the success of cycle retailers across the UK, rCLand we are really concerned that these proposals will put that at risk.

    rCLBlurring the lines between e-bikes and mopeds risks a regulatory backlash which could easily make the entire e-bike category less attractive, and
    that could be disastrous for the cycle trade. WerCOre asking retailers, and their customers, to speak up and respond to this consultation.rCY

    Steve Garidis, BA executive director, said: rCLThese proposed changes may seem superficially appealing to some users, but everyone in the industry should realise that they fundamentally change the nature of the e-bike. And that puts at risk its status of being treated like a bicycle in law, rather than as a moped.

    rCLWe strongly urge everyone in the industry to respond to this consultation - and to urge e-bike end users and customers who love the freedom of using their e-bike just like a bicycle, to do so too.rCY

    The consultation began on February 29 and will run until 11:59pm on April
    25.

    <https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/news/governments-500w-and-throttle-e-bike-proposals-are-unnecessary-risky-and-the-wrong>

    E-chav-bikes should sell well in late October and very early November.

    Guaranteed to make sure the bonfire gets started, even if it rains.
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