Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year,
initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year.
I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor.
I think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning
the Knowledge. They're being driven round
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level
4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the
initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around empty clogging up the traffic.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year, >>>>> initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year.
I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor.
I think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning >>> the Knowledge. They're being driven round
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level >>> 4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the
initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the >> sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around
empty clogging up the traffic.
Looks like they make the same mistake of driving into deep water that human drivers do:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xo
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote: >>>>
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year, >>>>>> initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year. >>>>>I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor.
I think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning >>>> the Knowledge. They're being driven round
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level >>>> 4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the
initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the >>> sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around >>> empty clogging up the traffic.
Looks like they make the same mistake of driving into deep water that human >> drivers do:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xo
rCLA spokesperson from Waymo, which is owned by Google's parent company >Apple, rCarCY
Did someone just leak the details of the worldrCOs most secret monopoly?
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote: >>>>
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year, >>>>>> initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year. >>>>>I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor.
I think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning >>>> the Knowledge. They're being driven round
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level >>>> 4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the
initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the >>> sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around >>> empty clogging up the traffic.
Looks like they make the same mistake of driving into deep water that human >> drivers do:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xo
rCLA spokesperson from Waymo, which is owned by Google's parent company Apple, rCarCY
Did someone just leak the details of the worldrCOs most secret monopoly?
On 13/05/2026 14:55, Sam Wilson wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote: >>>>>
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, ReclinerI think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning >>>>> the Knowledge. They're being driven round
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year, >>>>>>> initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year. >>>>>>I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor. >>>>>
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level >>>>> 4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the
initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the
sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around >>>> empty clogging up the traffic.
Looks like they make the same mistake of driving into deep water that human >>> drivers do:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xo
rCLA spokesperson from Waymo, which is owned by Google's parent company
Apple, rCarCY
Did someone just leak the details of the worldrCOs most secret monopoly?
It's quietly been changed to Alphabet before anyone else finds out.
On Wed, 13 May 2026 15:13:53 +0100, Certes <Certes@example.org> wrote:
On 13/05/2026 14:55, Sam Wilson wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote: >>>>>>
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, ReclinerI think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning >>>>>> the Knowledge. They're being driven round
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year, >>>>>>>> initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year. >>>>>>>I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor. >>>>>>
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level >>>>>> 4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the >>>>>> initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the
sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around >>>>> empty clogging up the traffic.
Looks like they make the same mistake of driving into deep water that human
drivers do:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xo
rCLA spokesperson from Waymo, which is owned by Google's parent company
Apple, rCarCY
Did someone just leak the details of the worldrCOs most secret monopoly?
It's quietly been changed to Alphabet before anyone else finds out.
I'm still seeing Apple in the version I can see online.
On 13/05/2026 15:20, Recliner wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2026 15:13:53 +0100, Certes <Certes@example.org> wrote:
On 13/05/2026 14:55, Sam Wilson wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:It's quietly been changed to Alphabet before anyone else finds out.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote: >>>>>>>
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, ReclinerI think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year, >>>>>>>>> initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year. >>>>>>>>I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor. >>>>>>>
the Knowledge. They're being driven round
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level
4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the >>>>>>> initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the
sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around >>>>>> empty clogging up the traffic.
Looks like they make the same mistake of driving into deep water that human
drivers do:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xo
rCLA spokesperson from Waymo, which is owned by Google's parent company >>>> Apple, rCarCY
Did someone just leak the details of the worldrCOs most secret monopoly? >>>
I'm still seeing Apple in the version I can see online.
Oddly, it's back to Apple for me too now. Perhaps they (or our ISPs)
cache the page on multiple servers and an update has only reached some
of them.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 13:36:14 +0100, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <K7sAR.38834$li2.4043@fx17.ams1>, Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> writes
Baidu, Waymo and Wayve cars will all be on test in London this year, >>>>> initially with human supervisors, but possibly without by next year.
I saw a Waymo on Marylebone Road last month. With human supervisor.
I think at the moment they are doing the robotaxi equivalent of learning >>> the Knowledge. They're being driven round
London to complete the detailed mapping of the streets, needed for Level >>> 4 deployment. I assume their starting point is
the Street View image database, which will have been built into the
initial Waymo London database, then extended by
detailed mapping by the cars themselves. So the cars will be driven manually initially.
They are being sabotaged in the US by people sticking masking tape over the >> sensors. One objection to them seems to be that they often cruise around
empty clogging up the traffic.
Looks like they make the same mistake of driving into deep water that human drivers do:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xoMore:
Self-driving cars lack common sense, admits industry boss
On 14/05/2026 22:20, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2011dl4xoMore:
Self-driving cars lack common sense, admits industry boss
Like a lot of human drivers.
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