• Review of Doctor Who - Image of the Fendhal

    From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 16 04:02:49 2026
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    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not
    as accurate as view it.

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been
    the Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the evolution
    of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue with Leela.


    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm!
    Interesting concept.

    A cult of 12 of 13 needed. Too bad they did not know
    what they were doing.

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 16 19:18:08 2026
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    On 16/05/2026 2:02 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    So, instead of getting a 650 line Review, we get a 36 line (including
    the Sig File) review!! Shock!! Horror!!

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    And WHAT do they do with it, Binky??

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    WHY?? Is/Was The Doctor 'Anti-Fissure' or something??

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Google Maps doesn't know anything about "Fetchborough" .... but WAS able
    to locate 'Fetch Recruitment Agency, Melbourne" and "Fetch & Fabulous"
    Pet Groomers.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    "Horro"??

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The Doctor being scared off .... Nah!! Never going to happen ... however
    He might Strategically Withdraw from a Situation!!

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    Yeap ... and one put forward by several RL Scientists.

    A cult of 12 of 13 needed. Too bad they did not know what they were
    doing.

    "A cult of 12 of 13 needed"?? Would THEY all have to deny the existence
    of JodieDoctor??

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 16 20:46:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 16/05/2026 7:18 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 2:02 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    So, instead of getting a 650 line Review, we get a 36 line (including
    the Sig File) review!! Shock!! Horror!!

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    And WHAT do they do with it, Binky??

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    WHY?? Is/Was The Doctor 'Anti-Fissure' or something??

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Google Maps doesn't know anything about "Fetchborough" .... but WAS able
    to locate 'Fetch Recruitment Agency, Melbourne" and "Fetch & Fabulous"
    Pet Groomers.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    "Horro"??

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The Doctor being scared off .... Nah!! Never going to happen ... however
    He might Strategically Withdraw from a Situation!!

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.-a Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    Yeap ... and one put forward by several RL Scientists.

    A cult of 12 of 13 needed.-a Too bad they did not know what they were
    doing.

    "A cult of 12 of 13 needed"?? Would THEY all have to deny the existence
    of JodieDoctor??

    Or did 'they' not count 'The War Doctor'??

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !

    THAT High!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 16 13:40:35 2026
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    In article <10u9cof$ruie$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 2:02 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    So, instead of getting a 650 line Review, we get a 36 line (including
    the Sig File) review!! Shock!! Horror!!

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    And WHAT do they do with it, Binky(Word used by paedophiles
    to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation)??

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    WHY?? Is/Was The Doctor 'Anti-Fissure' or something??

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Google Maps doesn't know anything about "Fetchborough" .... but WAS able
    to locate 'Fetch Recruitment Agency, Melbourne" and "Fetch & Fabulous"
    Pet Groomers.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    "Horro"??

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The Doctor being scared off .... Nah!! Never going to happen ... however
    He might Strategically Withdraw from a Situation!!

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    Yeap ... and one put forward by several RL Scientists.

    A cult of 12 of 13 needed. Too bad they did not know what they were
    doing.

    "A cult of 12 of 13 needed"?? Would THEY all have to deny the existence
    of JodieDoctor??


    Red Card!

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 16 13:41:22 2026
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    In article <10u9hub$tbpq$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 7:18 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 2:02 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    So, instead of getting a 650 line Review, we get a 36 line (including
    the Sig File) review!! Shock!! Horror!!

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    And WHAT do they do with it, Binky(Word used by paedophiles
    to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation)??

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    WHY?? Is/Was The Doctor 'Anti-Fissure' or something??

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Google Maps doesn't know anything about "Fetchborough" .... but WAS able
    to locate 'Fetch Recruitment Agency, Melbourne" and "Fetch & Fabulous"
    Pet Groomers.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    "Horro"??

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The Doctor being scared off .... Nah!! Never going to happen ... however
    He might Strategically Withdraw from a Situation!!

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.-a Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    Yeap ... and one put forward by several RL Scientists.

    A cult of 12 of 13 needed.-a Too bad they did not know what they were
    doing.

    "A cult of 12 of 13 needed"?? Would THEY all have to deny the existence
    of JodieDoctor??

    Or did 'they' not count 'The War Doctor'??

    Red Card!


    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !

    THAT High!!
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 17 18:34:47 2026
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    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not
    as accurate as view it.


    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been
    the Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the evolution
    of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue with Leela.


    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm!
    Interesting concept.


    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so even if it
    formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't the one in our
    Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it wouldn't be possible
    to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system because the 5th planet is
    still inside a time loop. One more reason why Chibnall's degenerate woke
    shit is not canon since the universe has still not been taken over by
    the Fendahl.

    A cult of 12 of 13 needed. Too bad they did not know
    what they were doing.

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 17 14:08:46 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 17 19:59:24 2026
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    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 17 19:54:50 2026
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    In article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not
    as accurate as view it.


    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been
    the Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the evolution
    of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.


    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm!
    Interesting concept.


    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so even if it
    formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't the one in our
    Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it wouldn't be possible
    to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system because the 5th planet is
    still inside a time loop. One more reason why Chibnall's degenerate woke >shit is not canon since the universe has still not been taken over by
    the Fendahl.


    debate time. The Fendahl's Planet is the asteroid bealt.

    Why else Did the Doctor mention Mars?

    A cult of 12 of 13 needed. Too bad they did not know
    what they were doing.

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !


    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 17 19:55:26 2026
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    In article <MPG.4473ce3a76d6d052989eb6@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    And the Doctor mentions the Fendahl wiping out Mars on the way.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 17 19:56:07 2026
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    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 09:25:38 2026
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    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.
    --
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:00:50 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might
    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar
    System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:21:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:56:42 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where
    it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time
    Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he
    slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore
    this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the
    Time Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and
    carry the Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:08:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:09:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:11:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ueo0k$2dd28$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate
    their joy of child sexual molestation coverup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might
    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.

    Time lopp RTD and CC! Toss them into a supernova.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:12:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10uep82$2do59$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Forced to agree with Da there.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:19:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10uer9d$2ebnu$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where
    it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time
    Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he
    slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore
    this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the
    Time Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and
    carry the Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >approx 680 year to get here.

    Spot on!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:26:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.
    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that. LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about

    Use above script for your defense.


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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 09:55:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:14:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that. LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:26:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of
    what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the
    TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially
    given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:39:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <MPG.4474e4509bd68668989ebb@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    That is the way I view it.

    No way the Fendahl could be from outside the Slar System.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:50:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about?
    DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy >> reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one. >>
    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that. >> LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get >> back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:52:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 18:07:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of
    what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the
    TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially
    given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research. >>
    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 18:23:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>>>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>>>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy >>> reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one. >>>
    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get >>> back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was
    referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't
    have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 18:31:25 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 14:09:01 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!


    That's a good case. I concede the point.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:16:10 2026
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    The True Doctor wrote:

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?

    Well, I do... I think! However, I have given up wasting my time
    trying to discuss something sensible with somebody suffering
    from a mental retardation... on day release from a psych ward.

    It's like banging your head against a wall, over and over again.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:40:33 2026
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    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 22:43:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    -awith Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.-a Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.
    --
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 17:51:30 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name. Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't
    necessarily the Solar system... but most people would probably say "star system" for others.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:36:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said." >>>
    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the
    TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:40:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>>>>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible >interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy >>>> reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one. >>>>
    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a >circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get >>>> back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was
    referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:41:50 2026
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    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>>>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>>>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>>>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>>>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:42:46 2026
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    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!


    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:43:11 2026
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    In article <xn0ppxkaiivajj1000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?

    Well, I do... I think! However, I have given up wasting my time
    trying to discuss something sensible with somebody suffering
    from a mental retardation... on day release from a psych ward.

    It's like banging your head against a wall, over and over again.

    That describes Idlehands.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:43:56 2026
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    In article <xn0ppxkw5iw5tea002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    The explain the asteroid belt


    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...


    Yes just that you misspelled God.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:45:21 2026
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    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    -awith Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.-a Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar
    System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.


    The Sun is a star.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:45:44 2026
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    In article <MPG.447553e946a38908989ec0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name. Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't >necessarily the Solar system... but most people would probably say "star >system" for others.


    Spot on correct.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:12:29 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said." >>>>
    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay
    papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how
    orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn
    some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170 million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the
    distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:16:21 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    -awith Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.-a Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.


    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot?

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:28:33 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>>>>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>>>>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>>>>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>>>>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no
    way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why
    would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:30:02 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 03:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0ppxkw5iw5tea002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    The explain the asteroid belt


    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...


    Yes just that you misspelled God.

    No he didn't. He mistranslated the Hebrew word Elohim which means THE
    GODS, plural.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:40:55 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>>>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible
    interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>>>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of
    Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit equidistant from each other.

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>>>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a
    circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >>>> referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't
    have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and
    made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form
    a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:43:15 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>

    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating
    back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got
    angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet
    by placing it inside a time loop.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:48:24 2026
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    In article <10ugnvf$30ig4$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>>>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said." >>>>>
    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>>>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the >research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >>>>> O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay >papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how >orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn >some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170 >million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the >distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!


    He said 5th Planet. Did he explicit say which Galaxy?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:49:05 2026
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    In article <10ugo6m$30ig4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as >>>>>> accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the >>>>>> Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue >>>>>> -awith Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.-a Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.


    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot?


    The point about Sol.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.






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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:51:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>>>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>>>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last >>> 12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no
    way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet >outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why
    would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours.


    From the script

    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and dissipated slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate lifeform that came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into something suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:51:43 2026
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    In article <10ugp0b$30okn$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0ppxkw5iw5tea002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    The explain the asteroid belt


    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...


    Yes just that you misspelled God.

    No he didn't. He mistranslated the Hebrew word Elohim which means THE
    GODS, plural.
    i

    El'ohim.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:53:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 05:48, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugnvf$30ig4$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't >>>>>>> actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>>>>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>>>>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the
    research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >>>>>> O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay
    papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how
    orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn
    some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170
    million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the
    distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!


    He said 5th Planet. Did he explicit say which Galaxy?

    He explicitly said in the same sentence that he was referring to an
    event in his own people's mythology, therefore he is referring to the
    solar system that Gallifrey is in.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:56:48 2026
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    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length
    of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>>>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible
    interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    :-)

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>>>>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>> Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit >equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.




    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. >>>>>> That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a
    circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord
    could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>>>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >>>>> referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >>> have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and >made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form
    a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:00:46 2026
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    In article <10ugpp4$30u25$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>

    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating
    back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got
    angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet
    by placing it inside a time loop.



    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build a spacecraft.
    How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. That could be a race memory. LEELA: Race memory?

    As for the angry, he should be grateful the
    Time Lords are protecting the universe.

    --
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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:01:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <10ugqc5$3130p$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:48, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugnvf$30ig4$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't >>>>>>>> actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>>>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of
    what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>>>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>>>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially
    given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>>>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the
    research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >>>>>>> O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay
    papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how
    orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn >>> some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170
    million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the
    distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!


    He said 5th Planet. Did he explicit say which Galaxy?

    He explicitly said in the same sentence that he was referring to an
    event in his own people's mythology, therefore he is referring to the
    solar system that Gallifrey is in.


    Yes mythology. But from where?

    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:05:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 05:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable. >>>>>>>>>>
    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length
    of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible
    interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to >>>> his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    :-)

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about?
    DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>>>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>> Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of
    Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    No it isn't. Do you think Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit
    equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?


    Min and max distances of what?

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    Start point GALLIFREY'S SUN!



    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile >>>>>>> of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. >>>>>>> That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to >>>>>>> the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do. >>>>>>> All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)

    Do you see any green swirling haze like that anywhere between Mars and
    Jupiter in the Earth's solar system? NO! There isn't any.

    That's because the time loop is NOT in Earth's solar system. It's in Gallifrey's solar system.
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a >>>> circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord
    could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about >>>>>>>

    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >>>>>> referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it, >>>> so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >>>> have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and
    made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form
    a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:09:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 06:00, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpp4$30u25$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>> Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>>

    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating
    back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got
    angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet
    by placing it inside a time loop.



    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build a spacecraft.
    How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak of astral projection,
    travelling psychically to different planets. That could be a race memory. LEELA: Race memory?

    And your point is what? That you know almost nothing about astronomy and
    have virtually no ability whatsoever in English comprehension?

    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that. Book yourself an
    adult education course and learn English Language.

    As for the angry, he should be grateful the
    Time Lords are protecting the universe.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:10:55 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 05:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugo6m$30ig4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as >>>>>>> accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the >>>>>>> Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue >>>>>>> -awith Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.-a Hmm! Interesting >>>>>>> concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't >>>>>> the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>>>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway. >>>>

    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot?


    The point about Sol.


    Which is? Were you in remedial class at school?
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:21:46 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't> necessarily the Solar
    system... but most people would probably say "star
    system" for others.


    <<AI Overview solar system/-es+O-el+O -is+-st+-m/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to
    it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids,
    comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic neighborhoodrCothe Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:24:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 05:51, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this >>>>>>>> precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last >>>> 12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of >>>> the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no
    way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet
    outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why
    would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours.


    From the script


    Answer my questions. Is English your first language? What language is?

    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and dissipated
    slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate lifeform that
    came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into something
    suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.
    So what? What is your point?

    Why the fuck am I talking to a pirmative AI chat both from the 1980s.
    --
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