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Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK? I think it's a minefield.
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In message <115etlu$3tppv$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:31:25 on Tue, 11 Aug
2026, Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> remarked:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK? I think it's a minefield.

I use trainsplit.com
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Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK? I think it's a minefield.

I see that Roland has already recommended trainsplit.com, but nationalrail.co.uk also gives all the through fares it can, including
cheaper advance tickets. All the (major?) train company web sites also
offer all companiesrCO fares, AFAICT.

Sam
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In message <115fgn6$4gsg$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:56:22 on Tue, 11 Aug
2026, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:

Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK? I think it's a minefield.

I see that Roland has already recommended trainsplit.com, but >nationalrail.co.uk also gives all the through fares it can, including
cheaper advance tickets. All the (major?) train company web sites also
offer all companiesrCO fares, AFAICT.

I think all sites selling tickets have to offer all tickets, but some
have much less easy-to-use search engines.
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Roland Perry
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On 11/08/2026 17:36, Roland Perry wrote:

In message <115fgn6$4gsg$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:56:22 on Tue, 11 Aug
2026, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:

Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK?-a I think it's a minefield.

I see that Roland has already recommended trainsplit.com, but
nationalrail.co.uk also gives all the through fares it can, including
cheaper advance tickets.-a All the (major?) train company web sites also
offer all companiesrCO fares, AFAICT.

I think all sites selling tickets have to offer all tickets, but some
have much less easy-to-use search engines.

Hence me asking. I don't find Greater Anglia that easy for searching.
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In message <115h4aq$jfbk$1@dont-email.me>, at 07:37:13 on Wed, 12 Aug
2026, Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> remarked:

On 11/08/2026 17:36, Roland Perry wrote:

In message <115fgn6$4gsg$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:56:22 on Tue, 11 Aug >>2026, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:

Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK?-a I think it's a minefield.

I see that Roland has already recommended trainsplit.com, but
nationalrail.co.uk also gives all the through fares it can, including
cheaper advance tickets.-a All the (major?) train company web sites also >>> offer all companiesrCO fares, AFAICT.

I think all sites selling tickets have to offer all tickets, but
some have much less easy-to-use search engines.

Hence me asking. I don't find Greater Anglia that easy for searching.

Most of the major TOC sites are pants. And they secretly guide you
towards the tickets they want to sell, not the ones you want to buy.
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Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> posted:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares

Most of them should be advance fares.

Regards, ULF
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On 12/08/2026 07:37, Saxman wrote:

On 11/08/2026 17:36, Roland Perry wrote:

In message <115fgn6$4gsg$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:56:22 on Tue, 11 Aug
2026, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:

Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK?-a I think it's a minefield.

I see that Roland has already recommended trainsplit.com, but
nationalrail.co.uk also gives all the through fares it can, including
cheaper advance tickets.-a All the (major?) train company web sites also >>> offer all companiesrCO fares, AFAICT.

ove
I think all sites selling tickets have to offer all tickets, but some
have much less easy-to-use search engines.

Hence me asking.-a I don't find Greater Anglia that easy for searching.over

My understanding is that only ToC ticket offices are required to offer impartial ticketing.

I agree with Roland that trainsplit (or similar) provides the cheapest
overall fares. The different split sites can provide different routing
and, sometimes, slightly different fares.
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In message <115h8p6$kre8$1@dont-email.me>, at 08:53:09 on Wed, 12 Aug
2026, Martin <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> remarked:

On 12/08/2026 07:37, Saxman wrote:

On 11/08/2026 17:36, Roland Perry wrote:

In message <115fgn6$4gsg$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:56:22 on Tue, 11
Aug 2026, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:

Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone recommend an app of means/advice of seeking out advanced
fares and offers in the UK?-a I think it's a minefield.

I see that Roland has already recommended trainsplit.com, but
nationalrail.co.uk also gives all the through fares it can, including
cheaper advance tickets.-a All the (major?) train company web sites also >>>> offer all companiesrCO fares, AFAICT.

ove
I think all sites selling tickets have to offer all tickets, but
some have much less easy-to-use search engines.

Hence me asking.-a I don't find Greater Anglia that easy for searching.over

My understanding is that only ToC ticket offices are required to offer >impartial ticketing.

That's right, convenient they are closing many of those down, isn't it!

The impartial ticketing requirement doesn't apply to TVMs or tickets
sold on-the-train.

I agree with Roland that trainsplit (or similar) provides the cheapest >overall fares. The different split sites can provide different routing
and, sometimes, slightly different fares.

There's three kinds of split:

1) Picking stations where the pence-per-mile changes gear due to being
far enough away from major metropolitan areas.

2) Different routing than absolutely direct. For example London to
Nottingham via Grantham instead of the currently beleaguered EMR.
A subset is using cheaper TOCs, like Hull trains instead of LNER.

3) Splitting at stations passed after off-peak fares become valid, when
starting the journey during Peak time.

It's also possible to get very cheap Advance fares by taking byzantine "TOC+connections" routes. I think the most I ever achieved was three
changes of train [Nottingham to Plymouth, via Leicester, Birmingham and Reading for about -u5], with very little of the trip on the "TOC" in
question.
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In message <kd7SDnK6UEfqFAeg@perry.uk>, at 11:04:42 on Wed, 12 Aug 2026, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:

It's also possible to get very cheap Advance fares by taking byzantine >"TOC+connections" routes. I think the most I ever achieved was three
changes of train [Nottingham to Plymouth, via Leicester, Birmingham and >Reading for about u5], with very little of the trip on the "TOC" in >question.

Another I did was Glasgow to Nottingham, changing at Carlise, going via Appleby, and changing again at Leeds. That was about u20.
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On 12/08/2026 11:04, Roland Perry wrote:

byzantine "TOC+connections" routes

Do you have a link or info please?
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In message <115ib2s$10jft$1@dont-email.me>, at 18:38:36 on Wed, 12 Aug
2026, Saxman <john.h.williams2removethis@gmail.com> remarked:

On 12/08/2026 11:04, Roland Perry wrote:

byzantine "TOC+connections" routes

Do you have a link or info please?

brfares.com, try Cambridge to Blackpool North, and you'll see lots of
tickets marked "AWC and Connections".

Which means you'll get an Avanti seat reservation from Euston to
Preston, but can make your own way down to Euston and onwards from
Preston, on any reasonable local connecting services.
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