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On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 5:00:18 PM UTC, Eiron wrote:

On 20/03/2017 16:54, Graeme Wall wrote:

On 20/03/2017 16:24, Iain Churches wrote:

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On 3/20/17 2:35 AM, Iain Churches wrote:

Russian composer Serge Rachmaninov wrtote: "I took only two
important things with me to America, my wife Natalja and my
precious Bluthner piano".

Debussy also owned a Bluthner.

It does have a very distinctive sound, which lends
itself well to the music of the late romantic period.

Eiron mentioned the Aliquot system where a fourth string,
not struck by the hammer is added to the higher octaves.

I wonder what the Americans thought when Rachmaninov
took his Bluthner to the USA in 1918. They had their own
American piano sound with the Baldwin.

Don't know about their pianos but they made some damn fine locomotives.

Don't forget that Steinway started in New York.
But the main requirement for US pianos is how they look when dropped on
the sidewalk from a great height. Not forgetting ease of dismantling
so Harpo can play them.

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Eiron.

Steinway started in Germany about 30 years before they opened a factory in New York and anglicised their name from Steinweg to Steinway.
A little later they opened a factory in Hamburg, Germany while the founders eldest son who had remained in Germany formed Grotrian-Steinweg with a partner in Braunschweig. One American piano writer claims that Steinways made in Hamburg are superior to the ones made in NY. He was taken seriously enough that Steinway, NY changed their working practices. But still that writer says that despite having improved American Steinways are still slightly inferior to Hamburg Steinways, Grotrian-Steinwegs, B||sendorfer and Fazioli pianos.
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So this thread seems to have been going on for years, How peculiar.
Another thing of course is that many electric pianos claim to sound like
what every make of acoustic they decide on, but really they just sound like
a sample of that piano which is always hthe same. The subtle difference each time are not reproduced.
Brian
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On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 5:00:18 PM UTC, Eiron wrote:

On 20/03/2017 16:54, Graeme Wall wrote:

On 20/03/2017 16:24, Iain Churches wrote:

"MiNe109" <pianof...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 3/20/17 2:35 AM, Iain Churches wrote:

Russian composer Serge Rachmaninov wrtote: "I took only two
important things with me to America, my wife Natalja and my
precious Bluthner piano".

Debussy also owned a Bluthner.

It does have a very distinctive sound, which lends
itself well to the music of the late romantic period.

Eiron mentioned the Aliquot system where a fourth string,
not struck by the hammer is added to the higher octaves.

I wonder what the Americans thought when Rachmaninov
took his Bluthner to the USA in 1918. They had their own
American piano sound with the Baldwin.

Don't know about their pianos but they made some damn fine locomotives.

Don't forget that Steinway started in New York.
But the main requirement for US pianos is how they look when dropped on
the sidewalk from a great height. Not forgetting ease of dismantling
so Harpo can play them.

--
Eiron.

Steinway started in Germany about 30 years before they opened a factory in
New York and anglicised their name from Steinweg to Steinway.
A little later they opened a factory in Hamburg, Germany while the founders eldest son who had remained in Germany formed Grotrian-Steinweg with a
partner in Braunschweig. One American piano writer claims that Steinways
made in Hamburg are superior to the ones made in NY. He was taken seriously enough that Steinway, NY changed their working practices. But still that writer says that despite having improved American Steinways are still
slightly inferior to Hamburg Steinways, Grotrian-Steinwegs, B%sendorfer and Fazioli pianos.


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On 22 Jul 2022 at 08:55:11 BST, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

So this thread seems to have been going on for years, How peculiar.
Another thing of course is that many electric pianos claim to sound like what every make of acoustic they decide on, but really they just sound like a sample of that piano which is always hthe same. The subtle difference each time are not reproduced.
Brian

I was staying somewhere recently where one of the household is some sort of child piano master. While there he was playing away - hugely impressive sound and I thought it was some sort of grand piano in that part of the house (it
was actually a mezzanine above where we were). Amazed to see it was actually a compact Yamaha electronic piano, looked a bit like a little upright - about a grand's worth.

Not entirely what it goes to show, but it'd be safe to assume I'd not be too bothered about where the Steinway was made :-)
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Probably depends where the samples were recorded. I noticed some ears ago, that Denbies Vineyard in Dorking had a Yamaha piano, in white, but it also
was a player piano so when nobody was playing it a little box beside it
could play it instead, including moving the keys, or maybe it was Sparky?
Brian
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On 22 Jul 2022 at 08:55:11 BST, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

So this thread seems to have been going on for years, How peculiar.
Another thing of course is that many electric pianos claim to sound like
what every make of acoustic they decide on, but really they just sound
like
a sample of that piano which is always hthe same. The subtle difference
each
time are not reproduced.
Brian

I was staying somewhere recently where one of the household is some sort
of
child piano master. While there he was playing away - hugely impressive sound
and I thought it was some sort of grand piano in that part of the house
(it
was actually a mezzanine above where we were). Amazed to see it was
actually a
compact Yamaha electronic piano, looked a bit like a little upright -
about a
grand's worth.

Not entirely what it goes to show, but it'd be safe to assume I'd not be
too
bothered about where the Steinway was made :-)

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Cheers, Rob

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