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"The Todal" <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in message news:nd486vFm2r1U1@mid.individual.net...

Yesterday there was a discussion on Newsnight in which the BBC presenter
was discussing Abbott's readmission to the Party with Phil Rosenberg
(Board of Jewish Deputies), Lara Brown fromt the right-wing Spectator
and Chris Curtis of the Labour Party. You can see the discussion here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002zkd4/newsnight-abbott-back-in-the-labour-party

[...]

And nobody had the intelligence or courtesy to question whether Abbott is actually antisemitic. She certainly isn't antisemitic, even if her letters to newspapers are sometimes clumsily expressed

And her experience is actually an example of a powerful Jewish lobby bullying
an elderly black woman who dares to suggest that black people experience more discrimination and prejudice than Jews.

Which of course they do. Because black and Asian people are immediately identifiable from even 100 yards away. Whereas with Jewish people, unless they're famous and you can look them up on the Internet its often impossible
to tell if they're Jewish at all.

I mean, you only have to look at the legal profession to see how many Jews have become eminent solicitors and barristers and how few black people have.

That's more a cultural thing; as Jewish people are generally associated with written culture and learning; unlike cockneys, black people, or working class people generally. And unlike say aspiring middle class people originating
from the Indian Sub Continent



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"billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com> wrote in message news:114k9kh$3ejmf$1@dont-email.me...

"The Todal" <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in message news:nd486vFm2r1U1@mid.individual.net...

Yesterday there was a discussion on Newsnight in which the BBC presenter
was discussing Abbott's readmission to the Party with Phil Rosenberg >>(Board of Jewish Deputies), Lara Brown fromt the right-wing Spectator
and Chris Curtis of the Labour Party. You can see the discussion here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002zkd4/newsnight-abbott-back-in-the-labour-party

[...]

And nobody had the intelligence or courtesy to question whether Abbott is
actually antisemitic. She certainly isn't antisemitic, even if her letters to
newspapers are sometimes clumsily expressed

And her experience is actually an example of a powerful Jewish lobby
bullying
an elderly black woman who dares to suggest that black people experience more
discrimination and prejudice than Jews.

Which of course they do. Because black and Asian people are immediately identifiable from even 100 yards away. Whereas with Jewish people, unless they're famous and you can look them up on the Internet its often impossible to tell if they're Jewish at all.

I mean, you only have to look at the legal profession to see how many Jews >> have become eminent solicitors and barristers and how few black people have.

That's more a cultural thing; as Jewish people are generally associated with written culture and learning; unlike cockneys, black people, or working class people generally. And *more akin to * say aspiring middle class people originating
from the Indian Sub Continent

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On 01/08/2026 09:09, billy bookcase wrote:

"The Todal" <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in message news:nd486vFm2r1U1@mid.individual.net...

Yesterday there was a discussion on Newsnight in which the BBC presenter
was discussing Abbott's readmission to the Party with Phil Rosenberg
(Board of Jewish Deputies), Lara Brown fromt the right-wing Spectator
and Chris Curtis of the Labour Party. You can see the discussion here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002zkd4/newsnight-abbott-back-in-the-labour-party

[...]

And nobody had the intelligence or courtesy to question whether Abbott is
actually antisemitic. She certainly isn't antisemitic, even if her letters to
newspapers are sometimes clumsily expressed

And her experience is actually an example of a powerful Jewish lobby bullying
an elderly black woman who dares to suggest that black people experience more
discrimination and prejudice than Jews.

Which of course they do. Because black and Asian people are immediately identifiable from even 100 yards away. Whereas with Jewish people, unless they're famous and you can look them up on the Internet its often impossible to tell if they're Jewish at all.

I mean, you only have to look at the legal profession to see how many Jews >> have become eminent solicitors and barristers and how few black people have.

That's more a cultural thing; as Jewish people are generally associated with written culture and learning; unlike cockneys, black people, or working class people generally. And unlike say aspiring middle class people originating from the Indian Sub Continent

I hope you will feel able to continue posting to ULM where many of your contributions have been excellent.

My phrase "a powerful Jewish lobby" is a phrase that no British
newspaper would dare to print in these fevered times. Possibly Israeli newspapers would.

I disagree with your implication that Jews are wise and intelligent and
able to excel in careers which involve complex intellectual issues
whereas black people are good at sports and dancing. I exaggerate for
comic effect, of course. Could be my Jewish ancestry.

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"The Todal" <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in message news:nd5r8mFtq31U2@mid.individual.net...

I disagree with your implication that Jews are wise and intelligent

but they were encouraged by their Auntie Beattie to get an "ology", nevertheless
!

and able to excel in careers which involve complex intellectual issues whereas
black people are good at sports and dancing. I exaggerate for comic effect, of course. Could be my Jewish ancestry.

There was no such implication.

Black people like other working class people are simply denied the
opportunity to excel in careers which involve complex intellectual issues;
if for no other reason they have no bank of mum and dad to fall back on
tio finance their education.

Same as with actors who nowadays apparemntly comprise a large
proportion of Old Etonians,. And so unlike the 60's and the likes of
Albert Finney, Tom Courtney, Michael Caine etc. etc


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On 01/08/2026 in message <nd5r8mFtq31U2@mid.individual.net> The Todal wrote:

I mean, you only have to look at the legal profession to see how many Jews >>>have become eminent solicitors and barristers and how few black people >>>have.

That's more a cultural thing; as Jewish people are generally associated >>with
written culture and learning; unlike cockneys, black people, or working >>class
people generally. And unlike say aspiring middle class people originating >>from the Indian Sub Continent

I hope you will feel able to continue posting to ULM where many of your >contributions have been excellent.

My phrase "a powerful Jewish lobby" is a phrase that no British newspaper >would dare to print in these fevered times. Possibly Israeli newspapers >would.

I disagree with your implication that Jews are wise and intelligent and
able to excel in careers which involve complex intellectual issues whereas >black people are good at sports and dancing. I exaggerate for comic
effect, of course. Could be my Jewish ancestry.

If you put up a video of you dancing we could judge for ourselves :-)
--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Thanks for teaching me the meaning of plethora, it means a lot.
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