• Re: Access to a deceased's computer

    From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Fri Mar 27 18:34:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Nicholas Collin Paul de Glouce?ter" <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote in message news:10q4064$1q9t7$2@paganini.bofh.team...

    I normally ignore this newsgroup as I am busy with real police
    officers and real lawyers in real courts cases instead of the usual opiniated, mistaken, amateurish drivel in this newsgroup.


    Pass !


    bb


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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.net.news.moderation on Sat Mar 28 05:14:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation

    On 2026-03-27, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Nicholas Collin Paul de Glouce?ter" <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote in message news:10q4064$1q9t7$2@paganini.bofh.team...
    I normally ignore this newsgroup as I am busy with real police
    officers and real lawyers in real courts cases instead of the usual
    opiniated, mistaken, amateurish drivel in this newsgroup.

    Pass !

    Is there a reason it shouldn't have been?
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Sat Mar 28 09:24:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn10seotf.7ge.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-03-27, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Nicholas Collin Paul de Glouce?ter" <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote in message
    news:10q4064$1q9t7$2@paganini.bofh.team...
    I normally ignore this newsgroup as I am busy with real police
    officers and real lawyers in real courts cases instead of the usual
    opiniated, mistaken, amateurish drivel in this newsgroup.

    Pass !

    Is there a reason it shouldn't have been?

    Well yes; because it's meta.

    It's a comment on the functioning of the group itself.

    Rather than concerning itself with a legal question or topic;
    or matters pertaining thereof.



    bb


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  • From Roger Hayter@roger@hayter.org to uk.net.news.moderation on Sat Mar 28 10:11:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation

    On 28 Mar 2026 at 09:24:06 GMT, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn10seotf.7ge.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-03-27, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Nicholas Collin Paul de Glouce?ter" <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote in message >>> news:10q4064$1q9t7$2@paganini.bofh.team...
    I normally ignore this newsgroup as I am busy with real police
    officers and real lawyers in real courts cases instead of the usual
    opiniated, mistaken, amateurish drivel in this newsgroup.

    Pass !

    Is there a reason it shouldn't have been?

    Well yes; because it's meta.

    It's a comment on the functioning of the group itself.

    Rather than concerning itself with a legal question or topic;
    or matters pertaining thereof.



    Is commenting on the group members, as opposed to the moderation, forbidden?
    I suppose it is arguable.
    --

    Roger Hayter
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Sat Mar 28 11:20:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message news:9269249142.cc07d64d@uninhabited.net...
    On 28 Mar 2026 at 09:24:06 GMT, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote:


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message
    news:slrn10seotf.7ge.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-03-27, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Nicholas Collin Paul de Glouce?ter" <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote in message >>>> news:10q4064$1q9t7$2@paganini.bofh.team...
    I normally ignore this newsgroup as I am busy with real police
    officers and real lawyers in real courts cases instead of the usual
    opiniated, mistaken, amateurish drivel in this newsgroup.

    Pass !

    Is there a reason it shouldn't have been?

    Well yes; because it's meta.

    It's a comment on the functioning of the group itself.

    Rather than concerning itself with a legal question or topic;
    or matters pertaining thereof.



    Is commenting on the group members, as opposed to the moderation, forbidden? I
    suppose it is arguable.

    Any reference to "the group", even its very existence, can be considered as meta.

    As its self-referential.

    As in "this newsgroup", above.

    Whereas comments on group members would not be. Although they might
    be found objectionable on other grounds,


    bb









    --

    Roger Hayter


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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.net.news.moderation on Sat Mar 28 12:12:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation

    On 2026-03-28, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message news:9269249142.cc07d64d@uninhabited.net...
    On 28 Mar 2026 at 09:24:06 GMT, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote: >>> "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message
    news:slrn10seotf.7ge.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-03-27, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Nicholas Collin Paul de Glouce?ter" <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:10q4064$1q9t7$2@paganini.bofh.team...
    I normally ignore this newsgroup as I am busy with real police
    officers and real lawyers in real courts cases instead of the usual >>>>>> opiniated, mistaken, amateurish drivel in this newsgroup.

    Pass !

    Is there a reason it shouldn't have been?

    Well yes; because it's meta.

    It's a comment on the functioning of the group itself.

    Rather than concerning itself with a legal question or topic;
    or matters pertaining thereof.

    Is commenting on the group members, as opposed to the moderation, forbidden? I
    suppose it is arguable.

    Any reference to "the group", even its very existence, can be considered as meta.

    As its self-referential.

    As in "this newsgroup", above.

    Whereas comments on group members would not be. Although they might
    be found objectionable on other grounds,

    You are right that it is kind've meta, and if that had been the whole
    content of the message then I quite likely would have rejected it for
    that reason. But it wasn't.

    (I've spoken in this group before about the difference between things
    that are 'must reject' - e.g. abuse, defamation - and things that are
    'may reject' - e.g. meta, off-topic.)
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  • From billy bookcase@billy@anon.com to uk.net.news.moderation on Sat Mar 28 14:34:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.net.news.moderation


    "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message news:slrn10sfhd1.7ge.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-03-28, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Roger Hayter" <roger@hayter.org> wrote in message
    news:9269249142.cc07d64d@uninhabited.net...
    On 28 Mar 2026 at 09:24:06 GMT, ""billy bookcase"" <billy@anon.com> wrote: >>>> "Jon Ribbens" <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> wrote in message
    news:slrn10seotf.7ge.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu...
    On 2026-03-27, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:
    "Nicholas Collin Paul de Glouce?ter" <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote in message
    news:10q4064$1q9t7$2@paganini.bofh.team...
    I normally ignore this newsgroup as I am busy with real police
    officers and real lawyers in real courts cases instead of the usual >>>>>>> opiniated, mistaken, amateurish drivel in this newsgroup.

    Pass !

    Is there a reason it shouldn't have been?

    Well yes; because it's meta.

    It's a comment on the functioning of the group itself.

    Rather than concerning itself with a legal question or topic;
    or matters pertaining thereof.

    Is commenting on the group members, as opposed to the moderation, forbidden?
    I
    suppose it is arguable.

    Any reference to "the group", even its very existence, can be considered as >> meta.

    As its self-referential.

    As in "this newsgroup", above.

    Whereas comments on group members would not be. Although they might
    be found objectionable on other grounds,

    You are right that it is kind've meta, and if that had been the whole
    content of the message then I quite likely would have rejected it for
    that reason. But it wasn't.

    (I've spoken in this group before about the difference between things
    that are 'must reject' - e.g. abuse, defamation - and things that are
    'may reject' - e.g. meta, off-topic.)


    If left unchallenged, as it was until Todal's intervention, it was a
    clear attempt to undermine the whole value, purpose, and legitimacy
    of the group.

    However, given its position right at the end of the post, it is admittedly questionable whether many people, moderators included, would have bothered
    to read that far.



    bb


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