Chart dated: 16th July 1983
1. (1) Rod Stewart Baby Jane
2. (3) Paul Young Wherever I Lay My Hat (That's My Home)
3. (5) Freeez I.O.U.
4. (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
5. (2) Irene Cara Flashdance... What A Feeling
9. (29) Eurythmics Who's That Girl?
10. (19) Malcolm McLaren Double Dutch
15. (10) Elton John I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues
20. (9) The Police Every Breath You Take
21. (36) Bananarama Cruel Summer
24. (16) Wham! Bad Boys
27. (17) David Bowie China Girl
28. (21) Michael Jackson Wanna Be Startin' Something
29. (30) Donna Summer She Works Hard For The Money
32. (40) Elvis Costello And The Attractions Everyday I Write The Book
35. (28) Yazoo Nobody's Diary
43. (NE) The Creatures Right Now
47. (31) Bob Marley & The Wailers Buffalo Soldier
54. (NE) The Thompson Twins Watching
60. (NE) Thomas Dolby She Blinded Me With Science {1983 reissue}
64. (NE) KC & The Sunshine Band Give It Up
65. (60) The Undertones Teenage Kicks EP
79. (62) New Order Blue Monday
On 15/07/2020 00:05, Chris Brown wrote:
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
1.-a-a (1) Rod Stewart-a-a-a Baby Jane
Wasn't this his last #1?
54. (NE) The Thompson Twins-a-a-a Watching
Thought I might have remembered more from a 1983 chart.
Thought I might have remembered more from a 1983 chart.
I feel like that was quite a lot. And there's one even I don't know.
On 15/07/2020 19:58, Chris Brown wrote:
Thought I might have remembered more from a 1983 chart.
I feel like that was quite a lot. And there's one even I don't know.
Which one?
On 16/07/2020 06:39, Vidcapper wrote:
On 15/07/2020 19:58, Chris Brown wrote:
Thought I might have remembered more from a 1983 chart.
I feel like that was quite a lot. And there's one even I don't know.
Which one?
The Thompson Twins - if I heard it at the time it obviously didn't make
much impression and it never gets played these days but having listened
back to it now I think it's better than some of their more famous songs.
-a-a-a-aChris
Yeah, so I tired myself out walking around Kew Gardens last weekend and accidentally posted the chart I'd scheduled for next weekend, so I'm
going to drop this in midweek before it gets out of date.
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
1.-a-a (1) Rod Stewart-a-a-a Baby Jane
2.-a-a (3) Paul Young-a-a-a Wherever I Lay My Hat (That's My Home)
3.-a-a (5) Freeez-a-a-a I.O.U.
4.-a-a (4) Mike Oldfield-a-a-a Moonlight Shadow
5.-a-a (2) Irene Cara-a-a-a Flashdance... What A Feeling
6.-a-a (7) Heaven 17-a-a-a Come Live With Me
7.-a-a (6) Tom Robinson-a-a-a War Baby
8.-a (15) Funk Masters-a-a-a It's Over
9.-a (29) Eurythmics-a-a-a Who's That Girl?
10. (19) Malcolm McLaren-a-a-a Double Dutch
11.-a (8) Shalamar-a-a-a Dead Giveaway
12. (12) Iron Maiden-a-a-a The Trooper
13. (14) ELO-a-a-a Rock N' Roll Is King
14. (11) Nick Heyward-a-a-a Take That Situation
15. (10) Elton John-a-a-a I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues
16. (24) Mary Jane Girls-a-a-a All Night Long
17. (34) The Cure-a-a-a The Walk
18. (20) David Sylvian & Ryuchi Sakamoto-a-a-a Forbidden Colours
19. (26) Jimmy The Hoover-a-a-a Tantalise (Wo Wo Ee Yeh Yeh)
20.-a (9) The Police-a-a-a Every Breath You Take
21. (36) Bananarama-a-a-a Cruel Summer
23. (32) Roman Holliday-a-a-a Don't Try To Stop It
36. (42) Lotus Eaters-a-a-a The First Picture Of You
38. (44) Oliver Cheatham-a-a-a Get Down Saturday Night
49. (NE) Robert Plant-a-a-a Big Log
53. (NE) Altered Images-a-a-a Love To Stay
56. (69) Status IV-a-a-a You Ain't Really Down
64. (NE) KC & The Sunshine Band-a-a-a Give It Up
68. (52) Toto-a-a-a I Won't Hold You Back
76. (79) Hazell Dean-a-a-a Searchin' (I Gotta Find A Man)
79. (62) New Order-a-a-a Blue Monday
86. (92) Hamilton Bohannon-a-a-a Let's Start To Dance Again {1983}
90. (99) The Icicle Works-a-a-a Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream)
94. (NE) The Adverts-a-a-a Gary Gilmore's Eyes {1983 reissue}
95. (94) Sad Cafe-a-a-a Keep Us Together
98. (NE) Naked Eyes-a-a-a Always Something There To Remind Me
-a-a-a-aChris
On 19/07/2020 00:10, Chris Brown wrote:
On 16/07/2020 06:39, Vidcapper wrote:
On 15/07/2020 19:58, Chris Brown wrote:
Thought I might have remembered more from a 1983 chart.
I feel like that was quite a lot. And there's one even I don't know.
Which one?
The Thompson Twins - if I heard it at the time it obviously didn't
make much impression and it never gets played these days but having
listened back to it now I think it's better than some of their more
famous songs.
It's rarely, if ever, played so at least none of us have had a chance to
get sick of it. It was a bit of a flop at the time given that they'd had
two top 10 hits and would have three more after this single. I just
remember it as being a bit of a dull song.
On 19/07/2020 10:08, Robbie wrote:
21. (36) Bananarama-a-a-a Cruel Summer
Great song. I love the Nana's from this period.
How do you feel about 'Cruel Summer '89' ?
53. (NE) Altered Images-a-a-a Love To Stay
Their last chart hit.
Understandably.
79. (62) New Order-a-a-a Blue Monday
Looking for all intents and purposes like it was down and on its way
out of the charts. Five years later it was still in the top 200 and
indeed in a remix form would once again make the top 10.
And yet again in 1995 with the remix nobody mentions.
95. (94) Sad Cafe-a-a-a Keep Us Together
The other Paul Young. It was 20 years ago on Wednesday (15 July) when
he died of a heart attack.
Really that long ago?
-a-a-a-aChris
On 19/07/2020 16:31, Chris Brown wrote:
On 19/07/2020 10:08, Robbie wrote:
21. (36) Bananarama-a-a-a Cruel Summer
Great song. I love the Nana's from this period.
How do you feel about 'Cruel Summer '89' ?
It's awful!
53. (NE) Altered Images-a-a-a Love To Stay
Their last chart hit.
Understandably.
Did they call it a day after this single?
79. (62) New Order-a-a-a Blue Monday
Looking for all intents and purposes like it was down and on its way
out of the charts. Five years later it was still in the top 200 and
indeed in a remix form would once again make the top 10.
And yet again in 1995 with the remix nobody mentions.
I think most people have forgotten about that one.
Yeah, so I tired myself out walking around Kew Gardens last weekend and accidentally posted the chart I'd scheduled for next weekend, so I'm going to drop this in midweek before it gets out of date.
Ironically, this is one I had planned months ago, as a belated tribute to Terry Jones. Since that time Hamilton Bohannon has sadly also died.
But to be more positive, there are some good songs in the higher end of
the chart. Also a fairly well-known non-hit, a couple of bands proving
they weren't really One hit wonders, some punk records that were already a few years old, and Heaven 17's poor maths.
Playlists are here, and Tom Robinson has finally allowed his music to be streamed. I'm pretty sure I found the correct version of Freeez on
YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdiUvgvgpgNqy8Nj6ybc7jlWrLwlW557n https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Gc2rHCEToed2NzyspB2oO?si=H6FRu_gIRaO4ItnGx2-dbw
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
4. (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
6. (7) Heaven 17 Come Live With Me
32. (40) Elvis Costello And The Attractions Everyday I Write The Book
44. (NE) Tracie Give It Some Emotion
48. (41) Yello I Love You
68. (52) Toto I Won't Hold You Back
74. (50) JoBoxers Just Got Lucky
78. (84) Mike Berry Every Little While
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
4. (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
What other 4am does he think there is, other than the one in the morning referred to in this song?
On 21/07/2020 19:24, James Heaton wrote:
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
4. (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
What other 4am does he think there is, other than the one in the morning
referred to in this song?
Yes, that bemused me too. :)
"Chris Brown" <extreme_rice@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:reldo7$ajv$1@dont-email.me...
Yeah, so I tired myself out walking around Kew Gardens last weekend
and accidentally posted the chart I'd scheduled for next weekend, so
I'm going to drop this in midweek before it gets out of date.
Ironically, this is one I had planned months ago, as a belated tribute
to Terry Jones. Since that time Hamilton Bohannon has sadly also died.
But to be more positive, there are some good songs in the higher end
of the chart. Also a fairly well-known non-hit, a couple of bands
proving they weren't really One hit wonders, some punk records that
were already a few years old, and Heaven 17's poor maths.
Playlists are here, and Tom Robinson has finally allowed his music to
be streamed. I'm pretty sure I found the correct version of Freeez on
YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdiUvgvgpgNqy8Nj6ybc7jlWrLwlW557n
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Gc2rHCEToed2NzyspB2oO?si=H6FRu_gIRaO4ItnGx2-dbw
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
4.-a-a (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
What other 4am does he think there is, other than the one in the morning referred to in this song?
6.-a-a (7) Heaven 17 Come Live With Me
Dodgy lyrics...
32. (40) Elvis Costello And The Attractions Everyday I Write The Book
Theme tune to various literary shows down the years, Radio Wales used in
the 90s
44. (NE) Tracie Give It Some Emotion
The House the Jack Built is heading towards the dumper...
48. (41) Yello I Love You
I didn't realise they were around this early, The Race is the first I remember.
68. (52) Toto I Won't Hold You Back
Sampled in Roger Sanchez's Another Try
74. (50) JoBoxers Just Got Lucky
This was an answer in Popmaster today; luckily it was name one of their
two hits and I knew the other one
78. (84) Mike Berry Every Little While
The Outlaws had presumbly escaped by now?
On 21/07/2020 19:24, James Heaton wrote:
78. (84) Mike Berry Every Little While
The Outlaws had presumbly escaped by now?
This was a collaboration with Chas & Dave, but to be fair they might
have been in The Outlaws for all I know.
-a-a-a-aChris
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 06:39:04 +0100, Vidcapper <vidcapper1@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:24, James Heaton wrote:
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
4. (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
What other 4am does he think there is, other than the one in the morning >>> referred to in this song?
Yes, that bemused me too. :)
But it has to rhyme and scan, though. I'm not sure how you could rewrite
that line to avoid the tautology without losing the flow. Simply
replacing "am" with "o'clock", which would work as far as the metre is concerned, loses the alliteration which is an important aspect of the
lyric.
On 23/07/2020 22:08, Chris Brown wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:24, James Heaton wrote:
78. (84) Mike Berry Every Little While
The Outlaws had presumbly escaped by now?
This was a collaboration with Chas & Dave, but to be fair they might
have been in The Outlaws for all I know.
I had to check this up on discogs to find out for certain but Chas
Hodges was in the Outlaws along with, amongst many others, Ritchie Blackmore. They were Joe Meek's studio band and not long before his
death Chas tweeted that he played bass on John Leyton's 'Johnny Remember Me', a Joe Meek production that was a number 1 in 1961.
On 23/07/2020 21:27, Mark Goodge wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 06:39:04 +0100, Vidcapper <vidcapper1@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:24, James Heaton wrote:
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
4. (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
What other 4am does he think there is, other than the one in the morning >>>> referred to in this song?
Yes, that bemused me too. :)
But it has to rhyme and scan, though. I'm not sure how you could rewrite
that line to avoid the tautology without losing the flow. Simply
replacing "am" with "o'clock", which would work as far as the metre is
concerned, loses the alliteration which is an important aspect of the
lyric.
I didn't realise that was supposed to alliterate. But I suppose the
problem is that once you have noticed it, it becomes a distraction and >breaks the flow anyway.
I guess you could say something similar about "I was 37, you were 17,
you were half my age..." in the Heaven 17 song. "I was 34" wouldn't
scan, making the younger person a different age would also spoil the
flow and possibly rhyme, plus it would miss the association with the
band name. I prefer to think that the protagonist is being a bit
dishonest by understating the age difference.
On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 15:08:42 +0100, Chris Brown <extreme_rice@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 23/07/2020 21:27, Mark Goodge wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 06:39:04 +0100, Vidcapper <vidcapper1@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:24, James Heaton wrote:
Chart dated: 16th July 1983
4. (4) Mike Oldfield Moonlight Shadow
What other 4am does he think there is, other than the one in the morning >>>>> referred to in this song?
Yes, that bemused me too. :)
But it has to rhyme and scan, though. I'm not sure how you could rewrite >>> that line to avoid the tautology without losing the flow. Simply
replacing "am" with "o'clock", which would work as far as the metre is
concerned, loses the alliteration which is an important aspect of the
lyric.
I didn't realise that was supposed to alliterate. But I suppose the
problem is that once you have noticed it, it becomes a distraction and
breaks the flow anyway.
Alliteration is one of those things that works best when you don't
really notice it unless you look for it. If you over-do it then it's a distraction rather than enhancement.
In this case, it's just a few words
in the lyric, so it isn't excessive, but the "m" in "4am" links it to "morning" and "moonlight" in a way that "clock" wouldn't.
I guess you could say something similar about "I was 37, you were 17,
you were half my age..." in the Heaven 17 song. "I was 34" wouldn't
scan, making the younger person a different age would also spoil the
flow and possibly rhyme, plus it would miss the association with the
band name. I prefer to think that the protagonist is being a bit
dishonest by understating the age difference.
Yes, it's something that works on several levels. I suspect that the
apparent error was deliberate. Or, at least, that the composer was more interested in writing good poetry than accurate maths.
Disregarding normal grammatical conventions is something that, if done sparingly, can be very effective. A couple of other examples I can think
of offhand are the first line of "Nothing Compares to You", which
reverses the normal way we express the passage of time ("seven hours and fifteen days"),
and "Trash" by Suede, which alternates between "you and
me" and "me and you" in successive couplets so as to set up a different
rhyme each time.
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