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    From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 13:03:34 2026
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    "The Todal"

    <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in messagenews:nbousrFgjmjU1@mid.individual.net...>

    The murder of Ann Widdecombe has resulted in a series of anecdotes from other> politicians about death threats that they face regularly.>> Is it perhaps because Ann was a gentle old lady, probably eccentric and> wrong-headed but nevertheless admired for her honesty and lack of fashion> sense? I did quite like her, especially as she never really made her views> more popular by her public statements.>> Now an MP claims that when sitting quietly in a pub he was accused by another> customer of participating in Gaza's genocide. I think that should go with the> territory, and if MPs want to be protected from such non-violent arguments> they should stay at home or wear a disguise in public places. They want all> the publicity and the attention when they are standing for election. Do they> then want all arguments to be confined within the hallowed precincts of> Parliament? Of course, actual threats of violence should be traced back to the> sender and there should be prosecutions.>> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats-daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation>>
    The former victims' minister Alex Davies-Jones said threats were a weekly> occurrence for most MPs she knew. "It changes how you live your life. You're> constantly on alert and always looking out for danger," she said. "I think > it's> definitely got more severe. It feels like increasingly some members of
    public feel they can openly harass and be quite aggressive.">> Another male
    MP said they now avoided pubs after being aggressively cornered> while having a drink with his wife. "Someone just launched at me over Gaza,> saying that I had taken part in a genocide," they said. "It's just not a reasonable discussion, it's just an attack.

    My contribution

    "Unfortunately this is symptomatic of a coarsening of
    public life exxacerbated by increasing political polarisation. Starting in
    the US.Where previously political opponents and academics with differing views could step back and share common ground, nowadays that's no longer possible and insults are traded instead.

    Which then naturally seeps down to the public, In the UK
    Brexit was possibly the first divisive issue where this really became apparent.It's also a consequence of widespread participation in social media; where people are losing sight of any difference between what they'd type on
    a screen about someone and what they would say to their face in public.To a respectable MP at least. Rather than say, Tommy Robinson Buoyed up by the support
    they're getting for their views on social media.I just happened to have been reading Jared Diamond on this topic. Who himself has been subject to such abuse.

    bb



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  • From Roger Hayter@roger@hayter.org to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 12:24:14 2026
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    On 15 Jul 2026 at 13:03:34 BST, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

    Thank you for your message. However the moderators have rejected it
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    "The Todal"

    <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in messagenews:nbousrFgjmjU1@mid.individual.net...>

    The murder of Ann Widdecombe has resulted in a series of anecdotes from other>
    politicians about death threats that they face regularly.>> Is it perhaps because Ann was a gentle old lady, probably eccentric and> wrong-headed but nevertheless admired for her honesty and lack of fashion> sense? I did quite like her, especially as she never really made her views> more popular by her public statements.>> Now an MP claims that when sitting quietly in a pub he was
    accused by another> customer of participating in Gaza's genocide. I think that
    should go with the> territory, and if MPs want to be protected from such non-violent arguments> they should stay at home or wear a disguise in public places. They want all> the publicity and the attention when they are standing for election. Do they> then want all arguments to be confined within the hallowed precincts of> Parliament? Of course, actual threats of violence should
    be traced back to the> sender and there should be prosecutions.>> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats-daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation>>
    The former victims' minister Alex Davies-Jones said threats were a weekly> occurrence for most MPs she knew. "It changes how you live your life. You're> constantly on alert and always looking out for danger," she said. "I think > it's> definitely got more severe. It feels like increasingly some members of
    public feel they can openly harass and be quite aggressive.">> Another
    male
    MP said they now avoided pubs after being aggressively cornered> while having a
    drink with his wife. "Someone just launched at me over Gaza,> saying that I had
    taken part in a genocide," they said. "It's just not a reasonable discussion, it's just an attack.

    My contribution

    "Unfortunately this is symptomatic of a coarsening of
    public life exxacerbated by increasing political polarisation. Starting in the US.Where previously political opponents and academics with differing views could step back and share common ground, nowadays that's no longer possible and insults are traded instead.

    Which then naturally seeps down to the public, In the UK
    Brexit was possibly the first divisive issue where this really became apparent.It's also a consequence of widespread participation in social media; where people are losing sight of any difference between what they'd type on
    a screen about someone and what they would say to their face in public.To a respectable MP at least. Rather than say, Tommy Robinson Buoyed up by the support
    they're getting for their views on social media.I just happened to have been reading Jared Diamond on this topic. Who himself has been subject to such abuse.

    bb

    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing about prepaid credit cards???
    --

    Roger Hayter
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 14:25:32 2026
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    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    On 15 Jul 2026 at 13:03:34 BST, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

    Thank you for your message. However the moderators have rejected it
    because it appears to them that you have been attempting to disrupt
    the group by posting inappropriately.

    Examples of inappropriate posting include repeatedly posting a
    contribution that has already been rejected more than once by the
    moderators, or using an unacceptable posting name.

    start post


    "The Todal"

    <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in
    messagenews:nbousrFgjmjU1@mid.individual.net...>

    The murder of Ann Widdecombe has resulted in a series of anecdotes from
    other>
    politicians about death threats that they face regularly.>> Is it perhaps
    because Ann was a gentle old lady, probably eccentric and> wrong-headed but >> nevertheless admired for her honesty and lack of fashion> sense? I did quite >> like her, especially as she never really made her views> more popular by her >> public statements.>> Now an MP claims that when sitting quietly in a pub he >> was
    accused by another> customer of participating in Gaza's genocide. I think
    that
    should go with the> territory, and if MPs want to be protected from such
    non-violent arguments> they should stay at home or wear a disguise in public >> places. They want all> the publicity and the attention when they are standing
    for election. Do they> then want all arguments to be confined within the
    hallowed precincts of> Parliament? Of course, actual threats of violence
    should
    be traced back to the> sender and there should be prosecutions.>>
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats-daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation>>
    The former victims' minister Alex Davies-Jones said threats were a weekly> >> occurrence for most MPs she knew. "It changes how you live your life. You're>
    constantly on alert and always looking out for danger," she said. "I think > >> it's> definitely got more severe. It feels like increasingly some members of >> the> public feel they can openly harass and be quite aggressive.">> Another >> male
    MP said they now avoided pubs after being aggressively cornered> while having
    a
    drink with his wife. "Someone just launched at me over Gaza,> saying that I >> had
    taken part in a genocide," they said. "It's just not a reasonable discussion,
    it's just an attack.

    My contribution

    "Unfortunately this is symptomatic of a coarsening of
    public life exxacerbated by increasing political polarisation. Starting in >> the US.Where previously political opponents and academics with differing >> views could step back and share common ground, nowadays that's no longer
    possible and insults are traded instead.

    Which then naturally seeps down to the public, In the UK
    Brexit was possibly the first divisive issue where this really became
    apparent.It's also a consequence of widespread participation in social media;
    where people are losing sight of any difference between what they'd type on >> a screen about someone and what they would say to their face in public.To a >> respectable MP at least. Rather than say, Tommy Robinson Buoyed up by the
    support
    they're getting for their views on social media.I just happened to have been >> reading Jared Diamond on this topic. Who himself has been subject to such
    abuse.

    bb

    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing about prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    And is hardly a good basis, for discussions of any kind, about anything at all

    Which I so I'm led to believe at least, is the supposed purpose of Usenet discussion's.



    bb



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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 15:17:19 2026
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    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing about >> prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning
    difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that
    they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    If that is the case, it's not the only psychological flaw on display.
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  • From The Todal@the_todal@icloud.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 17:17:54 2026
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    On 15/07/2026 13:24, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 15 Jul 2026 at 13:03:34 BST, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

    Thank you for your message. However the moderators have rejected it
    because it appears to them that you have been attempting to disrupt
    the group by posting inappropriately.

    Examples of inappropriate posting include repeatedly posting a
    contribution that has already been rejected more than once by the
    moderators, or using an unacceptable posting name.

    start post


    "The Todal"

    <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in
    messagenews:nbousrFgjmjU1@mid.individual.net...>

    The murder of Ann Widdecombe has resulted in a series of anecdotes from other>
    politicians about death threats that they face regularly.>> Is it perhaps
    because Ann was a gentle old lady, probably eccentric and> wrong-headed but >> nevertheless admired for her honesty and lack of fashion> sense? I did quite >> like her, especially as she never really made her views> more popular by her >> public statements.>> Now an MP claims that when sitting quietly in a pub he was
    accused by another> customer of participating in Gaza's genocide. I think that
    should go with the> territory, and if MPs want to be protected from such
    non-violent arguments> they should stay at home or wear a disguise in public >> places. They want all> the publicity and the attention when they are standing
    for election. Do they> then want all arguments to be confined within the
    hallowed precincts of> Parliament? Of course, actual threats of violence should
    be traced back to the> sender and there should be prosecutions.>>
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats-daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation>>
    The former victims' minister Alex Davies-Jones said threats were a weekly> >> occurrence for most MPs she knew. "It changes how you live your life. You're>
    constantly on alert and always looking out for danger," she said. "I think > >> it's> definitely got more severe. It feels like increasingly some members of >> the> public feel they can openly harass and be quite aggressive.">> Another >> male
    MP said they now avoided pubs after being aggressively cornered> while having a
    drink with his wife. "Someone just launched at me over Gaza,> saying that I had
    taken part in a genocide," they said. "It's just not a reasonable discussion,
    it's just an attack.

    My contribution

    "Unfortunately this is symptomatic of a coarsening of
    public life exxacerbated by increasing political polarisation. Starting in >> the US.Where previously political opponents and academics with differing >> views could step back and share common ground, nowadays that's no longer
    possible and insults are traded instead.

    Which then naturally seeps down to the public, In the UK
    Brexit was possibly the first divisive issue where this really became
    apparent.It's also a consequence of widespread participation in social media;
    where people are losing sight of any difference between what they'd type on >> a screen about someone and what they would say to their face in public.To a >> respectable MP at least. Rather than say, Tommy Robinson Buoyed up by the
    support
    they're getting for their views on social media.I just happened to have been >> reading Jared Diamond on this topic. Who himself has been subject to such
    abuse.

    bb

    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing about prepaid credit cards???


    It is an unjustified and unreasonable rejection.


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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 16:42:10 2026
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    On 2026-07-15, The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 13:24, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 15 Jul 2026 at 13:03:34 BST, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote: >>> Thank you for your message. However the moderators have rejected it
    because it appears to them that you have been attempting to disrupt
    the group by posting inappropriately.

    Examples of inappropriate posting include repeatedly posting a
    contribution that has already been rejected more than once by the
    moderators, or using an unacceptable posting name.

    start post


    "The Todal"

    <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote in
    messagenews:nbousrFgjmjU1@mid.individual.net...>

    The murder of Ann Widdecombe has resulted in a series of anecdotes from other>
    politicians about death threats that they face regularly.>> Is it perhaps >>> because Ann was a gentle old lady, probably eccentric and> wrong-headed but >>> nevertheless admired for her honesty and lack of fashion> sense? I did quite
    like her, especially as she never really made her views> more popular by her
    public statements.>> Now an MP claims that when sitting quietly in a pub he was
    accused by another> customer of participating in Gaza's genocide. I think that
    should go with the> territory, and if MPs want to be protected from such >>> non-violent arguments> they should stay at home or wear a disguise in public
    places. They want all> the publicity and the attention when they are standing
    for election. Do they> then want all arguments to be confined within the >>> hallowed precincts of> Parliament? Of course, actual threats of violence should
    be traced back to the> sender and there should be prosecutions.>>
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats-daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation>>
    The former victims' minister Alex Davies-Jones said threats were a weekly> >>> occurrence for most MPs she knew. "It changes how you live your life. You're>
    constantly on alert and always looking out for danger," she said. "I think >
    it's> definitely got more severe. It feels like increasingly some members of
    public feel they can openly harass and be quite aggressive.">> Another >>> male
    MP said they now avoided pubs after being aggressively cornered> while having a
    drink with his wife. "Someone just launched at me over Gaza,> saying that I had
    taken part in a genocide," they said. "It's just not a reasonable discussion,
    it's just an attack.

    My contribution

    "Unfortunately this is symptomatic of a coarsening of
    public life exxacerbated by increasing political polarisation. Starting in >>> the US.Where previously political opponents and academics with differing >>> views could step back and share common ground, nowadays that's no longer >>> possible and insults are traded instead.

    Which then naturally seeps down to the public, In the UK
    Brexit was possibly the first divisive issue where this really became
    apparent.It's also a consequence of widespread participation in social media;
    where people are losing sight of any difference between what they'd type on >>> a screen about someone and what they would say to their face in public.To a >>> respectable MP at least. Rather than say, Tommy Robinson Buoyed up by the >>> support
    they're getting for their views on social media.I just happened to have been
    reading Jared Diamond on this topic. Who himself has been subject to such >>> abuse.

    bb

    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing about >> prepaid credit cards???

    It is an unjustified and unreasonable rejection.

    Check your WhatsApp.
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 18:29:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn115f93v.28b.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message
    news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing about >>> prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning
    difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that
    they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    If that is the case, it's not the only psychological flaw on display.

    Quite possibly; but as he's already mainly using the group as a source
    of free legal advice, I've no intention of throwing in free psychological profiling as well.



    bb



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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 17:37:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation

    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn115f93v.28b.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message
    news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop
    arguing about prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning
    difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that
    they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    If that is the case, it's not the only psychological flaw on display.

    Quite possibly; but as he's already mainly using the group as a source
    of free legal advice, I've no intention of throwing in free psychological profiling as well.

    I fear you may have missed my point, which was that more than one person involved was exhibiting psychological flaws.
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 19:09:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn115fhba.28b.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message
    news:slrn115f93v.28b.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message
    news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop
    arguing about prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning
    difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that
    they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    If that is the case, it's not the only psychological flaw on display.

    Quite possibly; but as he's already mainly using the group as a source
    of free legal advice, I've no intention of throwing in free psychological
    profiling as well.

    I fear you may have missed my point, which was that more than one person involved was exhibiting psychological flaws.

    Oh I see !

    You do realise of course, that limiting oneself to crypic observations, rathet than coming out and actually saying what one means, is itself symptomatic
    of one or more deep-seated psychological flaws ?,


    bb



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  • From Roger Hayter@roger@hayter.org to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 18:11:36 2026
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    On 15 Jul 2026 at 18:29:27 BST, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn115f93v.28b.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message
    news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing about
    prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning
    difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that
    they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    If that is the case, it's not the only psychological flaw on display.

    Quite possibly; but as he's already mainly using the group as a source
    of free legal advice, I've no intention of throwing in free psychological profiling as well.



    bb

    I think it is extraordinarily naive of you (and another poster) to suppose
    that Roland is using the group as a source of legal advice; he tends to use (more or less edited) personal cases as material for discussion, as a public service to the group. His main fault, in fact, is to become irrationally enraged if anyone disputes his own amateur legal analysis. That is really
    *not* asking for advice.
    --

    Roger Hayter
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 19:20:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message news:3909662315.a42e1aa5@uninhabited.net...
    On 15 Jul 2026 at 18:29:27 BST, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message
    news:slrn115f93v.28b.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message
    news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing >>>>> about
    prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning
    difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that
    they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    If that is the case, it's not the only psychological flaw on display.

    Quite possibly; but as he's already mainly using the group as a source
    of free legal advice, I've no intention of throwing in free psychological
    profiling as well.



    bb

    I think it is extraordinarily naive of you (and another poster) to suppose that Roland is using the group as a source of legal advice; he tends to use (more or less edited) personal cases as material for discussion, as a public service to the group. His main fault, in fact, is to become irrationally enraged if anyone disputes his own amateur legal analysis. That is really *not* asking for advice.

    So that in your own words, he presents " his own amateur legal analysis"
    and may become "irrationally enraged if anyone disputes it.

    I think you've made your point.



    bb






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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Wed Jul 15 19:40:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message news:3909662315.a42e1aa5@uninhabited.net...
    On 15 Jul 2026 at 18:29:27 BST, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message
    news:slrn115f93v.28b.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-07-15, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message
    news:1825409856.9037397c@uninhabited.net...
    I agree, that is a bizarre rejection. Perhaps you should stop arguing >>>>> about
    prepaid credit cards???

    Assuming what you are suggesting is true.

    It's not as though I'm taking advantage of someone with learning
    difficulties or anything, is it ?

    Or so I assume, at least.

    While if someone is psychologically incapable of ever admitting that
    they are wrong about anything, then that is hardly my fault is it ?

    If that is the case, it's not the only psychological flaw on display.

    Quite possibly; but as he's already mainly using the group as a source
    of free legal advice, I've no intention of throwing in free psychological
    profiling as well.



    bb

    I think it is extraordinarily naive of you (and another poster) to suppose that Roland is using the group as a source of legal advice;

    If you actually care to check, I think you'll find that I have
    consistently supported Mr Perry against accusations levelled against him
    by Mr Wells; both concerning his supposed undue interest in the
    widow in the IHT case, and regarding the questioning of his honesty
    by Mr Wells, in the gas meter thread.

    At one stage I did however make the rather salient point, that by choosing
    to discuss matters directly involving contributors, rather than in the abstract, there was always that much greater possibility of
    people taking offence

    Or as you say yourself in another post becoming "irrationally enraged"

    I do hope that makes matters clearer for you.



    bb



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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.co.uk to uk.net.news.moderation on Thu Jul 16 07:43:37 2026
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    In message <3909662315.a42e1aa5@uninhabited.net>, at 18:11:36 on Wed, 15
    Jul 2026, Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> remarked:

    I think it is extraordinarily naive of you (and another poster) to suppose >that Roland is using the group

    by which I presume you mean ulm, not unnm.

    as a source of legal advice;

    It's not as if ulm was set up for people to ask for advice, is it?

    Recently I've been involved in probate matters, which like London buses
    seem to have arrived three at a time. And am much more up to speed as a result. One was concluded as recently as this week, with the DWP finally "NFA-ing" an enquiry into the benefit claims of that deceased.

    he tends to use (more or less edited) personal cases as material for >discussion, as a public service to the group. His main fault, in fact,
    is to become irrationally enraged if anyone disputes his own amateur
    legal analysis.

    I try very hard not to *give* advice, when the subject matter falls
    outside my own professional experience of the law. Which is skewed
    towards the law*making* end of the spectrum. My late wife was more
    involved in courtroom aspects, particularly with victims of domestic
    violence.

    That is really *not* asking for advice.

    The harassment of other ulm participants is definitely not permitted,
    although it does seem to be escalating.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Thu Jul 16 08:53:15 2026
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    "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message news:fsKMfDDZ2HWqFAjx@perry.uk...

    The harassment of other ulm participants is definitely not permitted, although
    it does seem to be escalating.

    That's a rather serious charge.

    Who exactly are you suggesting is being harassed, and by whom ?

    Or do you choose to regard all unwelcome but perfectly legitimate
    questions, as a form of harassment ?


    bb


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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.co.uk to uk.net.news.moderation on Thu Jul 16 09:22:07 2026
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    In message <113a2ld$1q15m$1@dont-email.me>, at 08:53:15 on Thu, 16 Jul
    2026, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> remarked:

    "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message >news:fsKMfDDZ2HWqFAjx@perry.uk...

    The harassment of other ulm participants is definitely not permitted, >>although it does seem to be escalating.

    That's a rather serious charge.

    Who exactly are you suggesting is being harassed, and by whom ?

    Or do you choose to regard all unwelcome but perfectly legitimate
    questions, as a form of harassment ?

    It's the way the questions are phrased.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Thu Jul 16 13:09:01 2026
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    "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message news:hBnTEoOvSJWqFAHo@perry.uk...
    In message <113a2ld$1q15m$1@dont-email.me>, at 08:53:15 on Thu, 16 Jul 2026, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> remarked:

    "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:fsKMfDDZ2HWqFAjx@perry.uk...

    The harassment of other ulm participants is definitely not permitted,
    although it does seem to be escalating.

    That's a rather serious charge.

    Who exactly are you suggesting is being harassed, and by whom ?

    Or do you choose to regard all unwelcome but perfectly legitimate >>questions, as a form of harassment ?

    It's the way the questions are phrased.

    As this is apparently* an issue concerning moderation policy I
    think it only reasonable for you to give same actual examples
    of what would normally be considered, to be inapproprite phrasing
    of questions

    As in the absence of any such imformation posters might otherwise
    feel themselves subject to the arbitrary whim of an unknown
    moderator, making unacountable decisions to which they themslves
    will never be privy.


    bb

    * That's only an assumption on my part of course.



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