• Another Lucy Letby Stitch-Up Revealed (Part 1)

    From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Thu Jul 23 16:58:03 2026
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    quote:

    Maternity notes for the babies Lucy Letby has been convicted of
    murdering were not made available to her defence ahead of her
    trial, the BBC has learned.

    [...]

    File on 4 Investigates has discovered that maternity notes for
    the babies in the case - which include details of the mother's
    pregnancy, labour and birth - were seized by Cheshire Police.
    But they were not reviewed by the prosecution's chief medical
    expert or disclosed to Letby's defence.

    One concern is that the maternity history of the babies in
    the case was not adequately considered.

    [ In the absence of these notes its difficult to see how it
    was considered at all]

    Experts told the BBC that it is critical to fully assess the
    pregnancy,labour and delivery of a baby when determining why
    they collapsed and died.

    { However and as might be expected }

    Dr Dewi Evans, the chief medical witness for the prosecution,
    said the full maternity notes were not relevant to the case.

    "I never saw any obstetric notes and I have no idea what
    happened to them," he said.

    Thus leading to MORE FLAWED LOGIC FROM THE CPS

    quote:

    The CPS reasoned that because the prosecution did not use them

    to form its case against Letby, they were not relevant.

    :unquote

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g93n0j2ko

    IOW because the entire prosecution rested on Evans' concocted
    explanations as to how Letby had killed the babies, and because
    those notes didn't form any part of Evans' concocted explanations
    ( but in fact could potentially be used to offer an alternative
    explanation ) they were not released to the defence !

    That is how the CPS "reasoned". Read it again !

    quote:

    The CPS reasoned that because the prosecution did not use them

    to form its case against Letby, they were not relevant.

    :unquote


    So what of the notes themselves ?

    quote:

    However, Phil Bennett, professor of obstetrics and gynaecology
    at Imperial College London, disagreed.

    "It's very surprising indeed to me that little or no attention
    was paid to the maternity care in these cases," he says.

    Bennett has reviewed one case, referred to in court as Baby O, in
    detail on behalf of her new defence.

    The jury unanimously convicted Letby of murdering the triplet after
    the prosecution said she had injected air into his bloodstream, into
    his feeding tube and inflicted liver damage.

    Bennett relied on Baby O's neonatal notes as well as testimony from
    a police interview with the baby's mother about the infant's birth.

    The prosecution argued that Baby O was born in good condition and
    was stable for 48 hours before he suddenly collapsed. They said
    that indicated that Letby attacked him.

    But Bennett's opinion is that the baby died from a liver condition
    caused by an injury to his liver during, what he believed was,
    a difficult Caesarean section to deliver him.

    He says though this is quite rare, there was substantial medical
    literature on it.

    :unquote

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g93n0j2ko *

    So that not only is this potential "New Evidence", on the basis
    of which the defence could launch yet another Leave to Appeal; but
    it would appear the case the both the police and the CPS have laid
    themselves open to prosecution on the grounds of not only withholding
    evidence from the Defence at the time of the original trial; but of
    afterwards continuing to conceal the fact, during the course of
    the various Appeals



    bb


    WARNING half way down this link contains a photo the cocksure
    hatchet faced incompetent *Expert Witness* Dewi Evans; who somehow
    convinced the Police and the CPS to waste millions of pounds of
    taxpayers money on a flawed prosecution based solely on his manifest incompetence(see part 2) allied with a seeming ability to
    convincingly lie through his doubtless yellow stained teeth.

















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  • From Brian Morrison@news@fenrir.org.uk to uk.net.news.moderation on Thu Jul 23 22:07:03 2026
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    On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 16:58:03 +0100
    "billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

    So that not only is this potential "New Evidence", on the basis
    of which the defence could launch yet another Leave to Appeal; but
    it would appear the case the both the police and the CPS have laid
    themselves open to prosecution on the grounds of not only withholding evidence from the Defence at the time of the original trial; but of afterwards continuing to conceal the fact, during the course of
    the various Appeals

    Depressing isn't it. But sadly in no way at all surprising.

    One would almost think that someone at a higher level was telling them
    to ensure that certain information was buried and unobtainable.
    --

    Brian Morrison "No, his mind is not for rent
    To any god or government
    Always hopeful, but discontent
    He knows changes aren't permanent
    But change is"

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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Jul 24 09:48:11 2026
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    "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message news:20260723220703.6ac566ee@deangelis.fenrir.org.uk...
    On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 16:58:03 +0100
    "billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

    So that not only is this potential "New Evidence", on the basis
    of which the defence could launch yet another Leave to Appeal; but
    it would appear the case the both the police and the CPS have laid
    themselves open to prosecution on the grounds of not only withholding
    evidence from the Defence at the time of the original trial; but of
    afterwards continuing to conceal the fact, during the course of
    the various Appeals

    Depressing isn't it. But sadly in no way at all surprising.

    One would almost think that someone at a higher level was telling them
    to ensure that certain information was buried and unobtainable.


    quote:

    5 September 2025

    Fourteen NHS trusts are to have their maternity services examined
    over what has been described as "failures in the system",
    the government has said...

    :unquote

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg6xj1vz70o


    So that in addition to all the overtime she was putting in
    at the Countess of Chester Hospital, it looks like Lucy
    Letby was doing a fair bit of moonlighting as well.



    bb




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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Jul 24 09:43:41 2026
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    Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 16:58:03 +0100
    "billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

    So that not only is this potential "New Evidence", on the basis
    of which the defence could launch yet another Leave to Appeal; but
    it would appear the case the both the police and the CPS have laid
    themselves open to prosecution on the grounds of not only withholding
    evidence from the Defence at the time of the original trial; but of
    afterwards continuing to conceal the fact, during the course of
    the various Appeals

    Depressing isn't it. But sadly in no way at all surprising.

    One would almost think that someone at a higher level was telling them
    to ensure that certain information was buried and unobtainable.

    Have you ever read the book 1984?

    In it, the members of the Inner Party, selected via examination(s), werenrCOt subject to overall control because each knew what to do in any situation.

    Not that IrCOm saying thererCOs any parallels with the health system, legal system, inquiry system, law enforcement system, etc.
    --
    Spike
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  • From Pamela@pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Jul 24 15:00:43 2026
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    On 16:58 23 Jul 2026, billy bookcase said:

    quote:

    Maternity notes for the babies Lucy Letby has been convicted of
    murdering were not made available to her defence ahead of her
    trial, the BBC has learned.

    [...] etc

    Wouldn't your post be better in ULM where more people might see it?

    I saw someone mention here that your ban had been lifted.
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Jul 24 17:03:02 2026
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    "Pamela" <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in message news:XnsB49398B5E7AE91F3QA2@157.180.91.226...
    On 16:58 23 Jul 2026, billy bookcase said:

    quote:

    Maternity notes for the babies Lucy Letby has been convicted of
    murdering were not made available to her defence ahead of her
    trial, the BBC has learned.

    [...] etc

    Wouldn't your post be better in ULM where more people might see it?


    WARNING half way down this link contains a photo the cocksure
    hatchet faced incompetent *Expert Witness* Dewi Evans; who somehow
    convinced the Police and the CPS to waste millions of pounds of
    taxpayers money on a flawed prosecution based solely on his manifest incompetence(see part 2) allied with a seeming ability to
    convincingly lie through his doubtless yellow stained teeth.



    bb





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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Jul 24 16:10:13 2026
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    On 2026-07-24, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Pamela" <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in message news:XnsB49398B5E7AE91F3QA2@157.180.91.226...
    On 16:58 23 Jul 2026, billy bookcase said:

    quote:

    Maternity notes for the babies Lucy Letby has been convicted of
    murdering were not made available to her defence ahead of her
    trial, the BBC has learned.

    [...] etc

    Wouldn't your post be better in ULM where more people might see it?

    WARNING half way down this link contains a photo the cocksure
    hatchet faced incompetent *Expert Witness*
    [snip]

    Well, yes, we'd have to reject that. But was it really necessary?
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Jul 24 17:47:25 2026
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    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn11673j5.sfa.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-24, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Pamela" <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XnsB49398B5E7AE91F3QA2@157.180.91.226...
    On 16:58 23 Jul 2026, billy bookcase said:

    quote:

    Maternity notes for the babies Lucy Letby has been convicted of
    murdering were not made available to her defence ahead of her
    trial, the BBC has learned.

    [...] etc

    Wouldn't your post be better in ULM where more people might see it?

    WARNING half way down this link contains a photo the cocksure
    hatchet faced incompetent *Expert Witness*
    [snip]

    Well, yes, we'd have to reject that.


    Yes you would, wouldn't you.


    But was it really necessary?


    I'm sorry; but you're not allowed to start another argument
    before finishing the last one.



    bb


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  • From Brian Morrison@news@fenrir.org.uk to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Jul 24 22:15:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation

    On 24 Jul 2026 09:43:41 GMT
    Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 16:58:03 +0100
    "billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

    So that not only is this potential "New Evidence", on the basis
    of which the defence could launch yet another Leave to Appeal; but
    it would appear the case the both the police and the CPS have laid
    themselves open to prosecution on the grounds of not only
    withholding evidence from the Defence at the time of the original
    trial; but of afterwards continuing to conceal the fact, during
    the course of the various Appeals

    Depressing isn't it. But sadly in no way at all surprising.

    One would almost think that someone at a higher level was telling
    them to ensure that certain information was buried and
    unobtainable.

    Have you ever read the book 1984?

    In it, the members of the Inner Party, selected via examination(s),
    werenrCOt subject to overall control because each knew what to do in
    any situation.

    Not that IrCOm saying thererCOs any parallels with the health system,
    legal system, inquiry system, law enforcement system, etc.

    Whatever you call these people, they should have to work for a living
    just like everyone else. Currently they seem immune to the need to use
    any brain power.
    --
    Brian Morrison "No, his mind is not for rent
    To any god or government
    Always hopeful, but discontent
    He knows changes aren't permanent
    But change is"
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