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  • Re: Cairngorn Railway - The funicular train comes off its tracks

    From Ulf Kutzner@user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid to uk.railway on Wed May 13 14:22:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway


    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    boltar@caprica.universe posted:

    On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 09:46:12 GMT
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> gabbled:
    <boltar@caprica.universe> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 15:32:24 GMT
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> gabbled:
    <boltar@caprica.universe> wrote:
    By couldn't I assume you mean it would be more complex and would require
    some redesign of the points and extra set of rollers for the 2nd cable.

    Look more closely at the angles of the pulleys.

    What about them? You have one cable on the left , one on the right.

    And what happens at the points?

    Why would the points be a problem?

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Nerobergbahn?uselang=de#/media/File:2012.09.24.114339_Abfahrt_Nerobergbahn_Neroberg_Wiesbaden.jpg


    That funicular doesnrCOt have points or a single track section. In effect, itrCOs a double-track line, but with a shared rail. ItrCOs certainly an unusual
    arrangement: simpler than a conventional single-track funicular

    So, have a look at those ones with points: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kirchberg-Pfaffenthal_funicular#/media/File:Luxembourg,_10-2017_Funiculaire_(06).jpg
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  • From Ulf Kutzner@user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid to uk.railway on Wed May 13 14:24:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway


    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    On 27 Apr 2026 16:11:53 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:


    Just to amuse myself, I was wondering what technology would be used to
    meet the exact same business requirement as this
    oddball funicular, if being built for the first time today. I suspect it >> would most probably be gondolas or maybe a
    cable car?


    I was musing if you could replace ropes on an inclined railway with the >linear motor that was once put forward as a device to power high speed >guided transport.

    It still is rCo the various maglev trains use them.

    Perhaps you could replicate the balancing effect of a true funicular by >using one of the types that can regenerate so the descending car can feed >the ascending one.

    It's probably not safe enough, and way too expensive.

    Braking would likely need a rail clamp type or an eddy current system as >used by some rail brakes on trams.

    I noticed that the almost brand-new (2017) Luxembourg Pfaffenthal-Kirchberg funicular

    Added pics for that one at the points sub-thread.
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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Wed May 13 15:35:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Wed, 13 May 2026 14:22:35 GMT, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    boltar@caprica.universe posted:

    On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 09:46:12 GMT
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> gabbled:
    <boltar@caprica.universe> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 15:32:24 GMT
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> gabbled:
    <boltar@caprica.universe> wrote:
    By couldn't I assume you mean it would be more complex and would require
    some redesign of the points and extra set of rollers for the 2nd cable.

    Look more closely at the angles of the pulleys.

    What about them? You have one cable on the left , one on the right.

    And what happens at the points?

    Why would the points be a problem?

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Nerobergbahn?uselang=de#/media/File:2012.09.24.114339_Abfahrt_Nerobergbahn_Neroberg_Wiesbaden.jpg


    That funicular doesnrCOt have points or a single track section. In effect, >> itrCOs a double-track line, but with a shared rail. ItrCOs certainly an unusual
    arrangement: simpler than a conventional single-track funicular

    So, have a look at those ones with points: >https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kirchberg-Pfaffenthal_funicular#/media/File:Luxembourg,_10-2017_Funiculaire_(06).jpg

    I've already posted my pictures from that line. It's a pair of normal, conventional, single track funiculars, with the
    same basic design as has been the norm since the late 19th century.
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  • From Anna Noyd-Dryver@anna@noyd-dryver.com to uk.railway on Fri May 15 16:33:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    boltar@caprica.universe posted:

    On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 09:46:12 GMT
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> gabbled:
    <boltar@caprica.universe> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 15:32:24 GMT
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> gabbled:
    <boltar@caprica.universe> wrote:
    By couldn't I assume you mean it would be more complex and would require
    some redesign of the points and extra set of rollers for the 2nd cable.

    Look more closely at the angles of the pulleys.

    What about them? You have one cable on the left , one on the right. >>>>>
    And what happens at the points?

    Why would the points be a problem?

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Nerobergbahn?uselang=de#/media/File:2012.09.24.114339_Abfahrt_Nerobergbahn_Neroberg_Wiesbaden.jpg


    That funicular doesnrCOt have points or a single track section. In effect, >> itrCOs a double-track line, but with a shared rail. ItrCOs certainly an unusual
    arrangement: simpler than a conventional single-track funicular

    So, have a look at those ones with points: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kirchberg-Pfaffenthal_funicular#/media/File:Luxembourg,_10-2017_Funiculaire_(06).jpg


    That's a pair of very conventional funiculars, next to one another. They
    have one cable per car, and Abt switches with no moving parts.

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