Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which
has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which
has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
In message <1786262791-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 08:06:31 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which
has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
No, it was the 09:22 from Brighton (which was due at Gatwick 09:52).
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1786262791-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 08:06:31 on Sun, 9 Aug
2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which >>>> has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
No, it was the 09:22 from Brighton (which was due at Gatwick 09:52).
Appears to have originated from Three Bridges 1L.
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1786262791-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 08:06:31 on Sun, 9 Aug
2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which >>>>> has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
No, it was the 09:22 from Brighton (which was due at Gatwick 09:52).
Appears to have originated from Three Bridges 1L.
ThererCOs a 1022 to Cambridge from Brighton apparently running on time. An >hourrCOs delay is not exactly the end of the world.
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it >should, there's a big delay-repay due.
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it
should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone know
is seriously thinking about buying a car.
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026, >Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it >>should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone
know is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026,
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it
should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone know
is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Can you reasonably do Brighton to Cambridge without going via the M25 and
the Dartford Crossing? The latter has always held me up going north. And I >used the M11 north from Stansted the other day and that was grim.
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which
has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Of course, it was completely and utterly predictable, round of applause
for Thameslink!!
In message <1159hu7$27dcp$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:40:23 on Sun, 9 Aug
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1786262791-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 08:06:31 on Sun, 9 Aug >>> 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which >>>>> has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
No, it was the 09:22 from Brighton (which was due at Gatwick 09:52).
First train of the day.
Appears to have originated from Three Bridges 1L.
ThererCOs a 1022 to Cambridge from Brighton apparently running on time. An >hourrCOs delay is not exactly the end of the world.
Plan B's train also cancelled (from Kings Cross).
If people are arriving for lunch, then an hour late can sometimes be significant (especially if a table has been booked, other guests who
live locally invited). Some restaurants get quite cross if you arrive
more then 15 minutes late for a booking, especially for something like Sunday lunch.
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it should, there's a big delay-repay due.
In message <l$jyLZPcKHeqFAk7@perry.uk>, at 13:29:16 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026, >Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it >>should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone
know is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Having arrived, they confirmed they've bought a car, and it arrives next week.
Your friend went all the way from Brighton?
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it
should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone
know is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Having arrived, they confirmed they've bought a car, and it arrives next
week.
Ordered by phone from Brighton station?
In message <1786343088-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 06:24:48 on Mon, 10 Aug >2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Your friend went all the way from Brighton?
Came all the way from Brighton, on a much-lauded direct service, which >turned out to be (once again) over-promised and under-delivered.
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 08:13:18 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <1786343088-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 06:24:48 on Mon, 10 Aug >2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Your friend went all the way from Brighton?
Came all the way from Brighton, on a much-lauded direct service, which >turned out to be (once again) over-promised and under-delivered.
It's a convenient, direct service when it runs,
but in a train designed for shorter journeys (hard seats, no tables,
etc).
In message <1159hu7$27dcp$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:40:23 on Sun, 9 Aug
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1786262791-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 08:06:31 on Sun, 9 Aug >>> 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which >>>>> has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
No, it was the 09:22 from Brighton (which was due at Gatwick 09:52).
First train of the day.
Appears to have originated from Three Bridges 1L.
ThererCOs a 1022 to Cambridge from Brighton apparently running on time. An >hourrCOs delay is not exactly the end of the world.
Plan B's train also cancelled (from Kings Cross).
If people are arriving for lunch, then an hour late can sometimes be significant (especially if a table has been booked, other guests who
live locally invited). Some restaurants get quite cross if you arrive
more then 15 minutes late for a booking, especially for something like Sunday lunch.
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1159hu7$27dcp$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:40:23 on Sun, 9 Aug
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1786262791-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 08:06:31 on Sun, 9 Aug >>>>> 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which >>>>>>> has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
No, it was the 09:22 from Brighton (which was due at Gatwick 09:52).
First train of the day.
Appears to have originated from Three Bridges 1L.
ThererCOs a 1022 to Cambridge from Brighton apparently running on time. An >>> hourrCOs delay is not exactly the end of the world.
Plan B's train also cancelled (from Kings Cross).
If people are arriving for lunch, then an hour late can sometimes be
significant (especially if a table has been booked, other guests who
live locally invited). Some restaurants get quite cross if you arrive
more then 15 minutes late for a booking, especially for something like
Sunday lunch.
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it
should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Late-ending possession?
https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/engineering-works/three-bridges-and-brighton-20260808/
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1159hu7$27dcp$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:40:23 on Sun, 9 Aug
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
In message <1786262791-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 08:06:31 on Sun, 9 Aug >>>>>> 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which
has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Hm.
https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/W45747/2026-08-09
started 7L but from Gatwick airport, not Brighton.
No, it was the 09:22 from Brighton (which was due at Gatwick 09:52).
First train of the day.
Appears to have originated from Three Bridges 1L.
ThererCOs a 1022 to Cambridge from Brighton apparently running on time. An >>>> hourrCOs delay is not exactly the end of the world.
Plan B's train also cancelled (from Kings Cross).
If people are arriving for lunch, then an hour late can sometimes be
significant (especially if a table has been booked, other guests who
live locally invited). Some restaurants get quite cross if you arrive
more then 15 minutes late for a booking, especially for something like
Sunday lunch.
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it
should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Late-ending possession?
https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/engineering-works/three-bridges-and-brig >>hton-20260808/
Roland has two competing viewpoints. HerCOs previously objected to levels of >subsidy,
and really doesnrCOt seem to like the levels of Swiss railway subsidy.
But to provide the fault free running of the railway which he is also >demanding a vast amount more subsidy would be required. Both the Swiss
and the British get the railway quality that they pay for.
Found
Verkehrsmittel wurde ersetzt durch
Bus 13518
So. 9. Aug. 2026
07:11
Brighton
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026,
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it
should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone know
is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Can you reasonably do Brighton to Cambridge without going via the M25 and
the Dartford Crossing? The latter has always held me up going north. And I >used the M11 north from Stansted the other day and that was grim.
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which
has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Of course, it was completely and utterly predictable, round of applause
for Thameslink!!
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 08:36:43 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. WhichThey seem to have been on regular cancellations for the last month or
has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.
Of course, it was completely and utterly predictable, round of applause
for Thameslink!!
so. Trains from Rainham on a Saturday evening are down to hourly
instead of half-hourly and the Peterborough train preceding mine to
Bedford on Saturday night is usually cancelled.
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 08:36:43 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:
Have a friend due to be arriving for lunch on a Thameslink train. Which >>> has been cancelled. Trying to work out an alternative routing.They seem to have been on regular cancellations for the last month or
Of course, it was completely and utterly predictable, round of applause >>> for Thameslink!!
so. Trains from Rainham on a Saturday evening are down to hourly
instead of half-hourly and the Peterborough train preceding mine to
Bedford on Saturday night is usually cancelled.
I thought the summer timetable reductions were official, on both TL and
AWC?
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 12:38:31 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:Maybe in the early hours when there is a good chance of the M25 being
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026,
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it
should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone know >>> is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Can you reasonably do Brighton to Cambridge without going via the M25 and >>the Dartford Crossing? The latter has always held me up going north. And I >>used the M11 north from Stansted the other day and that was grim.
closed anyway.
In message <j8hr7ltta9gl3dcbuvum1ubul393u4ro4v@4ax.com>, at 14:23:44 on
Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com>
remarked:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 12:38:31 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:Maybe in the early hours when there is a good chance of the M25 being >closed anyway.
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026, >>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it >>>> should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone know >>> is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Can you reasonably do Brighton to Cambridge without going via the M25 and >>the Dartford Crossing? The latter has always held me up going north. And I >>used the M11 north from Stansted the other day and that was grim.
Can't parse that. Are you saying it's possible in the early hours to not
use the M25 and Dartford.
In message <j8hr7ltta9gl3dcbuvum1ubul393u4ro4v@4ax.com>, at 14:23:44 on
Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com>
remarked:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 12:38:31 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:Maybe in the early hours when there is a good chance of the M25 being >>closed anyway.
In message <m8cC7iLgHFeqFAlF@perry.uk>, at 11:09:36 on Sun, 9 Aug 2026, >>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
The good news is, if the third train gets in just 25 seconds after it >>>>> should, there's a big delay-repay due.
Six minutes late!
So that's four and a half hours from Brighton to Cambridge, someone know >>>> is seriously thinking about buying a car.
Can you reasonably do Brighton to Cambridge without going via the M25 and >>>the Dartford Crossing? The latter has always held me up going north. And I >>>used the M11 north from Stansted the other day and that was grim.
Can't parse that. Are you saying it's possible in the early hours to not
use the M25 and Dartford. In which case what route are you suggesting?
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