On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train station, not railway station.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations:Title spelling corrected
They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that
indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train
station, not railway station.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:54223.html
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: >>> They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that
indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image6004
Title spelling corrected
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train
station, not railway station.
I think itrCOs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnrCOt >inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >built in Britain, either. ItrCOs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >all part of Translink.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 18:33:46 GMT
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> gabbled:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:54223.html
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: >>> They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>> indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image6004
Title spelling corrected
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train
station, not railway station.
I think itrCOs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnrCOt >inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >built in Britain, either. ItrCOs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >all part of Translink.
Given how long Ireland was part of the UK before railways were invented and NI
still is, its rather odd just how different irish rail is to GB rail, not least
the track gauge.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: >>> They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs thatTitle spelling corrected
indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train
station, not railway station.
I think itrCOs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnrCOt inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were built in Britain, either. ItrCOs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, all part of Translink.
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: >>> They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>> indicate stations, but rather thisTitle spelling corrected
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train
station, not railway station.
I think itrCOs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnrCOt inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were built in Britain, either. ItrCOs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: >>>> They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>>> indicate stations, but rather thisTitle spelling corrected
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train
station, not railway station.
I think itrCOs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnrCOt >> inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were
built in Britain, either. ItrCOs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >> all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: >>>>> They donAt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>>>> indicate stations, but rather thisTitle spelling corrected
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train >>>>> station, not railway station.
I think itAs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnAt
inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >>> built in Britain, either. ItAs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >>> all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
Irish railways have a long, complicated history, with many different >companies, just as in Great Britain. As in Britain, they used multiple >gauges, and even after many mergers, still had three different standard >gauges. In a carefully neutral decision, a common gauge was recommended
that was previously used by none of them.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Ireland
The first three railways in Ireland all had different gauges: the Dublin
and Kingstown Railway used 4 ft 8+1?2 in (1,435 mm) "Stephenson gauge"
(then the dominant gauge in England, Scotland, and Wales, but not yet the >legal standard in those countries or worldwide as it would later be); the >Ulster Railway used a very broad gauge of 6 ft 2 in (1,880 mm); and the >Dublin and Drogheda Railway used the less-broad 5 ft 2 in (1,575 mm) gauge. >Following complaints from the Ulster Railway, the Board of Trade
investigated the matter, and in 1843 recommended the use of 5 ft 3 in
(1,600 mm) and that compensation be paid to the Ulster Railway for the
costs incurred in changing to the new gauge.
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
I think itrCOs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnrCOt >> inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were
built in Britain, either. ItrCOs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >> all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:25:10 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations:Title spelling corrected
They don-At use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>>>>> indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train >>>>>> station, not railway station.
I think it-As all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasn-At >>>> inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >>>> built in Britain, either. It-As much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >>>> all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
Irish railways have a long, complicated history, with many different
companies, just as in Great Britain. As in Britain, they used multiple
gauges, and even after many mergers, still had three different standard
gauges. In a carefully neutral decision, a common gauge was recommended
that was previously used by none of them.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Ireland
The first three railways in Ireland all had different gauges: the Dublin
and Kingstown Railway used 4 ft 8+1?2 in (1,435 mm) "Stephenson gauge"
(then the dominant gauge in England, Scotland, and Wales, but not yet the
legal standard in those countries or worldwide as it would later be); the
Ulster Railway used a very broad gauge of 6 ft 2 in (1,880 mm); and the
Dublin and Drogheda Railway used the less-broad 5 ft 2 in (1,575 mm) gauge. >> Following complaints from the Ulster Railway, the Board of Trade
investigated the matter, and in 1843 recommended the use of 5 ft 3 in
(1,600 mm) and that compensation be paid to the Ulster Railway for the
costs incurred in changing to the new gauge.
With hindsight, British engineers came to accept that something wider
than 4ft 8.5in would have been better, thinking that could be seen in
Action in Africa and India.
Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
With hindsight, British engineers came to accept that something wider
than 4ft 8.5in would have been better, thinking that could be seen in
Action in Africa and India.
Not Africa. British South and East Africa used Cape gauge, even for trains with a much larger loading gauge than BritainrCOs. Much of the rest of Africa was metre gauge.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
With hindsight, British engineers came to accept that something wider
than 4ft 8.5in would have been better, thinking that could be seen in
Action in Africa and India.
Not Africa. British South and East Africa used Cape gauge, even for trains >> with a much larger loading gauge than BritainrCOs. Much of the rest of Africa
was metre gauge.
Some time ago I wondered why the secondary network of Railways constructed
in India at the height of British influence were built to Metre Gauge
rather than 3ft or the 3ft 6rCY the latter being widely used in Britains colonies. And though its use in Africa got the 3ft6rCY its Cape Gauge label even in Africa some British controlled lines were built to Metre Gauge,
ICBW I think that was partly because some equipment from India was
available.
Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:25:10 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations:Title spelling corrected
They don-At use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>>>>> indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train >>>>>> station, not railway station.
I think it-As all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasn-At
inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >>>> built in Britain, either. It-As much more linked to NI buses and coaches,
all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
Irish railways have a long, complicated history, with many different
companies, just as in Great Britain. As in Britain, they used multiple
gauges, and even after many mergers, still had three different standard
gauges. In a carefully neutral decision, a common gauge was recommended
that was previously used by none of them.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Ireland
The first three railways in Ireland all had different gauges: the Dublin >> and Kingstown Railway used 4 ft 8+1?2 in (1,435 mm) "Stephenson gauge"
(then the dominant gauge in England, Scotland, and Wales, but not yet the >> legal standard in those countries or worldwide as it would later be); the >> Ulster Railway used a very broad gauge of 6 ft 2 in (1,880 mm); and the
Dublin and Drogheda Railway used the less-broad 5 ft 2 in (1,575 mm) gauge.
Following complaints from the Ulster Railway, the Board of Trade
investigated the matter, and in 1843 recommended the use of 5 ft 3 in
(1,600 mm) and that compensation be paid to the Ulster Railway for the
costs incurred in changing to the new gauge.
With hindsight, British engineers came to accept that something wider
than 4ft 8.5in would have been better, thinking that could be seen in Action in Africa and India.
Not Africa. British South and East Africa used Cape gauge, even for trains with a much larger loading gauge than BritainrCOs.
Much of the rest of Africa
was metre gauge.
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:25:10 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations:Title spelling corrected
They don-At use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>>>> indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train >>>>> station, not railway station.
I think it-As all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasn-At >>> inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >>> built in Britain, either. It-As much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >>> all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
Irish railways have a long, complicated history, with many different >companies, just as in Great Britain. As in Britain, they used multiple >gauges, and even after many mergers, still had three different standard >gauges. In a carefully neutral decision, a common gauge was recommended >that was previously used by none of them.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Ireland
The first three railways in Ireland all had different gauges: the Dublin >and Kingstown Railway used 4 ft 8+1?2 in (1,435 mm) "Stephenson gauge" >(then the dominant gauge in England, Scotland, and Wales, but not yet the >legal standard in those countries or worldwide as it would later be); the >Ulster Railway used a very broad gauge of 6 ft 2 in (1,880 mm); and the >Dublin and Drogheda Railway used the less-broad 5 ft 2 in (1,575 mm) gauge. >Following complaints from the Ulster Railway, the Board of Trade >investigated the matter, and in 1843 recommended the use of 5 ft 3 in >(1,600 mm) and that compensation be paid to the Ulster Railway for the >costs incurred in changing to the new gauge.
With hindsight, British engineers came to accept that something wider
than 4ft 8.5in would have been better, thinking that could be seen in
Action in Africa and India.
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations: >>>>> They donrCOt use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>>>> indicate stations, but rather thisTitle spelling corrected
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train >>>>> station, not railway station.
I think itrCOs all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasnrCOt >>> inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >>> built in Britain, either. ItrCOs much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >>> all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
Irish railways have a long, complicated history, with many different companies, just as in Great Britain. As in Britain, they used multiple gauges, and even after many mergers, still had three different standard gauges. In a carefully neutral decision, a common gauge was recommended
that was previously used by none of them.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Ireland
The first three railways in Ireland all had different gauges: the Dublin
and Kingstown Railway used 4 ft 8+1rUa2 in (1,435 mm) "Stephenson gauge" (then the dominant gauge in England, Scotland, and Wales, but not yet the legal standard in those countries or worldwide as it would later be); the Ulster Railway used a very broad gauge of 6 ft 2 in (1,880 mm); and the Dublin and Drogheda Railway used the less-broad 5 ft 2 in (1,575 mm) gauge. Following complaints from the Ulster Railway, the Board of Trade
investigated the matter, and in 1843 recommended the use of 5 ft 3 in
(1,600 mm) and that compensation be paid to the Ulster Railway for the
costs incurred in changing to the new gauge.
Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:25:10 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 19:33, Recliner wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
On a trip to NI for the first time. Just some minor railway observations:Title spelling corrected
They don-At use the standard GB double arrow symbol on road signs that >>>>>>> indicate stations, but rather this
https://www.alamy.com/adelaide-train-station-belfast-northern-ireland-image600454223.html
A few small stations I noticed from the road were called <name> train >>>>>>> station, not railway station.
I think it-As all evidence that NI Rail was never part of BR, and hasn-At >>>>> inherited any BR styling or terminology. None of its current trains were >>>>> built in Britain, either. It-As much more linked to NI buses and coaches, >>>>> all part of Translink.
Although historically it was part of the LMS
Irish railways have a long, complicated history, with many different
companies, just as in Great Britain. As in Britain, they used multiple
gauges, and even after many mergers, still had three different standard
gauges. In a carefully neutral decision, a common gauge was recommended
that was previously used by none of them.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Ireland >>>
The first three railways in Ireland all had different gauges: the Dublin >>> and Kingstown Railway used 4 ft 8+1?2 in (1,435 mm) "Stephenson gauge"
(then the dominant gauge in England, Scotland, and Wales, but not yet the >>> legal standard in those countries or worldwide as it would later be); the >>> Ulster Railway used a very broad gauge of 6 ft 2 in (1,880 mm); and the
Dublin and Drogheda Railway used the less-broad 5 ft 2 in (1,575 mm) gauge. >>> Following complaints from the Ulster Railway, the Board of Trade
investigated the matter, and in 1843 recommended the use of 5 ft 3 in
(1,600 mm) and that compensation be paid to the Ulster Railway for the
costs incurred in changing to the new gauge.
With hindsight, British engineers came to accept that something wider
than 4ft 8.5in would have been better, thinking that could be seen in
Action in Africa and India.
Not Africa. British South and East Africa used Cape gauge, even for trains with a much larger loading gauge than BritainrCOs. Much of the rest of Africa was metre gauge.
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