• artificial intelligence is no substitute for real stupidity

    From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.rec.sheds,uk.people.silversurfers on Tue Apr 7 14:30:50 2026
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    you might find this extract from chatgpt slightly worrying, or it might confirm what you already know ...


    "


    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - could Donald Trump be impeached
    for war crimes right now ?


    Short answer: No, not in the way yourCOre thinking.

    HererCOs why:

    1. What impeachment actually is

    Impeachment in the U.S. is a political process, not a criminal one. ItrCOs defined in the Constitution and carried out by:

    The U.S. House of Representatives (brings charges, i.e., impeaches)
    The U.S. Senate (holds a trial and can remove from office)

    A president can be impeached for rCLtreason, bribery, or other high crimes
    and misdemeanors.rCY That phrase is broad and politicalrCoit doesnrCOt require a formal criminal conviction or even a specific crime.

    2. Could rCLwar crimesrCY be grounds for impeachment?

    In theory, yesrCoif Congress believed a president committed acts that
    amount to war crimes, they could treat that as a rCLhigh crimerCY and impeach.

    But:

    It would depend entirely on political will in Congress
    ThererCOs no automatic legal trigger from international law
    3. Why rCLright nowrCY doesnrCOt work

    Impeachment only applies to a current officeholder.

    Donald Trump is not currently president (as of now), so:

    He cannot be impeached at this moment
    Impeachment is about removing someone from office or barring them from
    future office
    4. What about actual war crimes charges?

    ThatrCOs a separate issue from impeachment:

    War crimes are handled under international law
    Potential venues could include bodies like the International Criminal Court

    However:

    The U.S. is not a member of the ICC
    Prosecuting a former U.S. president for war crimes would be extremely
    complex and unlikely in practice
    Bottom line
    Impeachment? Not possible right now (herCOs not in office)
    In principle? Congress could treat war crimes as impeachable
    Criminal accountability? That would be a completely different legal
    path, and much harder to pursue

    If you want, I can break down whether any U.S. presidents have ever
    faced accusations like this historicallyrCoitrCOs a pretty interesting topic.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - so who is the president of the USA ?

    As of now, the president of the United States is Joe Biden.

    He has been in office since January 20, 2021, after winning the 2020
    election.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - what is todays date ?

    TodayrCOs date is April 7, 2026.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - so how long has Joe Biden been the president ?

    Joe Biden was inaugurated on January 20, 2021.

    From then until April 7, 2026, he has been president for 5 years, 2
    months, and 18 days.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - that seems like a very long term
    of office ?

    YeahrCoit does sound long at first, but hererCOs the key point:

    In the U.S., a presidential term is 4 years, but a president can serve
    up to two terms (8 years total).

    Joe Biden:

    First term: Jan 2021 raA Jan 2025
    If he won reelection in 2024, his second term would run until January 2029

    So by April 2026, being a little over 5 years in office just means herCOs partway through a possible second termrConot unusually long by U.S. standards.

    For comparison:

    Barack Obama served 8 years
    George W. Bush served 8 years

    Only one president ever served more than that: Franklin D. Roosevelt (4 terms), which is why term limits were later introduced.

    If you want, I can explain how the 2024 election played out and why
    Biden is still in office now.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - when was the last US presidential election ?

    The most recent U.S. presidential election was held on November 5, 2024.

    That election determined who would serve the term from January 20, 2025
    to January 20, 2029, following the standard four-year cycle.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - and who won that election ?

    The winner of the 2024 U.S. presidential election was Donald Trump.

    He was elected to serve the term from January 20, 2025 to January 20,
    2029, making him the current president."







    make your own mind up :-\
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  • From John Williamson@johnwilliamson@btinternet.com to uk.rec.sheds,uk.people.silversurfers on Tue Apr 7 14:52:11 2026
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    On 07/04/2026 14:30, Abandoned Trolley wrote:


    you might find this extract from chatgpt slightly worrying, or it might confirm what you already know ...


    "


    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - could Donald Trump be impeached
    for war crimes right now ?


    Short answer: No, not in the way yourCOre thinking.

    HererCOs why:

    1. What impeachment actually is

    Impeachment in the U.S. is a political process, not a criminal one. ItrCOs defined in the Constitution and carried out by:

    The U.S. House of Representatives (brings charges, i.e., impeaches)
    The U.S. Senate (holds a trial and can remove from office)

    A president can be impeached for rCLtreason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.rCY That phrase is broad and politicalrCoit doesnrCOt require
    a formal criminal conviction or even a specific crime.

    2. Could rCLwar crimesrCY be grounds for impeachment?

    In theory, yesrCoif Congress believed a president committed acts that
    amount to war crimes, they could treat that as a rCLhigh crimerCY and impeach.

    But:

    It would depend entirely on political will in Congress
    ThererCOs no automatic legal trigger from international law
    3. Why rCLright nowrCY doesnrCOt work

    Impeachment only applies to a current officeholder.

    Donald Trump is not currently president (as of now), so:

    He cannot be impeached at this moment
    Impeachment is about removing someone from office or barring them from
    future office
    4. What about actual war crimes charges?

    ThatrCOs a separate issue from impeachment:

    War crimes are handled under international law
    Potential venues could include bodies like the International Criminal Court

    However:

    The U.S. is not a member of the ICC
    Prosecuting a former U.S. president for war crimes would be extremely
    complex and unlikely in practice
    Bottom line
    Impeachment? Not possible right now (herCOs not in office)
    In principle? Congress could treat war crimes as impeachable
    Criminal accountability? That would be a completely different legal
    path, and much harder to pursue

    If you want, I can break down whether any U.S. presidents have ever
    faced accusations like this historicallyrCoitrCOs a pretty interesting topic.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - so who is the president of the USA ?

    As of now, the president of the United States is Joe Biden.

    He has been in office since January 20, 2021, after winning the 2020 election.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - what is todays date ?

    TodayrCOs date is April 7, 2026.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - so how long has Joe Biden been the president ?

    Joe Biden was inaugurated on January 20, 2021.

    From then until April 7, 2026, he has been president for 5 years, 2
    months, and 18 days.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - that seems like a very long term
    of office ?

    YeahrCoit does sound long at first, but hererCOs the key point:

    In the U.S., a presidential term is 4 years, but a president can serve
    up to two terms (8 years total).

    Joe Biden:

    First term: Jan 2021 raA Jan 2025
    If he won reelection in 2024, his second term would run until January 2029

    So by April 2026, being a little over 5 years in office just means herCOs partway through a possible second termrConot unusually long by U.S. standards.

    For comparison:

    Barack Obama served 8 years
    George W. Bush served 8 years

    Only one president ever served more than that: Franklin D. Roosevelt (4 terms), which is why term limits were later introduced.

    If you want, I can explain how the 2024 election played out and why
    Biden is still in office now.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - when was the last US presidential election ?

    The most recent U.S. presidential election was held on November 5, 2024.

    That election determined who would serve the term from January 20, 2025
    to January 20, 2029, following the standard four-year cycle.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - and who won that election ?

    The winner of the 2024 U.S. presidential election was Donald Trump.

    He was elected to serve the term from January 20, 2025 to January 20,
    2029, making him the current president."







    make your own mind up :-\

    LOL!
    Did I miss his resignation? Or have the NRA finally realised why they
    have the second amendment?
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    Tciao for Now!

    John.
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  • From =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bri=2E?=@Brian@Derby.invalid to uk.people.silversurfers on Tue Apr 7 17:21:06 2026
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    Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    you might find this extract from chatgpt slightly worrying, or it might confirm what you already know ...

    Cross posted content removed.

    I've just used Copilot to assist with a corrupt browser settings
    problem and it's been very helpful.
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    https://www.BriMarg.co.uk
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  • From Indy Jess John@bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com to uk.rec.sheds,uk.people.silversurfers on Tue Apr 7 18:25:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    On 07/04/2026 14:30, Abandoned Trolley wrote:


    you might find this extract from chatgpt slightly worrying, or it might confirm what you already know ...


    "


    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - could Donald Trump be impeached
    for war crimes right now ?


    Short answer: No, not in the way yourCOre thinking.

    HererCOs why:

    1. What impeachment actually is

    Impeachment in the U.S. is a political process, not a criminal one. ItrCOs defined in the Constitution and carried out by:

    The U.S. House of Representatives (brings charges, i.e., impeaches)
    The U.S. Senate (holds a trial and can remove from office)

    A president can be impeached for rCLtreason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.rCY That phrase is broad and politicalrCoit doesnrCOt require
    a formal criminal conviction or even a specific crime.

    2. Could rCLwar crimesrCY be grounds for impeachment?

    In theory, yesrCoif Congress believed a president committed acts that
    amount to war crimes, they could treat that as a rCLhigh crimerCY and impeach.

    But:

    It would depend entirely on political will in Congress
    ThererCOs no automatic legal trigger from international law
    3. Why rCLright nowrCY doesnrCOt work

    Impeachment only applies to a current officeholder.

    Donald Trump is not currently president (as of now), so:

    He cannot be impeached at this moment
    Impeachment is about removing someone from office or barring them from future office
    4. What about actual war crimes charges?

    ThatrCOs a separate issue from impeachment:

    War crimes are handled under international law
    Potential venues could include bodies like the International Criminal Court

    However:

    The U.S. is not a member of the ICC
    Prosecuting a former U.S. president for war crimes would be extremely complex and unlikely in practice
    Bottom line
    Impeachment? Not possible right now (herCOs not in office)
    In principle? Congress could treat war crimes as impeachable
    Criminal accountability? That would be a completely different legal
    path, and much harder to pursue

    If you want, I can break down whether any U.S. presidents have ever
    faced accusations like this historicallyrCoitrCOs a pretty interesting topic.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - so who is the president of the USA ?

    As of now, the president of the United States is Joe Biden.

    He has been in office since January 20, 2021, after winning the 2020 election.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - what is todays date ?

    TodayrCOs date is April 7, 2026.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - so how long has Joe Biden been the president ?

    Joe Biden was inaugurated on January 20, 2021.

    From then until April 7, 2026, he has been president for 5 years, 2
    months, and 18 days.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - that seems like a very long term
    of office ?

    YeahrCoit does sound long at first, but hererCOs the key point:

    In the U.S., a presidential term is 4 years, but a president can serve
    up to two terms (8 years total).

    Joe Biden:

    First term: Jan 2021 raA Jan 2025
    If he won reelection in 2024, his second term would run until January 2029

    So by April 2026, being a little over 5 years in office just means herCOs partway through a possible second termrConot unusually long by U.S. standards.

    For comparison:

    Barack Obama served 8 years
    George W. Bush served 8 years

    Only one president ever served more than that: Franklin D. Roosevelt (4 terms), which is why term limits were later introduced.

    If you want, I can explain how the 2024 election played out and why
    Biden is still in office now.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - when was the last US presidential election ?

    The most recent U.S. presidential election was held on November 5, 2024.

    That election determined who would serve the term from January 20, 2025
    to January 20, 2029, following the standard four-year cycle.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - and who won that election ?

    The winner of the 2024 U.S. presidential election was Donald Trump.

    He was elected to serve the term from January 20, 2025 to January 20,
    2029, making him the current president."

    make your own mind up-a :-\

    I did do a bit of research into ChatGPT a while ago, because someone
    quoted a ChatGPT answer to me that I knew was wrong.

    The man who developed that AI package thought he was producing "an
    interesting toy" and subsequently issued a warning that the output may
    or may not be factual and it can't be used as a research tool. It was intended to be an intelligent imaginative application for people to chat
    to, not a fount of wisdom. He revealed that his design objective was to
    get his product widely used. To that end, he included a "Reward
    Process" through which ChatGPT would monitor each user's use of the
    package, and steer answers towards what the user would be happy to read,
    thus encouraging future use.

    The nonsense you quote above is ChatGPT trying to find a slant on your questions that you would approve of.

    There is also a case currently going through the courts where a
    solicitor quoted case law that ChatGPT had "found" and those references
    do not exist.

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  • From Richard Robinson@richard@qualmograph.org.uk to uk.rec.sheds,uk.people.silversurfers on Wed Apr 8 09:37:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    Indy Jess John said:
    On 07/04/2026 14:30, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    you might find this extract from chatgpt slightly worrying, or it might
    confirm what you already know ...

    I did do a bit of research into ChatGPT a while ago, because someone
    quoted a ChatGPT answer to me that I knew was wrong.

    The man who developed that AI package thought he was producing "an interesting toy" and subsequently issued a warning that the output may
    or may not be factual and it can't be used as a research tool. It was intended to be an intelligent imaginative application for people to chat
    to, not a fount of wisdom. He revealed that his design objective was to
    get his product widely used. To that end, he included a "Reward
    Process" through which ChatGPT would monitor each user's use of the
    package, and steer answers towards what the user would be happy to read, thus encouraging future use.

    The nonsense you quote above is ChatGPT trying to find a slant on your questions that you would approve of.

    There is also a case currently going through the courts where a
    solicitor quoted case law that ChatGPT had "found" and those references
    do not exist.

    Yes. I saw a comment somewhere that the more complex they get, the more bullshit they emanate. "Hallucinations" (AIs On LSD!!). Currently said
    to be running at ~30% of the output.

    But, of course, that might be AI-generated nonsense.
    --
    Richard Robinson
    "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

    My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
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  • From kat@littlelionne@hotmail.com to uk.rec.sheds,uk.people.silversurfers on Thu Apr 9 11:56:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    On 08/04/2026 10:37, Richard Robinson wrote:
    Indy Jess John said:
    On 07/04/2026 14:30, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    you might find this extract from chatgpt slightly worrying, or it might
    confirm what you already know ...

    I did do a bit of research into ChatGPT a while ago, because someone
    quoted a ChatGPT answer to me that I knew was wrong.

    The man who developed that AI package thought he was producing "an
    interesting toy" and subsequently issued a warning that the output may
    or may not be factual and it can't be used as a research tool. It was
    intended to be an intelligent imaginative application for people to chat
    to, not a fount of wisdom. He revealed that his design objective was to
    get his product widely used. To that end, he included a "Reward
    Process" through which ChatGPT would monitor each user's use of the
    package, and steer answers towards what the user would be happy to read,
    thus encouraging future use.

    The nonsense you quote above is ChatGPT trying to find a slant on your
    questions that you would approve of.

    There is also a case currently going through the courts where a
    solicitor quoted case law that ChatGPT had "found" and those references
    do not exist.

    Yes. I saw a comment somewhere that the more complex they get, the more bullshit they emanate. "Hallucinations" (AIs On LSD!!). Currently said
    to be running at ~30% of the output.

    But, of course, that might be AI-generated nonsense.



    Today I read that you must ask Ai a question, rather than seem to state your view - because if you do th elatter it wil simply agree with you. Questioning it might get a different answer!
    --
    kat
    >^..^<
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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.rec.sheds,uk.people.silversurfers on Thu Apr 9 17:23:42 2026
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    Today I read that you must ask Ai a question, rather than seem to state
    your view - because if you do th elatter it wil simply agree with you. Questioning it might get a different answer!



    "could Donald Trump be impeached for war crimes right now ? " is a question
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to uk.rec.sheds,uk.people.silversurfers on Thu Apr 9 18:23:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
    [...]
    Today I read that you must ask Ai a question, rather than seem to state your view - because if you do th elatter it wil simply agree with you. Questioning it might get a different answer!


    "could Donald Trump be impeached for war crimes right now ? " is a question


    Giggling is infectious... <https://youtube.com/shorts/SqHsb2cKydA>
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  • From =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bri=2E?=@Brian@Derby.invalid to uk.people.silversurfers on Fri Apr 10 09:09:38 2026
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    kat wrote:

    Today I read that you must ask Ai a question, rather than seem to state your view - because if you do th elatter it wil simply agree with you. Questioning
    it might get a different answer!

    kat, not sure whether you're aware that you're crossposting and
    receiving replies from uk.rec.sheds
    --
    Bri.
    (Windows 11 Desktop)
    https://www.BriMarg.co.uk
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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.people.silversurfers on Fri Apr 10 09:33:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    On 10/04/2026 09:09, Bri. wrote:
    kat wrote:

    Today I read that you must ask Ai a question, rather than seem to state your >> view - because if you do th elatter it wil simply agree with you. Questioning
    it might get a different answer!

    kat, not sure whether you're aware that you're crossposting and
    receiving replies from uk.rec.sheds


    The OP was cross posted
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  • From =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bri=2E?=@Brian@Derby.invalid to uk.people.silversurfers on Fri Apr 10 10:05:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    kat, not sure whether you're aware that you're crossposting and
    receiving replies from uk.rec.sheds

    The OP was cross posted

    Yes, I know, but you didn't state that when you made the OP and I'm
    guessing that some regulars here didn't spot that.
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  • From kat@littlelionne@hotmail.com to uk.people.silversurfers on Fri Apr 10 11:52:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    On 10/04/2026 09:09, Bri. wrote:
    kat wrote:

    Today I read that you must ask Ai a question, rather than seem to state your >> view - because if you do th elatter it wil simply agree with you. Questioning
    it might get a different answer!

    kat, not sure whether you're aware that you're crossposting and
    receiving replies from uk.rec.sheds

    I didn't notice, but I doubt it matters to much in this instance. Thank you for
    pointing it out.
    --
    kat
    >^..^<
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  • From =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bri=2E?=@Brian@Derby.invalid to uk.people.silversurfers on Fri Apr 10 12:35:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    kat wrote:
    On 10/04/2026 09:09, Bri. wrote:

    kat, not sure whether you're aware that you're crossposting and
    receiving replies from uk.rec.sheds

    I didn't notice, but I doubt it matters to much in this instance. Thank you for
    pointing it out.

    It doesn't matter at all, kat, so long as you're comfortable with
    that. I just thought you ought to know.
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    https://www.BriMarg.co.uk
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  • From kat@littlelionne@hotmail.com to uk.people.silversurfers on Sat Apr 11 12:14:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.people.silversurfers

    On 10/04/2026 12:35, Bri. wrote:
    kat wrote:
    On 10/04/2026 09:09, Bri. wrote:

    kat, not sure whether you're aware that you're crossposting and
    receiving replies from uk.rec.sheds

    I didn't notice, but I doubt it matters to much in this instance. Thank you for
    pointing it out.

    It doesn't matter at all, kat, so long as you're comfortable with
    that. I just thought you ought to know.

    :-)
    --
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    >^..^<
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